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By elklindo69
#130702
WASHINGTON — House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy joined a quick chorus of outrage at Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., on Tuesday after she double-down on her comparison of Covid-19-related rules to the Holocaust.

“Marjorie is wrong, and her intentional decision to compare the horrors of the Holocaust with wearing masks is appalling," McCarthy said in a statement, after larging trying to ignore the controversial lawmakers. "The Holocaust is the greatest atrocity committed in history. The fact that this needs to be stated today is deeply troubling."

McCarthy added, “Americans must stand together to defeat anti-Semitism and any attempt to diminish the history of the Holocaust. Let me be clear: the House Republican Conference condemns this language.”


Good Lawd....if you can't understand the difference between the holocaust and a mask then you don't belong in the H.R. or in civil society, for that fucking matter....
By Clownkicker
#130705
If McCarthy is a RINO, then johnforbes must be a RINO because he also ridicules those who compare Republicans to NAZIs.

Remember how johnny always ridicules any Democrat who compares something a Republican does with being a NAZI?

Well here is Taylor Greene calling Pelosi a NAZI by likening a mask mandate for EVERYONE with making Jews wear yellow Magen Davids on their arms and sending them off to concentration camps. But this time johnforbes just shrugs it off as 'making no sense'. Any other time he ridicules them and calls them dishonest. Notice he didn't call Taylor Greene dishonest, nor did he ridicule her.

Just more of johnny's partisan hypocrisy.
By johnforbes
#130711
Well, I beat all 3 of the Jeopardy champs on FOUR clues tonightt, so my evening has been upbeat.

Now, did that entire kerfuffle unfold on Twitter?

As noted previously, I don't tweet.

However, Clown is apparently a twat who tweets tediously on trivial Twitter topics.
By Clownkicker
#130717
johnny, it didn't "unfold on Twitter," you dishonest twat.

She said it on the Christian Broadcasting Network...where else. That's the sort of nonsense Christians and Republicans perpetrate.

"You know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star, and they were definitely treated like second class citizens, so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany. And this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."-Marjorie Taylor Greene about the House mask mandate

Watch her say it herself, johnny--
https://www.nbc.com/late-night-with-set ... on/4366640
Time stamp 6:45 to 7:05

Feel free to apologize about your unjustifiable ignorance on this one as well, johnny.
By johnforbes
#130718
As stated above, I don't know where this little tempest in a teapot unfolded.

Also, I can't be upset about every little thing all day or my essential Zen core might be disturbed.
By elklindo69
#130726
I'll bet that all of those people who spent years in a basement, hiding from the Nazis, would really appreciate Marjorie Taylor Greene "masks are like the Holocaust" statements.

Perhaps we should ask them...

OH...but wait, we can't.
By Clownkicker
#130730
Once again johnforbes pleads willful ignorance.

And once again his plea is accepted by this forum.



He can't even be bothered to watch 20 seconds of video to keep him from being a mere partisan ignoramus.
By johnforbes
#130736
Every morning, after my situps and arm exercises (the initial round of them), I sip from a coffee mug and watch the mist rise from the lake.

My staffers then fetch a summary of everything posted on the Interwebs.

However, time forbids reading each and every one, or even being informed of every tempest in a teapot about which the Lunatic Left might be upset about on any given day.

That said, I do wish Clown and Elkin all the best on this fine late-May morning.
By johnforbes
#130744
As a pragmatic matter, you can understand that I have to focus like a laser beam on the crucial issues of the day.

So, inevitably, there will be peripheral or trivial issues which won't garner my attention.

If my duties here as free-floating sage were all that I had to accomplish, then perhaps I could deal with every issue, but I also proffer wit and wisdom on other sorts of web sites (most notably financial ones).

Also, I'm debating whether to schedule a trip to Fiji. Would it be worth it, or just another nice tropical place?
By Clownkicker
#130747
And YET AGAIN johnforbes pleads willful ignorance.

