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#18810
This will add billions of costs to the Defense budget, now these gay "lovers' qualifty for medical and other perks, as if he/her were married to their gay lover. They also get military spouse ID cards allowing them access to military bases and what ever they have to offer. Here's the kicker, it only applies to "gay" lovers, not straight lovers. So a male troop dating a female doesn't qualify but if he's dating a male they get the benefits.
Outgoing DOD boss Panetta extends benefits to same-sex partners of gay troops.

Departing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta extended Monday a list of benefits — all previously denied by the Pentagon — to the same-sex spouses of service members as well as to the unmarried partners of gay troops.

The perks, automatically available to heterosexual military spouses, will include hospital child care services, hospital visits, and the issuing of military ID cards, which will give same-sex spouses and partners access to on-base commissaries, movie theaters and gyms.
Unless they now offer the same benefits to straight boyfriends and girlfriends of troops there needs to be a class action suit.
#19033
Since they are not legally married, what is the legal bond that would give them benefits vs. a M/F that are just friends without any legal bond also? Seems to me that the morons didn't think this one through, but that's par for the Obama Administration.
#19041
BilboBagend wrote:Our usual two fear filled bigots hate all equity in our relationships.

Too bad, eqiuality and justice will prevail despite the laws of bigots and racists.
Again, you've failed to address how spouses of same sex couples will be identified when most of them have no legal marriage proof.

Again, it would seem that if proof is not needed, then M/F couples, not married legally, should be able to get the same benefit - unless you're so intolerant that you don't believe that a M/F unmarried couple could have the same love as a gay unmarried couple?
#19061
My understanding was that when the "don't ask don't tell" policy was rescinded, same sex couples were then able to apply for domestic partnership benefits, that heterosexual couples were already entitled to...

So now same sex and heterosexual couples will be receiving the same benefits, are they not???
#19125
No, DOMA is still in the way of equal benefits, even for legally married same sex couples. The same sex spouse of a KIA soldier will NOT get any benefits, nor will their children.
Niether do the girlfriends of male soldiers. This change by Obama allows boyfriends of male soldiers to collect benefits that are denied girlfriends of male soldiers.
#19130
RealJustme wrote:
No, DOMA is still in the way of equal benefits, even for legally married same sex couples. The same sex spouse of a KIA soldier will NOT get any benefits, nor will their children.
Niether do the girlfriends of male soldiers. This change by Obama allows boyfriends of male soldiers to collect benefits that are denied girlfriends of male soldiers.
It's more accurate to say, the girlfriends of male soldiers don't get the benefits that wives of male soldiers.

And domestic partners, same sex or opposite sex have identical benefits.
#19153
BilboBagend wrote:More dishonest hate filled lies from the usual two liars, justupid and liar leroy.
And yet you can't answer the simple question put forth by this ill thought-out plan - how to gays prove they are couples, like Married M/F couples, and not just SignificantOther Friend (as in BB Friend, GG Friend)?

Since there is no documentation to prove legal couple status, how can we be sure that the claimed "partner" is the same status as a married spouse?
#19166
Since there is no documentation to prove legal couple status, how can we be sure that the claimed "partner" is the same status as a married spouse?
The gay boyfriend will sue if he doesn't receive special benefits because it's as the is written gays' are to receive the benefits based upon nothing more than their word they're a couple. In the mean time the 98% with straight partners who aren't married to them will be denied these special rights given to gays.
#19167
I think I've figured it out:

Unmarried Hetero Couples
Couple 1 - M/F (M being Service Member)
Couple 2 - M/F (F being Service Member)

So, they post ads on Craigslist and ask for others that need benefits, then Couple 1 F and Couple 2 F claim to be gay, and then Couple 1 M and Couple 2 M claim to be gay, then both dating couples can get free medical coverage for their claimed significant other.

While this would be completely dishonest, you know that some smart couples will figure this out and do it, and, because of the ill-thought-out gay bullshit, they will get away with it - but, if they get caught, only the Hetero Military members will be punished, even though the Gay unmarried couple isn't really any different as far as the law in concerned.
#19179
All this sequence if events reveals is the dishonesty, dishonor, and vindictive nature of a man who luckily never became President and his buddies in the Senate.

There have been absolutely no questions relevant to the qualifications of the candidate or any relevant to the position under question. All pure political bullshit and personal vindictive bullshit, nothing more. McCain is pissed NOT because of statements made against the Republican establishment, but because his favorite war mongering agenda was undermined.


It's really great than McCain never became President. We would be at war all around the world and racking up real incredible debt by destroying the world and huge capital value.

Is there a bigger cuck piece of shit?

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