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By johnforbes
#134498
"Donald Trump said he knew there was a possibility of violence happening during the January 6th protests and he asked for the D.C. National Guard to be there by the thousands to support the local police department. He also stated that his request was denied by the DOD, the Mayor of D.C., and Nancy Pelosi wouldn't allow the DCNG to support the local police.

Trump said on Truth Social:
How can I be guilty of a crime when I’m the one who wanted to stop the so-called “crime” by strongly recommending 10,000 plus troops to D.C., and hence the surrounding of the Capitol, only to have this recommendation rejected by Pelosi and the Mayor of D.C., who are in charge of Capitol security? There would have been no “January 6” if they had followed my recommendation. The Unselect Committee refuses to even mention this totally conclusive and determinative fact. WITCH HUNT! - DJT
The media called Trump a liar for almost two years and said he was responsible for the violence that happened on January 6th in the Capitol building where one person was shot and killed by police.

Now, the DOD has released documents showing their timeline of events leading up to the January 6th event and Trump has been vindicated and their own documents prove that Trump did request help from the National Guard. "
By sillydaddy
#134500
The Demos do not hide the fact they fear Trump running for President again and winning..
To that end, they want to find him guilty of a crime and have him disqualified from running.
Or failing that.. they need to at least have him appear to be guilty to voters...
Schiff is working on accusing him of witness tampering... telling us Trump approached someone
who remains un-named (because even the Committee doesn't know who it is yet) and who could be a potential witness...
Of course, there is no crime there but Schiff wants us to think there is.. :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#134501
I see johnforbes is once again falling for those fake stories Trump is putting out there without any evidence to support it.

Of course there is no evidence that Trump ever asked for 10,000 Na. Guard and there is no evidence that Pelosi rejected the alleged request. There is also no DoD documents showing that Trump ever called for Guard troops. johnny made it up.

Or put another way, there is the same amount of evidence that Trump requested troops as there is that there was widespread election fraud in 2020, which is none.

If you won't believe Democrats, then believe Republicans fer cripes sake. You have to believe SOMEONE. Read it and weep, johnny:

"A team of Republican lawyers, judges, and former senators reviewed dozens of lawsuits alleging voter fraud in the 2020 election and concluded there was none

A group of GOP lawyers, former senators, and judges, after a review of dozens of legal filings, determined that there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

The findings were released in a 72-page report Thursday. The authors of the report include former US Sens. John Danforth and Gordon Smith, three former federal judges, and a GOP election lawyer."-Business Insider

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz
By johnforbes
#134504
Clown is wrong.

Again.

Just a little probing revealed just that.

Of course, that is vastly different from the sort of demented probing Clown did during his tenure in Frisco.
By elklindo69
#134525
We are really fortunate that there were enough loyal patriots to the nation who saved us from losing our democracy to a con man his groveling minions and a horde of 5th rate hustlers.

You people couldn't find a better set of supervillains for that episode....LOL
By Clownkicker
#134527
johnforbes is wrong.

Again.

Just a little probing revealed just that.

The DoD said it has no documents to substantiate the false claim that Trump requested 10,000 Guard.

"But it turns out a Vanity Fair reporter was embedded with acting defense secretary Christopher Miller and his top aides during the period leading up to the insurrection. That real-time access provided a different version than the account offered by Trump and his former chief of staff.

Indeed, the official Defense Department planning and execution memo on the Jan. 6 events also makes no mention of any such discussion. Instead, it notes the possible activation of 340 National Guard troops to assist the D.C. government with traffic control — a move that came about after a Dec. 31 request by Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D).

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said officials checked the records after Trump’s remarks about ordering 10,000 National Guard troops. “We have no record of such an order being given,” Kirby told The Fact Checker."

Notably, neither the IG report nor the Walker response memo make any reference to Trump having a role in the response. Vanity Fair quotes a senior defense official as saying Defense Department officials could not reach Trump during the insurrection: “They couldn’t get through. They tried to call him.” As the congressional committee investigating Jan. 6 has disclosed, Meadows was besieged with emails from lawmakers and Fox News personalities urging Trump to take action to halt the riot — emails that Meadows does not mention in his book."-WaPost

Now it is incumbent upon johnfibs to post some evidence to support his lies if he disputes the evidence I posted from the Pentagon.

But he won't because he can't. As always, johnny is nothing more than an impotent partisan pussy.
By johnforbes
#134530
Kirby, isn't he the public affairs admiral who was a spindoctor at State?

If he said grass was green, a prudent man would go check the lawn.
By Clownkicker
#134534
Another impotent ad hominem distraction from johnfibs, because he hasn't got any evidence to offer from the DoD to support his purely partisan bullshit.

He was suckered by Trump on this one the way he was duped by his handlers about the "fake" story about the 10-year-old rape victim that turned out to be true and for which johnforbes has still failed to apologize.
By johnforbes
#134537
If that story turns out to be true, I will hasten to apologize on behalf of Clown for Clown's dishonest refusal to mention that the criminal was an illegal alien.
By Clownkicker
#134539
johnny, I gave you all relevant facts in an abortion case, dimwit.

That the perpetrator of the rape was an alien is merely a curiosity and irrelevant to the inhuman policies of Republican religious nuts.

Republicans would have also refused to allow an abortion if the rapist was your typical home-grown variety. They would still not allow a 10-year-old rape victim to obtain an abortion.

johnforbes should apologize every single day for that atrocity which he supports.
By johnforbes
#134548
He was an illegal alien.

If the facts are actually as the emerging story suggests, Clown is still sympathetic toward an illegal alien who raped a 10-year-old.

