[johnforbes]

G Floyd autopsy report "No life-threatening injuries identified" but 11 mg Fentanyl in system...

[Clownkicker]

It's incredible that johnforbes would post the decisive evidence that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's unnecessary death by refusing to allow medical care from a trained medical first responder, all while Chauvin restrained and compressed Floyd's breathing with a knee to his back for over nine minutes, causing Floyd's heart and lungs to stop functioning despite no other life threatening injuries.

Thank you, johnny. It's good to see that the homicide conviction of Chauvin was a correct verdict.

[Clownkicker]

By the way, johnforbes lied in his opening post, intentionally misquoting the actual two-year-old autopsy findings of "11 nanograms/mL" while pretending this is new information, which it's not. The jury heard this evidence and still convicted Chauvin of homicide.

As to johnny's childish lie about Floyd having "11 mg Fentanyl in system", since just 2 mg of Fentanyl in one's system is enough to kill someone, it it really stupid to pretend that Floyd could have been on his feet and walking around with 11 mg in his system as johnfibs pretends.

But johnforbes didn't bother to read the actual autopsy report. He doesn't even understand what a "primary source" is. He just obediently regurgitates the unsubstantiated lies his handlers slop into his trough each morning.

[johnforbes]

No, my quote was accurate from the report posted online.

There was even more of some other Fentanyl substance in his system.

Should he have been peacefully arrested? Yes, but a murder?

[Clownkicker]

"No, my quote was accurate from the report posted online."-johnfibs

No, it was only an accurate reproduction of the dishonest propaganda you consumed from your partisan handlers who once again easily duped you.

Unfortunately, it is NOT an accurate reproduction of the medical examiner's report. You simply made it up.


"Should he have been peacefully arrested? Yes, but a murder?"-johnflubs

Yes, when a suspect tells you he can't breath and you leave your knee on his back for over nine minutes, shutting down his heart and lungs, including continuing to keep your knee on the victim for several minutes after he has stopped moving, AND you refuse to let a trained EMT check his vitals and resuscitate him, YES, that's a MURDER, dummy.

But don't take my word for it. Take the word of the judge, jury, and medical examiner, all of whom know a whole lot more about it than you do.

[johnforbes]

No, it was accurate, as of course is always the case with semper-careful Forbes.

[Clownkicker]

If only johnfibs could post even a shred of evidence to support any of his lies.

But he won't because he can't, as always.

Pathological liars never can.

[johnforbes]

Interestingly, even usually wimpy McCarthy was socking it to pathological liar Schiff.

Of course, to Clowntroller, Schiff is his patron saint...

[Clownkicker]

So you DON'T have any evidence to support your childish partisan lies, eh, johnny? All you have is more of your off-topic diversions.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[johnforbes]

It isn't my fault that they released that autopsy report.

It said what it said, and -- as said above -- it said what I said it said, so no more need be said.

Except, of course, for Clown to apologize.

[Clownkicker]

It isn't my fault that johnforbes is a moron who can't read plain English, but the the autopsy DID NOT say that Floyd had 11 milligrams of fentanyl in his system. johnforbes simply made it up.

What the medical examiner's report actually said is that Floyd had 11 NANOGRAMS per mL of fentanyl in his system, which is nowhere near the absurd dosage johnforbes is saying left Floyd on his feet and walking around.

In other words, Floyd had roughly .065 mg fentanyl in his system, not the rediculous 11 mg that johnforbes is doubling down on because he has no evidence to support his nonsense. He can't produce a single source that says Floyd had 11 mg of fentanyl in his system.

Yes, medical examiner's report said what it said, but what good does that do johnforbes when apparently he cannot read, and thus he can't reproduce what the report actually said, the way I did. This thread further attests to johnny's intellectual impotence.

[johnforbes]

To clarify my role on this fine forum, I am not now -- nor have ever been -- the medical examiner here.

Nor in the area where the person in question met his untimely demise.

The report said what it said, and I said what it said.

As Omar Khayyam indicated:

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it."

[Clownkicker]

"The report said what it said, and I said what it said."-johnflubs

Yes, the fake 'report' you read was a made up partisan lie from your handlers, which you then passed on without question as a dutiful tool of your handlers.

Believe it or not, that does not make you "right" somehow. It only makes you a fool.

