[johnforbes]

Hilly felt she was robbed in 2016, and now Joe says the 2022 elections might not be legit.

But rational people who wondering how a senile guy in his basement could win 81 million real votes were derided as conspiracy theorists.

[Clownkicker]

No, irrational people (people like you) without a shred of evidence to support your claims of widespread election fraud were derided as conspiracy theorists.

You are STILL derided as conspiracy theorists because without any evidence whatsoever of election fraud, you are irrational garden-variety conspiracy theorists. Truly rational people demand evidence to support claims. You, unfortunately, do not require evidence to believe something.

All rational people agree with those statements.

[johnforbes]

But nobody has a shred of evidence to show -- or suggest -- the 2022 election will be illegit, but he said so.

Meanwhile, anybody who dared to wonder about 2020 were depicted as deranged conspiracy theorists.

[Clownkicker]

No, only irrational people (people like you) without a shred of evidence to support your claims of widespread election fraud were derided as conspiracy theorists.

You are STILL derided as conspiracy theorists because without any evidence whatsoever of election fraud, you are irrational garden-variety conspiracy theorists. Truly rational people demand evidence to support their beliefs. You, unfortunately, do not require evidence to believe something; the very definition of "irrational".

The 2020 election is over and has been looked into, audited by Republicans, and found to be valid. Despite all evidence to the contrary, irrational people like you are still unwilling to believe your own party's conclusions about the election and still insist the election was riddled with fraud; a belief you desperately cling to despite having no evidence whatsoever to support your belief.

That's why you are derided as an irrational conspiracy theorist. Not because you "dared to wonder" about the election, but because you refuse to accept the answers to your questions from your own party when those answers don't fit with your irrational world view.

[johnforbes]

My own party?

Like many others, I have none.

My principles are conservative, Burkean really, and are seldom echoed by the US Chamber of Commerce open border RINOs at Ronna Romney's RNC.

Democrats, of course, have evolved from sane fellows like JFK (listen to his wonderful 1962 address to the Econ Club of NY in 1962) to leftist lunatics like Lori Lightfoot or Gavin Newsom.

[Clownkicker]

Look at johnny desperately try to divert form the hard fact of his irrational conspiracy theories.

He can't refute anything I say, so he attempts silly distractions with irrelevant technicalities that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

johnforbes is STILL derided as a conspiracy theorist because without any evidence whatsoever of election fraud, he's an irrational garden-variety conspiracy theorist. Truly rational people demand evidence to support their beliefs. johnforbes, unfortunately, does not require evidence to believe something; the very definition of "irrational".

[Clownkicker]

Here's an example of the people who believe what johnforbes believes.

Mike Lindel adamantly insists there was massive election fraud in 2020 and now claims he has "enough evidence to put everybody in prison for life; three hundred and some million people."

In other words, dimwits like johnforbes and Lindel (who believe this conspiracy theory of Trump's) are so unhinged that they don't even try to hide their insanity any longer because the Republican Party will destroy you if you don't act as insane as Trump does. When Cruz recently said the January 6th riot was a "terrorist attack" on our democracy, he was then forced to go on Tucker Carlson and grovel and beg and retract his rational statement that dared to be reflect reality. Mike Lindel literally said that every man, woman, and child in America perpetrated election fraud in 2020 and should go to prison for life. He seems totally oblivious to the fact that the millions of children in this country can't vote, and he seems oblivious to the fact that he just included all Republicans as perpetrators of his nutjob conspiracy theory. That's how insane the johnforbes camp is.

[johnforbes]

It is hardly a distraction to talk about one's principles, as the estimable Mr Forbes did above.

But it is a distraction when Clownslacker veers off into what a pillow-making fellow is saying.

[Clownkicker]

See? johnforbes just reiterated that he encourages someone (which includes Lindel in johnny's mind) talking about his principles. That's how insane johnny is.

It never occurs to johnforbes that he should look around and see who agrees with his beliefs.

If every last person who agrees with you hasn't a shred of evidence to support their beliefs and is insane, then maybe you should question your precarious "Weltbild" eh?

[johnforbes]

Death Valley's Badwater Basin is the point of lowest elevation in North America, at 282 feet below sea level.

On a chart of IQs, Clownslacker's IQ occupies a similar piece of real estate.