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By johnforbes
#134072
Listening to Benny not knowing how to say "supremacist" and watching Liz Cheney...it was inspring.

Not since "Gone With the Wind" has there been such a sprawling saga of intergenerational love and lust, spanning the decades.

I cried, I laughed, and I emerged emotionally exhausted.

Other reviews?
By sillydaddy
#134098
Hearings were called off today....why?
Canceling the hearings makes it hard to believe the Demos are really concerned
about what happened on Jan. 6th.
More and more looking like what it really is.. a political move.. :laugh: :laugh:
By johnforbes
#134104
The committee, chaired by Bennie who can't even pronounce the word "supremacist", won't make any criminal referrals.

Because, just like the fake dossier and the fake Mueller probe for 2 years, the current committee is full of Schiff.
By johnforbes
#134125
In a better time, innocent people would not have to beg for preemptive pardons, but Eastman committed the cardinal sin of defending Trump and so he knows he will be targeted.

It used to be that only a Banana Republic would weaponize the tax service and all aspects of bureaucracy to go after opponents, but give the Democrats credit for partisan hate.

Dems no longer argue that socialism and race-baiting and open borders are good. They are beyond that, and instead they call others racist haters and censor or deplatform them.

Democrat ideas are so bad they literally cannot rationally argue them.

For example, the NY mayor and others are now saying drag queens should read to little kids, and that is a dumb thing regardless of politics.
By elklindo69
#134159
Andy Biggs
Mo Brooks
Matt Gaetz
Louie Gohmert
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Scott Perry

That's the cast of conservatives who asked Trump for pardons after the insurrection.....well because that is exactly what people do when they know they haven't committed any crimes.
By johnforbes
#134163
No, it is exactly what they do when confronted with political persecution prosecution.

America is becoming more like a Banana Republic where the word of the caudillo matters.
By johnforbes
#134238
REAKING: Secret Service Agent Bobby Engel and driver of 'The Beast' are willing to testify that they were never assaulted by Trump and the Fmr. President did not lunge for a steering wheel on Jan. 6 - NBC News
By johnforbes
#134257
Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has already been shown to be ridiculous.

She was so upset by Jan 6 that on Jan 14 she sought another job with Trump at Mar a Lago.

Also, obviously, the Secret Service said no grabbing of the steering wheel occurred. Even NBC and ABC, both very biased in favor of the Left, reported that.
By Clownkicker
#134270
johnforbes was easily fooled again by his lack of understanding the difference between a "grabbing of" the steering wheel and a "grabbing at" the steering wheel.

Words matter, johnny.
By elklindo69
#134280
According to testimony, the terminology was 'lunged."

Now you don't necessarily need to be inside of the vehicle to "lunge" at the steering wheel. Trump could have been standing outside of the vehicle in the vicinity of the driver and "lunged" in the direction of the steering wheel before being restrained by Secret Service agents.
By Clownkicker
#134284
The verbatim testimony was "The President reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel."

Moments later Trump allegedly "lunged toward" Bobby Angle with his free hand.

All the testimony was consistent with what we all (including johnoforbes) know about Trump's language and behavior over many years.
By elklindo69
#134287
So apparently as per CNN's reporting, sources within the Secret Service were told an angry confrontation did occur. And the observations did align with Hutchinson's testimony.

(CNN)Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn't get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.

The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident -- including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 -- in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.

While the details from those who heard the accounts differ, the Secret Service sources say they were told an angry confrontation did occur. And their accounts align with significant parts of Hutchinson's testimony, which has been attacked as hearsay by Trump and his allies who also have tried to discredit her overall testimony.

Like Hutchinson, one source, a longtime Secret Service employee, told CNN that the agents relaying the story described Trump as "demanding" and that the former President said something similar to: "I'm the f**king President of the United States, you can't tell me what to do." The source said he originally heard that kind of language was used shortly after the incident.

"He had sort of lunged forward -- it was unclear from the conversations I had that he actually made physical contact, but he might have. I don't know," the source said. "Nobody said Trump assaulted him; they said he tried to lunge over the seat -- for what reason, nobody had any idea."

The employee said he'd heard about the incident multiple times as far back as February 2021 from other agents, including some who were part of the presidential protective detail during that time period but none of whom were involved in the incident.
By johnforbes
#134291
Before continuing with that lie, take a look at some diagram of that vehicle.

CNN's ratings are, of course, lower than senile Joe's because years of Trump hatred begin to bore everybody.

When Elkin first appeared as an infant on the doorstep of this fine forum, there was a certain naive charm in his infatuation with Marxist anti-American rhetoric.

Now that Elkin is 67, and his chronological age matches his IQ, the charm is gone.


By elklindo69
#134311
Johnnie's version of the United States is the one where children in grade school are forbidden from learning about slavery but 10 year old rape victims are required to give birth. So I imagine that Trump must be tossing plates at his Mar de Crappo omlette bar whining and bitching that he's not a crook.

