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By johnforbes
#134585
"A Capitol Police timeline shows the Trump Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2, 2021, four full days before the event.

The police turned down the offer but then began to have second thoughts. The Capitol Police then asked their political minders — the House sergeant at arms chief among them — for permission to accept the troops on Jan. 4 but were turned down on the ground that such a show of force would create bad "optics," the records show."

But the most compelling piece of evidence that Trump wanted to thwart — rather than incite —violence is contained in a lengthy memo written by the Pentagon inspector general that chronicled the assistance the Defense Department offered Congress both ahead of and during the riot.

In it, the IG recounts a fateful meeting on Jan. 3, 2021 in the White House when then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with Trump on national security matters.

The complete passage — hardly mentioned by Democrats at the hearings or the news media covering them — is worth absorbing in its entirety.

"Mr. Miller and GEN Milley met with the President at the White House at 5:30 p.m.," the IG reported. "The primary topic they discussed was unrelated to the scheduled rally. GEN Milley told us that at the end of the meeting, the President told Mr. Miller that there would be a large number of protestors on January 6, 2021, and Mr. Miller should ensure sufficient National Guard or Soldiers would be there to make sure it was a safe event. Gen Milley told us that Mr. Miller responded, 'We've got a plan and we've got it covered.'"

In advance of the Jan. 6 rally, the president told the most senior civilian and uniformed leaders of the military he knew the event was going to draw a "large number of protestors," and he instructed the secretary of defense to ensure it was "safe" by having troops available. Democrats have not offered any evidence to counter that story.

The Pentagon memo also yields insight into the mindset of the Democrat-led Congress, top military officials and the local police before Jan. 6. Key players, it reveals, repeatedly raised concerns about accepting the offer of National Guard help, fearing it would create the perception of a military coup or martial law as the election results were certified.

Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told the IG "he did not want to create the perception that the military was involved in the electoral process," according to the memo. "He said that Mr. Miller made it clear that the military would not be involved in certifying the election results and that 10 different news agencies asked him about military use and martial law."
By Clownkicker
#134589
"In advance of the Jan. 6 rally, the president told the most senior civilian and uniformed leaders of the military he knew the event was going to draw a "large number of protestors," and he instructed the secretary of defense to ensure it was "safe" by having troops available. Democrats have not offered any evidence to counter that story."-johnflubs

They don't have to, dimwit. You just admitted that Trump didn't order any troops from the Pentagon. You're just too stupid to understand what you posted.

The Democrats presented that passage about how Trump didn't order any Troops at that meeting or any other in the hearings on TV. Just because you didn't watch the hearings doesn't mean Democrats didn't present the information.

Regardless, Trump could have stopped the riot with a single tweet, without any troops at all. Instead, he sat watching TV for three hours and talking to Republicans on the phone instead of stopping the riot. And when he did tweet, he merely put a target on Pence's back, causing his supporters to start chanting "Hang Mike Pence."

Trump didn't stop that either, dimwit.

Nothing you post about what Trump did will mitigate his dereliction of duty, doing nothing to stop the riot for three hours .

To this day Trump hasn't condemned the violence of his supporters. He merely said he loved them and that they were special for trying to overthrow the government. And that's about as disgusting as things can get.
By johnforbes
#134604
Mr Forbes polled his staff and indeed they were disgusted by the devious distortions of Clowntrollker's posting.

He said he wanted a "safe event" in the Pentagon briefing with Milley, and even Democrat Milley has not averred to the contrary.

He offered 10,000 Guard personnel, but Pelois didn't want them, perhaps because Democrats were planning to make political hay off any uproar that day.

So, to summarize, Clown is wrong.
By Clownkicker
#134606
Only he didn't offer 10,000 troops. And Pelosi never refused anything because Trump never talked to her about it. You made it up.

And neither Pelosi nor Pence wanted to risk death that day at the hands of traitorous Trump supporters to make political points, dimwit. Just how stupid are you.

To summarize, johnforbes is a lying sack of shit.
By johnforbes
#134611
Everybody killed that day was a Trump supporter.

Including the cop who was NOT hit over the head with a fire extinguisher, as leftists like CNN and Clown reported, but perished of natural causes with an autopsy revealing no physical trauma.

However, every person perusing Clowntroller's posts has suffered emotional trauma from exposure to the raw stupidity of Clown's content.
By Clownkicker
#134614
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Including the cop who was NOT hit over the head with a fire extinguisher, as leftists like CNN and Clown reported,..."-johnfibs

I never said any such thing, you lying sack of shit. You made it up.


"Everybody killed that day was a Trump supporter."-johnflubs

Nobody ever said otherwise, dimwit. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

But dozens of cops sent to the hospital were NOT Trump supporters. That you still have not said this was wrong of the Trump supporters and that you still support injuring police in an armed insurrection is despicable.
By johnforbes
#134623
Clown, please understand.

Yes, Clown is a leftist lunatic, but not the sole one.

The Left via CNN and MSNBC did indeed say that cop was hit over the head with a fire extinguisher, but the truth did emerge.
By Clownkicker
#134626
"Including the cop who was NOT hit over the head with a fire extinguisher, as leftists like CNN and Clown reported,..."-johnfibs

johnny, please understand.

When you attribute to me something I never said, it is a lie.

And refusing to apologize for that lie, and instead desperately attempt to distract from your lie as though you didn't say it when you did, that's what makes you a lying piece of shit.
By johnforbes
#134632
Clowntroller appears to be on shaky ground in terms of mental stability.

That guard was not struck in the head with a fire extinguisher, but Clown may well have been given his inchoate ideation.
By johnforbes
#134649
Come on, man.

Surveys of the posts here have consistently revealed that the typical forum maven long ago concluded that Clowntoker's postings could only be explained by him having been bonked by a fire extinguisher.

If not, what would account for the rambling wreck of Clown's Georgia Tech and non-Georgia non-tech posts?
By Clownkicker
#134653
And yet johnfibs can never refute with evidence a thing I post.

What does that say about dimwit johnny if he can't disprove something he considers to be crazy?

Imagine the ongoing chaotic nightmare inside his head.
By johnforbes
#134662
Clowntroller is correct that sometimes there is a chaotic storm of distress inside the perfect head of Mr Forbes.

Nine out of 10 dentists surveyed recently showed that the typical forum maven long ago concluded that Clowntoker's postings could only be explained by him having been bonked by a fire extinguisher.
By Clownkicker
#134664
^^^^^^ See? That stupidfuckerforbes has nothin', just like the entire contents of his dishonest, ignorant, unstable brain.

I've got him impotently spamming the board with his utter lack of any thoughts on anything.
By johnforbes
#134668
Probably many of the hundreds of thousands of readers here have strolled through the Louvre, and witnessed its treasure trove of culture.

The vast forebrain of Mr Forbes is a veritable Louvre compared to the yawning chasm of Clowntoker's skull.

Scientists who measured found that Clown's "brain" was rattling around in said skull like a BB in a boxcar.
By Clownkicker
#134671
"The vast forebrain of Mr Forbes is a veritable Louvre..."johnflubs

That's either hydrocephalus or thick bone ridges on your skull like Neanderthal, dimwit.

But once again we see that stupidfuckerforbes has nothin' but his usual diversions from his intellectual impotence.
By johnforbes
#134733
Mr Forbes asked his staff scientists to do a literary biopsy of Clowntroller's postings to ascertain the causality of Clown's leftist rage.

The lab result was:

"Sample appears to resemble human protoplasm, but with suspicious resemblance to chimp DNA."

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