[johnforbes]

A leaked Whitehall document seen by Politico suggests that perspex screens installed to stop the transmission of COVID-19 may actually have increased its spread.

Businesses and schools were told by the government to install the screens as a condition of re-opening after the first lockdown and they were widely used by ‘essential’ shops throughout the entire period.

Tthe perspex screens could be about to be scrapped given new information the government has received on their efficacy.

“Ministers are also being advised that those perspex screens that have appeared in some offices and restaurants are unlikely to have any benefit in terms of preventing transmission,” states the report.

“Problems include them not being positioned correctly, with the possibility that they actually increase the risk of transmission by blocking airflow. Therefore there is clear guidance to ministers that these perspex screens should be scrapped.”

Despite the report, government ministers say there is no plan to change advice on installing the screens in businesses.

What other COVID-19 measures put in place to fight the spread of the virus have been utterly useless or actually made it worse?

A study on the effectiveness of face masks involving 6,000 participants in Denmark found “there was no statistically significant difference between those who wore masks and those who did not when it came to being infected by Covid-19.”

[Clownkicker]

Geezus H. Christ, johnny, nobody cares. If they aren't effective they will be removed. Criminy...

Plastic dividers didn't cause any bankruptcies or cancers either, so why should anyone care?

They were put in place before people knew what they now know about COVID-19. And your article is still just a bunch of "may have" and "unlikely" and "possibility". None of that is scientific conclusion. It is mererly speculation.

Why are you now trying to make inconclusive speculation into a partisan "gotcha" issue?

[johnforbes]

Scientists who were experts should have been expert scientists, not people who felt plastic dividers would work.

Or that some ripped t-shirt made into a "mask" would prove efficacious.

Roger Bacon wept.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, plastic shields DID work in many situations. Whether they worked in ALL situations, I don't know. And neither do you.

But all you have to say they didn't is a bunch of speculation, not facts. And that's worth about what all the "wants" and "wishes" you carry around in your superstitious partisan pea brain. Which is nothin'.

[johnforbes]

To be serious for a second, I actually thought the plastic dividers would work, so I was surprised at this report that in various ways they proved counterproductive.

But then that's why I'm not a scientist, but instead handsome and affluent, eh?

[Clownkicker]

"To be serious for a second, I actually thought the plastic dividers would work, so I was surprised at this report that in various ways they proved counterproductive."-johnforbes

But the report DOESN'T say the plastic dividers were counterproductive. It only SPECULATES about them possibly being counterproductive. That's not the same thing, and it certainly isn't enough reason to take the plastic dividers down yet or to consider the dividers some sort of 'government overreach' the way you are doing for purely partisan purposes.

[johnforbes]

Actually the plastic dividers are coming down.

The restaurant I was in earlier this evening had no masks on waitresses.

[Clownkicker]

So you're telling us your purely partisan thread is pointless and irrelevant?

Gee, who could have seen that coming?

[johnforbes]

No, pointing out leftist authoritarianism is always worthwhile.

[Clownkicker]

What I can't figure out is how you never point out rightist authoritarianism.

For some reason that doesn't ever bother you.

[johnforbes]

No, Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism dealt with both.

Obviously, both the far Left and the far Right meet in totalitarianism.

Currenly, we have the radical Left essentially guiding the narrative for senile Joe, for the kneelers in the NBA and NFL and MLB, and we have the attempt to ignore BLM riots while concentrating on others this year (which were probably infiltrated by agents).

So a mention of Left totalitarism is more on topic these days.

[divermouse]

not wearing mask for your dear russian leaders's little cock pussy vibrato was also was effective in killing thousands NEEDLESSSLY. blood on your hands there sparkles.

[johnforbes]

Diver, I don't understand your post or who you are talking to.

[Clownkicker]

"So a mention of Left totalitarism is more on topic these days."-johnflubs

johnny, the world is facing rightist dictators, would-be dictators, and authoritarians in growing numbers. There haven't been any new leftist authoritarians on the world scene in decades.

