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#20912
Homeland security is buying 1.6 billions rounds of ammo, enough to fight 20 Iraqi wars, Homeland Security just purchased 2,700 Armored Attack Vehicles, some with chemical weapons deployment abilities. 7,000 fully automatic assault weapons in 2012 and 25,000 "blue" colored bullet proof vests. Homeland Security just purchased 7 buildings able to house over 10,000 people within blocks of the UN building in New York.

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Don't be surprised if police wearing blue helmets with foreign accents start showing up on our streets.
#20952
Is Egypt following Obama's path or is Obama following Egypt's path. Over the last 4 years Obama has dumped billions into building up Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and our Homeland Security controlled by leaders who's only qualifications are they will do what ever Obama tells them to do.

Egypt's Homeland Security funded by Obama is presently in the process of rounding up and torturing and killing their enemies in the Country "Christians" who they call extremists and a threat to the Muslim Brotherhood's control. Obama's staff and spokesperson is more and more calling conservatives, especially Tea Party members "extremists, they've bought up the ammo and trying to take our weapons...right out of Hitler's playbook before they started rounding up Jews.
Egyptian mosques turned into house of torture for Christians after Muslim Brotherhood protest

Islamic hard-liners stormed a mosque in suburban Cairo, turning it into torture chamber for Christians who had been demonstrating against the ruling Muslim Brotherhood in the latest case of violent persecution that experts fear will only get worse.

Such stories have become increasingly common as tensions between Egypt’s Muslims and Copts mount, but in the latest case, mosque officials corroborated much of the account and even filed a police report. Demonstrators, some of whom were Muslim, say they were taken from the Muslim Brotherhood headquarters in suburban Cairo to a nearby mosque on Friday and tortured for hours by hard-line militia members who were better equipped with modern weapon than the Egyptian Army.

The latest crackdown is further confirmation that the Muslim Brotherhood’s most hard-line elements are consolidating control in Egypt, according to Shaul Gabbay, a professor of international studies at the University of Denver.

“It will only get worse,” said Gabbay. “This has been a longstanding conflict, but now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in power, it is moving forward to implement its ideology – which is that Christians are supposed to become Muslims.

“There is no longer anything to hold them back,” he continued. “The floodgates are open.”


#20971
Obama is following in the same steps as the great Liberal/Progressive "Hitler" and he's doing it openly - which is why the liberals/progressives in the USA can't see it - they can't see anything right before them, they are blind fools.
Hitler was at one time the world's greatest orator, teen age girls would faint when he spoke, he sent goose bumps up the legs of the media, his greatest saying was "we must move forward, forward, forward". He talked of taking from the rich and giving to the poor to undo the past injustices. Older and wiser Germans knew the changes he talked of weren't good for the Country but he was a freight train that ignored the laws, the first thing he did was ban private owned weapons (for their safety), the second thing he did was formed a powerful private Army" Sturmabteilung" ("Assault Division") they were known as brown shirts who reported directly to Hitler and were better armed than the military. Germany's version of the Constitution was ignored and those who questioned his authority were at first ridiculed then silenced through force. Hitler then appointed corrupt loyalist to all the highest positions and soon had control over the whole Country...then he showed his real colors by rounding up and burning those he didn't like.
#21012
brandon wrote:Imagine if those UN forces were Mexicans or Muslims.
UN forces are largely ineffective and worthless at anything unless they are run/managed and backed by our troops. In most countries they are the same as any black-market thieves, they don't stop genocide, they don't stop rapes right in front of them, they don't fight anyone to any real extent.

The real threat from the UN is that their old anti-gun treaty demands that all members collect data on their citizens ownership of guns/ammo and provide it to the UN so that any member country/group can get it - and that's what has kept most countries afraid of invading the USA, they think we have more guns/ammo than our military and they fear us as an armed citizenry. Just imagine if they, an invading country, backed with UN gun information on every gun/ammo in the USA, knew exactly where to focus their resources to destroy the largest pockets of resistance and to make large sweeps picking up people with weapons - or, even worse, democrats/Obama doing the same to us.
#21013
The militarization of the police has been going on for decades.

