[Clownkicker]

johnny, if you actually followed the science, you would have demanded evidence of fraud from Trump, Giuliani, Pillow Man, Taylor Greene, yourself, and all those other nut jobs long ago.

You have yet to demand evidence from any of the Trump supporters you believe we should listen to. And why should we listen to them? Because their feelings are hurt. Waah...

Well, I listened and heard nothing, just like every court heard nothing, every Secretary of State heard nothing, every Congressman heard nothing, every news reporter heard nothing, and every private citizen heard nothing from them. Not a shred of evidence has been presented anywhere that wasn't debunked by Republican poll workers, Republican Governors, and Republican Secretaries of State.

I'm sorry, sometimes we must listen to Republicans and believe them because we have no choice.

Your fantasy about a "nonpartisan" audit is hilarious. Virtually all people have political opinions. And you won't believe any audit results anyway, so why bother?

The U.S. cannot go without a President for six months because a bunch of dishonest whiners don't like the results. That's the thing about a democracy. Everyone must agree to abide by the election results. Sometimes you must accept defeat if there is no evidence of fraud of any kind, as is the situation today. Trump supporters refuse to accept the results, regardless of who tells them the results. Stop pretending you will because you won't, ever.

Democrats aren't frightened in the least about audits, dummy. You keep saying that but can't back it up with anything. You can run all the audits you want. Go ahead. In two more years you may finally be able to tell us who won and accept Biden as your legally elected President. Meanwhile, you will have weakened our political system beyond repair because you apparently hate America and would rather burn it down than look at the science. You are certifiably insane.

[johnforbes]

Democrats should WANT thorough non--partisan audits of all key swing states in order to prove to dubious Americans that the senile babbling fool on TV is not the charismatic gent who won 81 million votes.

Senile Joe is his own worst advertisement for the concept that he won fair and square.

[Clownkicker]

First johnforbes admits defeat in the last election, then he yammers on about how he refuses to accept any audits of swing state elections, no matter who does them.

How is anyone to get more than insane gibberish from johnforbes?

If only he would follow the science that shows repeatedly that Biden won. Next he should ignore any claims not supported by evidence, which is everything Trump and his cronies babble on about.

[johnforbes]

Clown has missed the point more often than the average fencing instructor.

Democrats should WANT thorough non--partisan audits of all key swing states in order to prove to dubious Americans that the senile babbling fool on TV is not the charismatic gent who won 81 million votes.

Senile Joe is his own worst advertisement for the concept that he won fair and square.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes continues to miss the point, which is that there is no need for audits when no one has presented any evidence of fraud.

johnforbes is currently free to run any audits he wants to run. But for some reason he refuses to do so. Every Trump supporter would WANT to pay for more audits, but they haven't done so. They are terrified to learn that their guy actually lost and they certainly don't want to put their money where their mouth is. But when Republicans run their audits, johnforbes still refuses to accept the results. It's truly baffling....

Or johnny could take his evidence of election fraud to the authorities to get an election invalidated. But he hasn't yet offered a shred of evidence that the election was not fair. And when nobody, even his own party officials, has any evidence of fraud, he continues to whine about non-existent fraud.

johnforbes should WANT audit results to be accepted so that sore losers would stop undermining our democracy, but he doesn't care about our democracy and he's terrified that his guy lost fair and square.

[johnforbes]

I have no credentials to conduct an election audit, and isn't my role in life to conduct such.

By the same token, Clowntoker is the token leftist dolt on this thread.

Clown has missed the point more often than the average fencing instructor.

Democrats should WANT thorough non--partisan audits of all key swing states in order to prove to dubious Americans that the senile babbling fool on TV is not the charismatic gent who won 81 million votes.

[Clownkicker]

Let me make this official, dummy.

All Democrats want Republicans to do endless audits.

They are free to pay for any audits they want. Don't just yammer endklessly about them, johnny. Do it already. No one is stopping you.

As it is, Democrats have all the audits of the 2020 vote that their little hearts desire. Why would they want any more at the taxpayers' expense when there isn't a shred of evidence that there was any fraud.?