Unlike your bullshit, what I quoted to you (11 nanograms per mL) was from the actual medical examiner's report. Do the math.

You're welcome (and wrong) as always, dummy. Merely repeating the admission that you were duped once again is not an argument against what I posted.

[johnforbes]

No life-threatening injuries, those were the words.

[brandon]

A snippet from the original Hennepin County autopsy report. Not certain if this is original source enough or not. Its not hard to find.

George Floyd Autopsy (FULL REPORT)

Description:"46-year-old man who became unresponsive while being restrained by law enforcement officers; he received emergency medical care in the field and subsequently in the Hennepin HealthCare (HHC)…
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HENNEPIN COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER’S OFFICE AUTOPSY REPORT
ME NO.:
20-3700
CASE TITLE:
CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION
DECEASED:
George Floyd aka Floyd Perry
SEX:
M
AGE:
46
DATE AND HOUR OF DEATH:
5-25-20; 9:25 p.m.
DATE AND HOUR OF AUTOPSY:
5-26-20; 9:25 a.m.
PATHOLOGIST:
Andrew M. Baker, M.D.
FINAL DIAGNOSES:

46-year-old man who became unresponsive while being restrained by law enforcement officers; he received emergency medical care in the field and subsequently in the Hennepin HealthCare (HHC) Emergency Department, but could not be resuscitated. I.

Blunt force injuries A.

Cutaneous blunt force injuries of the forehead, face, and upper lip B.

Mucosal injuries of the lips C.

Cutaneous blunt force injuries of the shoulders, hands, elbows, and legs D.

Patterned contusions (in some areas abraded) of the wrists, consistent with restraints (handcuffs) II.

Natural diseases A.

Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe B.

Hypertensive heart disease 1.

Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular dilatation 2.

Clinical history of hypertension C.

Left pelvic tumor (incidental, see microscopic description)
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George Floyd 20-3700 Page 2 III.

No life-threatening injuries identified A.

No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae B.

No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures C.

No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries D.

No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries E.

Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma IV.

Viral testing (Minnesota Department of Health, postmortem nasal swab collected 5/26/2020): positive for 2019
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nCoV RNA by PCR (see ‘Comments,’ below) V.

Hemoglobin S quantitation (postmortem femoral blood, HHC Laboratory): 38% (see ‘Comments,’ below) VI.

Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A.

Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens: 1.

Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2.

Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL 3.

4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL 4.

Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL 5.

11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL 6.

Cotinine positive 7.

Caffeine positive B.

Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or acetone C.

Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D.

Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

George Floyd 20-3700 Page 3
Comments
: The finding of sickled-appearing cells in many of the autopsy tissue sections prompted the Hemoglobin S quantitation reported above. This quantitative result is indicative of sickle cell trait. Red blood cells in individuals with sickle cell trait are known to sickle as a postmortem artifact. The decedent’s antemortem peripheral blood smear (made from a complete blood count collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m.) was reviewed by an expert HHC hematopathologist at the Medical Examiner’s request. This review found no evidence of antemortem sickling. The decedent was known to be positive for 2019
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nCoV RNA on 4/3/2020. Since PCR positivity for 2019
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nCoV RNA can persist for weeks after the onset and resolution of clinical disease, the autopsy result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent PCR positivity from previous infection.
6/1/2020
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Andrew M. Baker, M.D.Chief Medical ExaminerSined b: Andrew M. Baker MD