I've seen NYPD by the financial district, wearing kevlar helmets and toting around sub machine guns?

I'm not sure what the deal is? Perhaps they should be conducting investigations instead of standing around doing nothing but wasting tax payer dollars...
#21018
Is about about to turn Homeland Security over to the UN?
I for one would welcome oversight of our cops by UN police. They could then report to the world what minorities have to go through on a daily basis, hopefully they would better arm them than our cops so that they could step in when our cops get out of control. Turning homeland security over the UN would be a good thing for the oppressed.
#21033
Freedman wrote:
Is about about to turn Homeland Security over to the UN?
I for one would welcome oversight of our cops by UN police. They could then report to the world what minorities have to go through on a daily basis, hopefully they would better arm them than our cops so that they could step in when our cops get out of control. Turning homeland security over the UN would be a good thing for the oppressed.
Freedman, you're such a moron - you do know that the UN Police just watch, they don't defend the citizens, and if they are fired on my any forces, they run away.

The oppressed are not who you claim, unless you're claiming that Blacks and Black leaders are oppressing blacks. Blacks are only held down/back by their own people, their own leaders, and it's because your own people don't want you to make better of yourself then they are.
#21142
Vj2 wrote:Hitler was never a liberal. Take your revisionist history elsewhere where people don't have a clue

I don't care if he was or not but he wasn't.
Hitler preached liberal/progressive ideals in order to gain power, he used liberals/progressives to destroy a country from within, then he turned on the Unions and many of the liberals/progressives - he was far more liberal than anything else.
#21157
RealJustme wrote:
So the beer hall putsch and his ravings in mien kampf with regard to exterminating Jews are evidence of liberalism?
A very good analogy of what Obama is doing with his liberal agenda!
Liberals want all the power in their own hands, oppressing and suppressing the people. Liberals promise the people everything and deliver nothing except failure. Liberals claim they are tolerant of everyone and everything, but they show that they are intolerant of anyone that doesn't follow their ideals. Liberals claim they are doing what's best for the people, the little man, but in reality, they count on the little man not seeing how much harm they bring to the little man until it's far too late.

Liberals in the USA are "Fascists" - they claim Nationalism over Individualism, but the "Nationalism" is completely controlled by a very few. They seek to unify the Nation by oppression and subjugation.

Hitler followed all of the things I've just written.
#21158
Leroy wrote:
RealJustme wrote:
So the beer hall putsch and his ravings in mien kampf with regard to exterminating Jews are evidence of liberalism?
A very good analogy of what Obama is doing with his liberal agenda!
Liberals want all the power in their own hands, oppressing and suppressing the people. Liberals promise the people everything and deliver nothing except failure. Liberals claim they are tolerant of everyone and everything, but they show that they are intolerant of anyone that doesn't follow their ideals. Liberals claim they are doing what's best for the people, the little man, but in reality, they count on the little man not seeing how much harm they bring to the little man until it's far too late.

Liberals in the USA are "Fascists" - they claim Nationalism over Individualism, but the "Nationalism" is completely controlled by a very few. They seek to unify the Nation by oppression and subjugation.


Go read more history
Hitler followed all of the things I've just written.
#21190
So the beer hall putsch and his ravings in mien kampf with regard to exterminating Jews are evidence of liberalism?
Yes Vj , to Leroy it is. It's his latest twist. I've recently learned from him that regardless of any individual's or group's philosophy or motivations behind any act they are to be considered "liberals" .

I learned that the 911 hijackers were not conservative religious extremists. Neither was Hitler, the Norway shooter and bomber, the holocaust museum shooter, Eric Rudolph, etc. ,,he even corrected my belief that Tim McVeigh was a right winger.

Search through his posts and see, fascism and acts of violence, intolerance and bigotry can only be perpetrated by "liberals".

There is no argument because anyone who is politically conservative or to the right simply does not and has not behaved liked that.

:oops:
#21191
You seem to be mistaken and not able to look at the difference between what happens in the USA or outside it.