There is Putin in Russia, Bolsonaro in Brazil, Duterte in the Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, Khamenei in Iran, MBS in Saudi Arabia, Trump in America, and on and on. This is the daily "topic" of every newscast from every news source on the planet.

Why you are so unbelievably blind to this actual threat to global freedom and instead focus on some non-existent authoritarian threat from the Left is just stupid. I mean that. I have seldom encountered someone as willfully ignorant as you show yourself to be. And you are shaking in you moldy boots in fear of Berni Sanders and AOC. Like they're going to do anything.

Waah, waah, the authoritarian leftists are going to make everyone have health care!

Criminy...

[johnforbes]

Leftist authoritarians are everywhere, from Zuck to Gates to Dorsey to all the other power-mad dropouts in Big Tech.

Other leftist authoritarians include Newsom in CA, Whitmer, Wolf in PA, Cuomo in NY, Kumela, and Orange Girl Jen.

[Clownkicker]

Who would you rather face in government, johnny? Who is the greater threat? Rightists Putin, Bolsonaro, Khamenei, Duterte, MBS, Assad, the Thai Army, and Erdogan? Or "Newsom in CA, Whitmer, Wolf in PA, Cuomo in NY, Kumela, and Orange Girl Jen."

You are actually comparing the threat of those rightist authoritarian killers to a bunch of unarmed politicians who have never raised a hand to anyone.

That's johnny's rightist dishonesty in a nutshell. It's just like Marjorie Taylor Greene comparing mask mandates to save people's lives with the Jewish genocide in Nazi concentration camps.

Rightist authoritarians are the greatest immediate threat on the planet right now. And you're pissing your pants over the formidable Jen Saki. What a pussy you are, johnny.

[johnforbes]

It isn't an either/or.

Any citizen, and more so a global investor, faces all such risks.

I'm not a fan of authoritarianism of any sort, particularly the recent Big Tech censorship on Twitter, Google, YouTube, Facebook, etc.

It is leftist McCarthyism.

[Clownkicker]

Of course it isn't either/or.

But you are pretending Jen Saki is a greater and more pressing threat to freedom than Putin or the Thai Army. Jen Saki has no more power than Kayliegh McEnany or Sarah Sanders, and they just disappeared without any loss of America's freedoms. But for some reason Saki scares the shit out of you. What is it with you Republican pussies?

Meanwhile, rightist authoritarians are restricting actual freedom all over the world, even killing opponents, outlawing opposition parties, and closing down newspapers.

But you're quaking in your slippers over Bernie Sanders and AOC talking on TV. They have never fomented armed insurrection or threatened the lives of the Vice President and Speaker of the House as you make excuses for the rightists who actually attempted to carry it out.

Even the FBI is telling you that right-wing organizations are the biggest terrorist threat in America today, but you don't care because those groups support your beliefs. If you really aren't a "fan" then you should stop making excuses for them every time they carry swastikas and Confederate battle flags through someone's town as you whine about BLM people who are inexplicably tired of being shot in their homes and neighborhoods for simply being black.

[johnforbes]

Jen Psaki isn't smart enough to scare anybody.

The Orange Girl gets mentioned because, like any spindoctor currently in the role, she is currently in the role.

[Clownkicker]

"The Orange Girl gets mentioned because, like any spindoctor currently in the role, she is currently in the role."-johnfoibles

No, you mention her because you lack all perspective. You are here literally arguing that Psaki and AOC are a greater threats to freedom than Putin, Khamenei, or the Thai Army.

If you had any perspective on authoritarians, Psaki's name wouldn't even come up.

That she comes up in your rhetoric only demonstrates your absurd view on authoritarians is purely partisan politics. Nothing more.

[johnforbes]

Stop making things up.

Jen Psaki is an airhead spindoctor doing informational damage, but she is nowhere near the threat level of a Putin.