On this 4th of July perhaps you should root for America for once....
By johnforbes
#134318
Oh no, they would learn about slavery, but in context.

If America is not the best big experiment in government in the history of mankind on this planet, what is?

Don't say Andorra; it is small.

Don't say Russia or China or India -- big but not better.

I await the reply.
By elklindo69
#134352
Conservatives fear over critical race theory speaks for itself. They are even banning math books in Florida? Maybe I was out the day in 2nd grade when they discussed critical race theory. Or more likely conservatives have just gone bat shit nuts becuase they think it's OK with forcing a 10 year old child to give birth to her rapist's baby, but hold the fuck on, because the same 10 year old cannot see someone performing in drag because that's way too traumatic...

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By johnforbes
#134381
Elkin, stop repeating that story about the 10-year-old.

It is false.

To be fair to Elkin, he has swallowed many silly stories.

And, indeed, Elkin has swallowed many other things during his frantic, festive, frolics in Frisco.
By elklindo69
#134396
So apparently when you can't you dispute something you will deny that it exists....lol

Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn says abortion should be illegal even for a 12-year-old rape victim carrying her father or uncle’s child. He made the remark to reporters in the hours after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, allowing state abortion bans to take effect.
By johnforbes
#134413
Elkin, please keep up.

Even the steadfastly Left Wing rag known as the Washington Post has realized that tale of the 10 yr old was false.

Elkin is so gullible that he even "purchased" the Brooklyn Bridge.
By elklindo69
#134444
So what do expect Johnnie? That some 10 year year old will come out publicly as the victim of rape? Or the parents will come out publicly claiming that their child was raped? To destroy the reputation of their child just for the sake of proving it to the right wing loons? And then the whole wide world will know that this person was raped as a 10 year old.

What fucking planet are you living on? You are just clueless....
By johnforbes
#134489
What do I expect?

Well, if Democrats up to and including Joe are using that crime as a political talking point, I expect the truth about the incident?

Apparently, if the story is true at all, the criminal is an illegal alien, so that would not help the Democrats.
By Clownkicker
#134490
What difference does it make if the guy's a Mexican rapist, dimwit? How does that "not help" Democrats? If anything, it only makes it that much more critical for a woman to have her rights guaranteed because there is nothing she can do about being raped, not even by an American rapist. American rapists are exactly as bad as Mexican rapists, but johnforbes and Republicans are outraged by Mexican rapists while they think American rapists are fine, apparently.

Any rape victim has exactly the same human rights and the same morality applies regardless of the perpetrator's nationality. Abortion rights have nothing to do with rape. Inhuman abortion LAWS have to do with rape. Democrats know that, rape or not, Mexican or not, the woman has exactly the same human right to control her own body. Republicans are the ones who turn 'Mexican rape' into a political talking point, as johnforbes is doing, as if it mattered in the least to the issue of abortion rights. But many Republicans don't even care if a woman is raped as demonstrated by their abortion laws that make no exceptions in cases of rape. They just consider it a bit of bad luck a woman has to live with for the rest of their lives.

If the guy's Mexican, it has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion rights. johnforbes is simply trying his usual partisan distractions from the real issue of the state forcing women to become incubators without compensation or even paid prenatal care for the "life" that is so precious it isn't even worth taking care of by Right Wing ideologues and religious nuts.

A rape victim doesn't care if the rapist is Mexican, so why should anyone else? A 10-year-old rape victim that is forced by inhuman monsters to travel to another state to get medical care is the point.

Forget illegal aliens. I fear Republican authoritarians and heavily armed White militias far more. Their inability to address abortion rights because they are focused on partisan immigration talking points is exactly why Republicans shouldn't have anything to say on the abortion issue. They actually think a woman's right to control her own body should be based on the nationality of a rapist. They are that fucked up.
By Clownkicker
#134491
And speaking of the hypocrites who pretend to be "Pro Life," here are a few things that are pro life:

1. universal health care is pro life.
2. restricting guns is pro life.
3. fighting climate change is pro life.
4. listening to doctors during a pandemic is pro life.
5. not forcing women to give birth as though they are livestock is pro life.

Republicans pretend to be pro life, yet they are against all of those things.
By johnforbes
#134495
There are about a million and a half cases every year where guns are used to save lives and/or prevent crimes.

A psychotic punk in Uvalde wreaked havoc until belatedly good people with guns resolved that mess.

A gun is just a tool, no better or no worse than the man using it, as explained in the novel Shane
By elklindo69
#134518
The right wing loons think the solutions to problems can be solved with guns. Is there anything that you morons WILL NOT open fire on?

The United States is the most heavily armed nation on the fucking planet and that still hasn't stopped gun violence and as a matter of fact it has the highest incidents of gun violence....you people have just gone fucking nuts.

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