Surely Clown has not sunk that low?
By Clownkicker
#134552
Most rapists in America are not illegal aliens. This story is about abortion rights, not immigration.

If the facts are actually as the emerging story suggests, johnforbes is still sympathetic toward rapists because he is supporting the view that a woman may be coerced to be breeding stock for any criminal who wants to use her that way, and by his support for the state's power to force a woman to be treated as livestock, whether a 10-year-old or not.

Sadly, we already know johnforbes has sunk that low.
By johnforbes
#134556
No, all rapists are not illegal aliens.

But apparently this one was, and thus the leftist media outlets sought to keep that hidden.

The fact, though, is that any crime committed by illegal aliens could have been avoided by enforcing the law against these "invaders" who came in to the tune of 12 to 22 million people.
By Clownkicker
#134583
"But apparently this one was, and thus the leftist media outlets sought to keep that hidden."-johnfibs

Of course, no one tried to keep anything "hidden" you dishonest scumbag. As soon as charges were filed against the guy, it was immediately reported in ALL 'leftist' media outlets.

Before then, no one knew who did it so they couldn't report it, now could they, dummy.
Notice that FOXnews and OAN didn't report it either, so you can't blame 'leftists' for not reporting what nobody knew when 'rightists' also apparently "tried to keep it hidden" in your idiotic characterization. That's why you continued to post your lies that the story was "fake." FOXnews didn't report it either.

To this day you have not apologized for perpetrating that partisan lie for the unquestioning and gullible.
By johnforbes
#134584
Mr Forbes has been too busy awaiting Clowntroller's apology for Clown's disinformation and hate speech.

Upon receipt of Clown's humble apology, that will be ruled upon and we will proceed.
By Clownkicker
#134588
I have never posted any disinformation or hate speech.

I am neither a Republican nor a Trump supporter.

When you can demonstrate that something I posted was not true, then I will apologize for it. But that has never happened the way it happens regularly with you. Show me where I am wrong on something I said.

But you won't because you can't.

You have shown yourself to be an insecure weasel who, like Trump, is unable to admit when you are wrong.

Trump doubles down on his lies. You attempt to divert with idiotic non sequiturs and mind-numbing, repetitious, debunked posts when you are made a fool of. And you are made a fool of quite frequently because you never bother to check the moronic propaganda that your handlers slop into your trough on a daily basis.

Your handlers are not your friends, johnny. They are merely using you.
By Clownkicker
#134598
I appreciate johnforbes' humble admission that he's an ignorant partisan turd in all of his many and various past, always unsupported, erroneous statements such as this one where he made up a story that Trump actually requested National Guard security at the Capitol. johnny made it up, as always.

We're still waiting for the DoD documents you claim show he ordered 10,000 Guard troops.
By johnforbes
#134602
The Pentagon memo and the other info were important news stories over the past few weeks.

Where has Clown been, in quarantine with senile Joe?
By Clownkicker
#134605
It's such an important memo that apparently johnfibs can't even locate it.

There is NO DoD document that shows Trump ordered up 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol, and lying johnny knows it now because I forced him to actually read what he posted. Trump made no orders to protect the Capitol.

Trump literally did nothing but watch TV for three hours instead of taking steps to stop the riot when a single tweet could have stopped it. johnforbes also knows this to be true but he doesn't care. He's still flailing about trying to make it look like Trump did everything he could and the riot is someone else's fault.

But it isn't.
By johnforbes
#134612
This has happened a thousand times and Clown never learns.

He says something doesn't exist, then I prove it does, and then Clown slinks away in silent shame as a simpering socialist.
By Clownkicker
#134615
Only you NEVER "prove it does" exist, you lying sack of shit.

You keep threatening to prove something exists but you can never find it to post. You never do, because you can't.

In this case there is no DoD document showing that Trump ordered up 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol.

You made it up as you make up everything you post.
By johnforbes
#134631
The memo is the memo, and it of course exists.

Clowntroller should have realized long ago that all of the postings from Mr Forbes are subjected to extreme investigative rigor.

Papers are submitted, with footnotes in German and French referencing scholarly journals, and then Mr Forbes considers them for publication on the Worldwide Interwebs.
By Clownkicker
#134637
"The memo is the memo, and it of course exists."-johnflubs

Yes, and the memo proves that Trump did not order the DoD to call up 10,000 National Guard troops to stand by, as you are pretending. It never happened. You made it up.

Why you regularly keep proving your own lies is really puzzling, dimwit.
By johnforbes
#134650
As usual, Clowntoker is wrong, and provably so.

The only dispute is whether Trump approved 10k or 20k troops to quell any disturbances and assure that it was, in his wording, a "safe event."

Trump also urged his supporters to demonstrate "peacefully and patriotically."

I will gracefully accept Clown's humble apology for being totally wrong.
By Clownkicker
#134654
"As usual, His lordship is wrong, and provably so."-johnfibs

So prove it, dimwit. But you won't because you can't.

So far your "memo" only proves that Trump talked about the subject. And it also proves he didn't order the DoD to do a thing about the subject.

There is no DoD documents proving Trump did anything at all. He certainly didn't order either 10,000 or 20,000 Guard Troops to stand by.

johnfibs made it up.
By johnforbes
#134657
Clown was a big fan of Traci Lords, but there is no need to call me "Lord."

Heck, I once tried to rent a DVD of "Lord of the Rings," but got the wrong movie.

The one I inadvertently rented was entitled "Lord of the Nipple Rings," and it had a completely different plot.

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