That would be obvious to a Third Grader, and it shouldn't need to be stated here.

[Clownkicker]

"Jen Psaki is an airhead spindoctor doing informational damage, but she is nowhere near the threat level of a Putin."-johnflubs 6-23-21

Do you ever bother to listen to yourself, johnny?

"So a mention of Left totalitarism is more on topic these days."-johnfibs 6-20-21

Psaki is what you ignorantly call "a leftist totalitarian" and Putin is an actual rightist totalitarian.

You just admitted that the rightist Putin is the far greater threat. Then you say you don't comment on the actual threat but instead you only comment on the imaginary leftist threat because the imaginary threat is "more on topic."

Let me fix that for you, dimwit: "So a mention of Left totalitarism is "moron topic" these days."

[johnforbes]

Communism is on the Left, and Putin is an authoritarian more toward that end of the spectrum.

But noting that Jen is a dishonest airhead has nothing to do with ignoring Putin.

Clown seems drunk early.

Again.

[Clownkicker]

Putin is a radical rightist authoritarian, not leftist in any way, johnny.

He is for oligarchs and plutocrats, nothing else. They don't even mention a 'Russian collective' running things any longer.

[johnforbes]

Oh, if you are talking him personally, then of course he stands for money for himself.

But Russia's history was communism -- the Left.

Authoritarianism, from the Left or the Right, meets at the point of total control.

[Clownkicker]

We aren't talking about "history," dummy.

We're talking about the world today and the authoritarians threatening freedom all over the globe.

They are all rightists, as you conceded with Putin. I gave you multiple examples of rightist authoritarians...you know, ACTUAL PEOPLE ALIVE RIGHT NOW, not in history books. You gave me no examples to support your delusion that the real threat to freedom comes from "the Left".

[johnforbes]

No, that alas is not true.

CCP is an example of Left-leaning authoritarianism, and a big one.

There were and are many other examples.

But, given the rumors about Putin's net worth, your point about his authoritarianism as a person coming more from a capitalistic corruption standpoint, I agree.

[Clownkicker]

And right now Putin, a rightist, is the greater threat to freedom.

Thank you for admitting you were wrong in only looking at leftist authoritarians as the greater threat today.

I'm always happy to help enlighten the intellectually handicapped. You're welcome, as always.

[johnforbes]

Thank you for understanding my posts and for your agreement with me.

As stated many times, authoritarianism on the Left and the Right occurs.

Their meeting point is on total control.

[Clownkicker]

Yes, I always understand johnny's posts.

All one need do is assume he's merely regurgitating whatever partisan slop his handlers are feeding him that has his panties in a bunch on any given day, and you will always be correct.

johnforbes does love his made up stupid shit. Nummm...

[johnforbes]

I appreciate Clown's graceful acceptance that I was (as usual) correct.

[Clownkicker]

I appreciate johnforbes' graceful acceptance that I am aware that he eats and regurgitates a daily ration of made up partisan shit.

johnnny (with his doofy shit-eating grin) is getting to be downright agreeable lately.

[johnforbes]

I agree that my geniality is one of my many good qualities.

Yet Clown remains oddly saturnine.

[Clownkicker]

Curiously, johnforbes' drag queen alter ego is also known as "Missed Congeniality".


Coincidence?

[johnforbes]

Sorry, my tastes are plain vanilla, as witness the plain vanilla no-fat yogurt I had this afternoon after a hike in 92 F weather.

Not all of us are simpering socialists into the heated homo hijinks for which Clown is known.

[Clownkicker]

Yes, in his everyday life, johnforbes is unimaginatively, embarrassingly "white bread" as we all know.

But when the wife's away and the sun goes down, johnny eagerly heads out to the local truck stops and freeway restrooms as he tries to recapture those heady days of his youth in the Frisco bath houses.

[johnforbes]

The sun has gone down, much like Clownswisher during his deviant, deranged days in darkest Frisco.