In accordance with HCME policy, this report was reviewed by another board-certified forensic pathologist prior to release.
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George Floyd 20-3700 Page 4
IDENTIFICATION:
Positive identification is confirmed by comparison of antemortem and postmortem fingerprints (Federal Bureau of Investigation).
EXTERNAL EXAMINATION:
When initially examined, the body is in a sealed/locked and properly labeled body bag. Evidentiary paper bags are secured over the hands. The body is that of a normally developed, muscular and adequately nourished appearing, 6 feet 4 inch long, 223 pound male whose appearance is consistent with the reported age of 46 years. Unfixed lividity is present on the posterior dependent surfaces of the body, except in areas exposed to pressure. Rigor mortis is established in all of the major muscle groups, relenting with modest pressure. The temperature is somewhat cool following refrigeration. The scalp is covered with closely cropped black hair in a normal distribution, with some early vertex thinning. The irides are brown, and the pupils are round and equal in diameter. The conjunctivae are somewhat injected, but there are no bulbar or palpebral conjunctival petechiae. There are no facial, periorbital, or oral mucosal petechiae. The external auditory canals are free of blood. The lobe of the left ear is remotely pierced once; the ears are otherwise unremarkable. The nares are patent. The nasal and facial bones are stable to palpation. A faint, 2 cm maximum dimension V-shaped scar is near the superior end of the left jawline. The teeth appear native and in good repair. Very short black mustache and beard stubble is in the usual distribution on the face, and a small patch of slightly longer black beard hair is just inferior to the lower lip. The neck is straight, and the trachea is midline. A 0.6 cm diameter circular gray-brown scar is over the middle of the left clavicle. The chest is symmetric. The abdomen is flat. The external genitalia are those of a normal adult male. The testes are descended and free of masses. Pubic hair is present in a normal distribution. The back, buttocks, and anus are unremarkable. The upper and lower extremities are symmetric and free of clubbing, edema, or absence of digits. Six faint, hypopigmented, haphazardly oriented linear scars ranging up to 1.2 cm long are scattered across the dorsum of the right

George Floyd 20-3700 Page 5 forearm. Approximately eight gray-tan foci of healing injuries (scars) ranging up to 0.8 cm maximum dimension are scattered across the dorsum of the right hand. Two similar appearing healing injuries (scars), each 1 cm maximum dimension, are on the anteromedial right wrist. A similar appearing, obliquely oriented 2 cm long linear healing injury (scar) is on the medial right wrist. The skin of the first dorsal webspace on the right hand has a 4.5 cm maximum dimension area of brown hyperpigmentation and gray-tan hyperkeratosis. An 8 cm maximum dimension area of brown hyperpigmentation and gray-tan hyperkeratosis spans the first dorsal webspace on the left hand, and has five superimposed healing linear skin cracks ranging up to 1.2 cm long. Similar gray-tan, scar-like areas are on the dorsum of the left hand (over the left 2
nd
and 3
rd
metacarpophalangeal joints and the web spaces between the fingers) and wrist in areas ranging 0.2 to 2 cm maximum dimension. A 4 cm maximum dimension flat tan scar is on the dorsum of the left hand over the 5th
metacarpal. The nails of the hands are cut or chewed extremely short. A 4 cm maximum dimension horizontally oriented linear brown scar is over the anterior right hip. A 0.5 cm maximum dimension macular brown nevus is over the anterior right hip. Two flat, hyperpigmented patches, 1.2 and 2 cm maximum dimension, flank the left side of the waistline. A 1.5 cm maximum dimension hypopigmented oval scar is over the right knee. Approximately nine haphazardly oriented linear hypopigmented scars ranging up to 2 cm maximum dimension are scattered over and just inferior to the right knee. Approximately nine hyper- and hypopigmented linear and oval scars ranging up to 2 cm maximum dimension are over the right shin. A faint, 1.5 cm maximum dimension hyper- and hypopigmented scar is on the posterolateral left thigh. Five hypopigmented linear scars ranging up to 5 cm maximum dimension are over, just superior to, and just inferolateral to the left knee. A 3 cm maximum dimension area of slight skin darkening associated with hair follicle plugging is on the distal left calf. The nails of the toes are somewhat elongated, markedly thickened, and discolored yellow-brown. The soles of the feet and the posterior heels are somewhat hyperkeratotic and desiccated appearing, particularly on the right.
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TATTOOS:

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A 42 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of an eagle holding a rifle spans the upper chest, from shoulder to shoulder and from the inferior neck to the distal sternum.
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An 11 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of a pair of praying hands is on the epigastric abdomen.
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A 9 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of the name “LAURA” is on the right upper abdomen.
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A 10 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of the name “CISSY” is on the left upper abdomen.
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A 28 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of the name “FLOYD” spans both sides of the abdomen just superior to the umbilicus.
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A 10 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of what appears to be a gravestone with some letters and numbers and the letters “R.I.P.” is on the anterior right forearm.
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A 12 cm maximum dimension monochromatic blue tattoo of two stars and what appears to be the name “Brittney” and the letters “R.I.P.” is on the proximal anterior left forearm.
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A 20 cm maximum dimension patterned monochromatic blue tattoo spans the anterior, lateral, and posterior aspects of the left forearm.
CLOTHING AND PERSONAL EFFECTS:
The following clothing items are received with the body in the body bag, in a hospital patient belongings bag, and examined separate from the body at the start of the postmortem examination:
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Size XXL “Nike” brand blue track pants, extensively cut apart (presumably for medical intervention)
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A black ribbed sleeveless t-shirt (no tag), extensively cut apart (presumably for medical intervention)
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Size 3XL “Starting 5” brand black and gray sweatpants, extensively cut apart (presumably for medical intervention)
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A pair of black dress socks, one with a gray heel and gray toe box

[Clownkicker]

See, johnny. brandon provided you the proof of your opening lie about "11 mg of Fentanyl in [Floyd's] system..."

"No life-threatening injuries, those were the words."-Dishonestjohn

Of course, no one ever disputed that the small cherry-picked portion of the report you actually quoted was true. But your claim that Floyd had 11 mg of fentanyl in his system is a lie from your handlers that attempted to imply that Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose when he didn't. Floyd was murdered, as anyone who does not hold the courts in contempt as you do can tell you.
The jury had this evidence years ago. You are pretending this is new information when it isn't.

That's why I commented on my surprise that you would go against your Right Wing handlers and provide the evidence for a homicide conviction against Chauvin; that Floyd did NOT have any life-threatening injuries that caused his death, which leaves only the intentional murder of someone who would have otherwise lived if Chauvin had not forced Floyd's heart and lungs to shut down with a nine-minute knee to Floyd's neck.

[johnforbes]

Mr Forbes quoted the report as saying "No life-threatening injuries identified."

Now Clowntroller has posted material which says "No life-threatening injuries identified."

Without quibbling, it seems sufficient to say that those two conclusions are similar.

[Clownkicker]

It's good to see johnforbes admits he agrees that we have similar views about his lying and that brandon provided the proof that he lied.

As I said, it's incredible that johnforbes would post the decisive evidence that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's unnecessary death by refusing to allow medical care from a trained medical first responder, all while Chauvin restrained and compressed Floyd's breathing with a knee to his back for over nine minutes, causing Floyd's heart and lungs to stop functioning despite no other life threatening injuries.

Thank you, johnny. It's good to see that the homicide conviction of Chauvin was a correct verdict.By the way, johnforbes lied in his opening post, intentionally misquoting the actual two-year-old autopsy findings of "11 nanograms/mL" while pretending this is new information, which it's not. The jury heard this evidence and still convicted Chauvin of homicide.

As to johnny's childish lie about Floyd having "11 mg Fentanyl in system", since just 2 mg of Fentanyl in one's system is enough to kill someone, it it really stupid to pretend that Floyd could have been on his feet and walking around with 11 mg in his system as johnfibs pretends.

But johnforbes didn't bother to read the actual autopsy report so he stuck his foot in it again. He just obediently regurgitated the cjildish lies that his handlers slop into his trough each morning.

[johnforbes]

Let's be intellectually honest and compare what Mr Forbes quoted "No life-threatening injuries identified" with what Clown posted, which was "No life-threatening injuries identified."

Without claiming to be Sherlock Holmes, these conclusions are similar.

Indeed, one might say they are the same.

Our thanks go out to the eagle eye of Mr Forbes for noticing this.

[Clownkicker]

Let's be intellectually honest and compare quotations from johnfibs ""No life-threatening injuries identified" but 11 mg Fentanyl in system..." and the quotation from what Clown posted "...johnforbes lied in his opening post, intentionally misquoting the actual two-year-old autopsy findings of "11 nanograms/mL" while pretending this is new information, which it's not."

Without claiming to be Sherlock Holmes, these conclusions are not even vaguely similar.

Indeed, one might say there is a life-and-death difference, not to mention the johnforbes version is an outright lie about the medical examiner's report.

Our condolences go out to the aging myopic eye of MrMagooForbes for being unable to notice this.

[johnforbes]

Let us be analytical.

Mr Forbes quoted "No life-threatening injuries identified"

Clown post "No life-threatening injuries identified."

Without claiming to be Sherlock Holmes, these conclusions are similar.