You hypocritical 'fiscal conservatives' really need to stop squandering hundreds of millions of public money on your crazy, unsupported conspiracy theories and futile recall elections.

[johnforbes]

Every thread contains great postings, ones filled with wisdom, leavened by wit, and these posts brighten our day and help smooth our journey through this vale of tears.

On this thread, not suprisingly, such posts have emanated from the peerless sagacity of Mr. Forbes.

E.g.:

Certainly, if the science pointed to it, I could accept defeat in an election.

Actually, the entire country would be better off had there been a clear, uncontroversial winner and loser, but alas Democrats were terrified to conduct thorough audits of the key swing states.

A huge percentage of the population believes senile Joe was installed, not elected.

It doesn't matter what we here believe -- the general public feels that 2020 election had no credibility.

Every adult can accept defeat, if that is the way it turns out.

If you play basketball, or arm-wrestle in the cafeteria daily, you know both winning and losing.

If I were to arm-wrestle Devon Larratt, my loss would be instant -- i.e., the same result as when Clowntoker loses to his grandmother.

With regard to the 2020 election, Democrats should WANT certitude that Joe won and by 6 million votes.

But Democrats continue to be scared to death of any thorough audit of any key area in a swing state, and pollls have show a significant percentage of Dems don't feel that Joe really won.

[Clownkicker]

"Certainly, if the science pointed to it, I could accept defeat in an election."-johnfoibles

Once again johnforbes admits tells us that he accepts defeat but keeps on yammering nonsense anyway.

But it was nice of him to tell us he appreciates how wise my posts are.

[johnforbes]

No, Mr. Forbes was merely saying that he could accept defeat if such transpired.

But every ounce of evidence which came out about the Nov 2020 election revealed more problems.

The key swing states ALL violated their own election rules, and dead people were voting, deadlines were extended improperly per the US Constitution, people who had moved to other states voted, and so forth.

As Newsweek admitted, the election was "fortified" for senile Joe.

If Democrats felt senile Joe won by 6 million votes, they would welcome audits of all key swing states to prove that.

Instead, they viciously oppose audits.

There were 57,734 potentially fraudulent ballots cast in Maricopa County for the 2020 general election.

The vote difference in the 2020 election between Biden and Trump in Arizona was only 10,457 votes.

So investigate and find out the real truth -- not the "truth" which favors Biden or favors Trump.

Find out the real truth, but Dems oppose that.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^ All of that is made up and debunked bullshit for simpletons.

That's why johnforbes swilled it down without question.

Unfortunately, he has no evidence to support any of it.

[johnforbes]

In the true spirit of Christmas Eve, Mr. Forbes has offered the following observations which, of course, constitute his usual neutral, incisive commentary on the march of human folly.

Mr. Forbes was saying that he could accept defeat if such transpired. But every ounce of evidence which came out about the Nov 2020 election revealed more problems.

The key swing states ALL violated their own election rules, and dead people were voting, deadlines were extended improperly per the US Constitution, people who had moved to other states voted, and so forth.

As Newsweek admitted, the election was "fortified" for senile Joe.

If Democrats felt senile Joe won by 6 million votes, they would welcome audits of all key swing states to prove that.

Instead, they viciously oppose audits.

There were 57,734 potentially fraudulent ballots cast in Maricopa County for the 2020 general election.

The vote difference in the 2020 election between Biden and Trump in Arizona was only 10,457 votes.

So investigate and find out the real truth -- not the "truth" which favors Biden or favors Trump.

Find out the real truth, but Dems oppose that.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, your "neutral" commentary is nothing but partisan propaganda. You need to learn how slanted your absurd "Weltbild" is.

By all means, "Find out the real truth," but johnforbes refuses to do that and then whines about how he feels disenfranchised because he and other purely partisans refuse to put their money where their mouths are.

No one is stopping them. They're only held back by their utter dearth of evidence. Waaah....

[johnforbes]

My Weltbild is large.

It contains multitudes, but is not gay as Whitman apparently was.