Terrorists, when looked at from a US perspective are mostly liberals/progressives, they are intolerant, they hate first, they want change, they want to change it back, and that's change no matter how you look at it. They can't accept true freedom or true tolerance, and that's a liberal/progressive (in the USA) problem.

In other locations, the definition of liberal/conservative have differing meanings, but, since I'm here in the USA, and so are most people on this board, I'll stick with the US perceptions and ideals of Liberal / Conservative.

Conservatives are tolerant of changes, most of them, and even embrace them where they make sense - like removing violence as a means of change.

Liberals are intolerant, they can't accept anyone that disagrees with them - they are violent and militant about it.

Following these two physical examples, as we've seen for a decade, we can see that Hitler as well as the Islamic Terrorists were Liberals - they could not accept others beliefs and chose to not tolerate them.
#21273
I was on this bb before Leroy. I don't think freedman to be much different than Leroy. Both locked in a one way mindset and guilty of overarching generalizations about their political opponents across the aisle ( which if you think about imeans that they really aren't that far apart).

Justme you wanna be an over archer? Go ahead. Join your club
#21318
Leroy wrote:
Vj2 wrote:You poor deluded sap :lol:
How about you prove me wrong, but we both know you can't and won't.
You prove yourself wrong by your ever increasing milieu of pap, go for it buddy. Tolerant, thoughtful individuals see you for your tunnel visioned mindset. It's ok. Jesus still loves you, as does Allah and Yaweh, Bhudda, Mother Earth, and the intergalactic god
#21319
Vj2 wrote:
Leroy wrote:
Vj2 wrote:You poor deluded sap :lol:
How about you prove me wrong, but we both know you can't and won't.
You prove yourself wrong by your ever increasing milieu of pap, go for it buddy. Tolerant, thoughtful individuals see you for your tunnel visioned mindset. It's ok. Jesus still loves you, as does Allah and Yaweh, Bhudda, Mother Earth, and the intergalactic god
that's what I thought, you don't even believe your own BS enough to try and prove me wrong - because you know I'm absolutely right. I provided a complete explanation, taking my time to explain it to you/the board - and all you've got in response is a childish reply and nothing else. Typical.
#21344
Drumroll please.i edited my previous reply in that I knew you'd say what you have (should have included it). You've not provided a thoughtful explanation to the board. You've explained ,via your opinion how you've twisted the meaning of liberal ETC to dovetail with your worldview and you have the gall to pontificate on behalf of the people of America, as if you speak for the general populace. I promise I will give a thorough rebuttal of your farcical attempt of proof. But proof begets an agreement of definitions from which to have a discussion. You refer to me as childish. I don't go around calling people "dildo" etc as you do. Now who's being childish? I'll have time by Friday and will do so. It's gonna be long, with references to support my position . Something I know that you're not familiar with. It's how responsible individuals have a discussion. Not the ad hominem attacks this board has been reduced to. See you then :lol:
#21355
Vj2 wrote:Drumroll please.i edited my previous reply in that I knew you'd say what you have (should have included it). You've not provided a thoughtful explanation to the board. You've explained ,via your opinion how you've twisted the meaning of liberal ETC to dovetail with your worldview and you have the gall to pontificate on behalf of the people of America, as if you speak for the general populace. I promise I will give a thorough rebuttal of your farcical attempt of proof. But proof begets an agreement of definitions from which to have a discussion. You refer to me as childish. I don't go around calling people "dildo" etc as you do. Now who's being childish? I'll have time by Friday and will do so. It's gonna be long, with references to support my position . Something I know that you're not familiar with. It's how responsible individuals have a discussion. Not the ad hominem attacks this board has been reduced to. See you then :lol:
That's what I thought, more of your misdirections and failure to prove me wrong.

You complain about, to further your misdirection, about me calling Bilbo - Dildo, but you don't complain about him calling me names. In case you've not noticed, I've not twisted your Nickname at all, but don't let that hit you in the ass as you run away from proving me wrong.

You know that Liberal/Progressive is not the same in the USA as it is in many parts of the world, and liberal/progressive in the USA means intolerant, fascist, haters, inciters to violence.

Is there a bigger cuck piece of shit?

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