[RealJustme]

4 Dead, 21 Wounded in Weekend Violence. Four people were shot in two seperate shootings Sunday afternoon on the city's South Side as weekend gun violence leaves four men dead and at least 21 people injured across Chicago.

Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the Country but yet has the highest gun violence and is the city with the lowest prosecution rate on violent criminals. Many gang members consider Chicago to be a safe haven and have gained control of certain parts of the city, the police won't even respond to some areas without a full SWAT backup.
One police officer explained that the gang members are often put back on the streets before he can complete the arrest and booking paper work.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/4- ... z2QXsfivFO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BilboBagend]

I heard that a guy was killed in his own house even though guns were banned in his house. WTF. How could that happen?

ROFLMAOAY

[RealJustme]

I heard that a guy was killed in his own house even though guns were banned in his house. WTF. How could that happen?

Excellent point, gun control just removes guns from legal gun owners. All four of those guys who broke into that man's house were know criminals and were banned from having weapons, look how well that worked out. Thank God the man lived in a city where they didn't ban guns for non-criminals.

[BilboBagend]

Actual excellent point: you post is just a bunch of bullshit.

I wonder how it would work if we just banned nuclear weapons in one country? OH, you still don't/won't get it.

No surprise there.

[RealJustme]

I wonder how it would work if we just banned nuclear weapons in one country?

Obama is trying to disarm America by shredding our nukes, once he does, all of America will be defenseless as a law abiding citizen living in Chicago.

[BilboBagend]

More obvious pure fringe delusional bullshit

[brandon]

Care to comment on why this violence is happening Bilbo?

I used to believe it was a racist generational cycle of socioeconomic victimization and lack of educational opportunities.

I don't believe that anymore.

[BilboBagend]

There are a great many mentally ill people in this world. Most undiagnosed, e.g. liar leroy, justupid, brandon, et al.

[RealJustme]

There are a great many mentally ill people in this world. Most undiagnosed,

Since were talking about murders in Chicago, your statement is racist considering most live in urban areas of liberal cities and are 10 times more likely to be black.

[elklindo69]

OK let's see.

Where can the guns be coming from?

Perhaps Wisconsin or Kentucky?

The two states with the most non existent gun laws????

[Leroy]

OK let's see.

Where can the guns be coming from?

Perhaps Wisconsin or Kentucky?

The two states with the most non existent gun laws????

HA HA HA - yea, blame the guns on anyone except the criminals that already have them. Do you really believe that most of the guns used by criminals inside that state come from outside it? You can't really be that stupid, right?

[elklindo69]

OK let's see.

Where can the guns be coming from?

Perhaps Wisconsin or Kentucky?

The two states with the most non existent gun laws????

HA HA HA - yea, blame the guns on anyone except the criminals that already have them. Do you really believe that most of the guns used by criminals inside that state come from outside it? You can't really be that stupid, right?

Arms Trafficking???

Gun show loopholes???

That shit don't happen............

STOOOOPID

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[RealJustme]

Why do liberals continue to cuddle those who shot others? Shooting another person during a commission of a crime should be banned.

[brandon]

Mr. PHD is a joke.

Good thread.

:lol:

[BilboBagend]

Yes, I can see it from your perspective brandon. It's a pathetic, ignorant, and dishonest perspective, but I can see it.

[Leroy]

OK let's see.

Where can the guns be coming from?

Perhaps Wisconsin or Kentucky?

The two states with the most non existent gun laws????

HA HA HA - yea, blame the guns on anyone except the criminals that already have them. Do you really believe that most of the guns used by criminals inside that state come from outside it? You can't really be that stupid, right?

Arms Trafficking???

Gun show loopholes???

That shit don't happen............

STOOOOPID

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Prove what you claim is the major source of guns used in crimes - you can do it, come on, step up to the plate, show what you claim?

[BilboBagend]

I wonder how much the NRA imposed law preventing collection of gun data has something to do with a little bit of fuzziness in any data?

No, I don't wonder. It's amazing how these malevolent liars love to manipulate both data and availability of data. I wonder why? again, I don't really wonder. It's a case of if you can't support your case on the merits you simply lie cheat steal and manipulate to get your way by preventing everything including simple common sense and any real observations. Just like the current nation wide Republican leadership attacks on abortion, birth control, sex, freedom, liberty, and choice. The Republican stance is evil and unpopular so you make the attack from behind like the cowards you are.

Why not support universal background checks or registration? Why BECAUSE we would be better able to track gun crimes and guns, leading to reduced gun crimes. It's that simple. Preserving the right to bullying people with guns and feel like a big man who will attack all decent society and any rational government. It's about the tiny egos of the anti-government fear filled paranoids and the low intelligence fear filled people who listen to them.

[RealJustme]

Why not support universal background checks or registration? Why BECAUSE we would be better able to track gun crimes and guns, leading to reduced gun crimes. It's that simple

Do you think any of the 1000's of gun murders in Chicago, Philly, D.C. or Detroit would register their guns if a law required them to do it? What needs to happen is politicians need to clean those cities of their scum, lock them up and throw the keys away when a felon is caught with a gun or using a gun. This would give the citizens I those cities, especially the young people, a chance to escape their thug cultures. That's the problem not guns.

[Leroy]

Why not support universal background checks or registration? Why BECAUSE we would be better able to track gun crimes and guns, leading to reduced gun crimes.

Please, in great detail, explain how:

Universal Background Checks and/or Registration reduces gun crimes in the USA?

[BilboBagend]

You intentionally or stupidly miss the point, just as you dishonestly want to miss the point. The harder you make it for criminals and sick people to get guns, the fewer who will have guns. You keep harping on stupid dishonest absolutes. Why? Only you may really know, but being stupid and dishonest is a good guess. The less destructive the power of the weapons that are available to the general public, the less destructive such crimes will be. Will laws totally eliminate mass crimes? No, never. But so what. We have all sorts of laws and I for one will not support a lawless society. Why do you support a lawless society? I know of no law that has absolute effect over all crimes that it covers. Some stupid laws have no effect at all and cost society dearly in both money and lives, such as the drug laws. Drug laws are among the most destructive and costly laws ever implemented, along with all morality laws demanded by the bully conservative element in our society. Yet, they persist because of bully false moralists and bully weak politicians.

Gun laws have at least a real obvious possibility of reducing harm in our society, but not to those who intentionally delude themselves or support the manufacturers in making obscene profits. Obscene in so many ways.

[Leroy]

You intentionally or stupidly miss the point, just as you dishonestly want to miss the point. The harder you make it for criminals and sick people to get guns, the fewer who will have guns.

Except we've already seen that if the current laws were followed, the current rules/regulations on reporting unstable persons had been followed, that the mass killings in the last 5+ years (all by Democrats) would not have taken place.

So, again:

Please, in great detail, explain how:

Universal Background Checks and/or Registration reduces gun crimes in the USA?

[RealJustme]

Universal Background Checks and/or Registration reduces gun crimes in the USA?

Consider that criminals get their guns by stealing them or buying them from someone else who has stolen them. Under the new Law a gun that's registered can't be fired in a criminal act, when it senses something is wrong, the registered gun goes in shut down mode. Plus once the Law is passed that guns "must be registered" all those unregistered and stolen guns will self destruct, but only if Republicans allow that provision to be written into the Law.

If the Law doesn't work as planned it will be the Republicans' fault therefore new Laws will need to be written to support the prior Laws until we get right...or I should say left.