And yet again this forum accepts his plea.



Take "we believe you" for an answer already, dimwit.

We absolutely believe you're willfully ignorant, even refusing to watch 20-seconds of video of the person saying what was claimed that they said. You don't need to convince us further.
By johnforbes
#130753
Thank you for understanding the many burdens I shoulder to meet my responsibilities here and elsewhere.

And why do I do so much work, and so selflessly, so admirably?

Well, to help Clown comprehend the world around him.
By Clownkicker
#130756
"You'll forgive the flowery talk, won't you? Our family does so love to be told they are beautiful. Vanity is an old and venerable habit."-john"plagiarismismymiddlename"forbes
By johnforbes
#130785
Old Joe can barefly walk, and certainly can't string together a coherent sentence.

Trump was hardly smooth, but looks like Demosthenes compared to him.
By Clownkicker
#130790
And Biden looks like Demosthenes compared to Taylor Greene and her comparison of mask mandates with the holocaust.

But you don't know what I'm talking about, johnny, because of your willful ignorance.
By Clownkicker
#130801
That sounds like another partisan bullshit study your handlers just made up.


Every scientist and medical doctor in the world KNOWS that mask use results in a reduced spread of an airborn illness.

And if the mask mandates didn't result is less COVID, then it's because Trump and Trump supporters refused to wear masks as mandated and held their super spreader events just to be the assholes they are.
By johnforbes
#130806
No, the study is reportedly from the U of Louisville and found that mask mandates didn't have links to lower covid rates.

What science means is to search for the truth without prior prejudices.
By Clownkicker
#130859
"I know the Univ of Louisville found that mask mandates were not linked to less spread of covid...."-johnforbes


"The one Covid-19 intervention that definitely worked was mask mandates

The evidence on lockdowns may be dicey, but the science on masks is clear: They work. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2129 ... h-evidenceEven experts I spoke with who think harsh lockdowns may have been counterproductive say indoor mask mandates were clearly effective.

“Indoor masking guidance was proven to be effective,” Amesh Adalja, senior scholar at the John Hopkins Center for Health Security, told me. “When you look at it all, I think that is probably going to be the one that shows the most effect. ... Most things can be done safely if people socially distance and wear a mask indoors in an unvaccinated setting.”

The available research supports that conclusion. In a study published in March 2021, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htmCDC researchers examined case and death rates at the county level after mask mandates were put into place and found the mandates were associated with slower transmission.

“Mandating masks was associated with a decrease in daily Covid-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation,” they concluded, and the effect grew the longer the mandates were in place.

An earlier study, published in June 2020 in Health Affairs, https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.13 ... 2020.00818 had reached the same conclusion. Its authors estimated that mask mandates had averted some 200,000 Covid-19 cases by mid-May; at the time, the US had counted less than 2 million cases, indicating that the mask mandates had a meaningful effect in slowing the virus down early in the pandemic."-Vox


Now johnforbes has something to clear up his gross ignorance on the subject of masks and mask mandates....if he can bring himself to slog through that much (to him) laborious reading.

"Follow the science" johnny, as you are wont to say.
By johnforbes
#130864
The article calls the school "John Hopkins," which is a level of ignorance worse than most of Clown's posts.

I believe Clown knows the proper name of that school, which was the first in America to award Ph.D. degrees along the German model.
By Clownkicker
#130866
I see johnforbes still hasn't learned to say "THANK YOU" for my doing his homework for him and relieving him of his chronic ignorance about the efficacy of masks and mask mandates.


You're welcome, johnny.
By Clownkicker
#130878
So you brought up the U of Louisville study knowing its conclusion about mask mandates is incorrect, just so you can be a partisan asshole and defend Trump's gross incompetence like a typical neutered lapdog.

Yes, it's perfectly clear.


As I said, thanks fer nothin', dummy.
By johnforbes
#130897
I have been clear in saying that Clown probably does know the correct name of Hopkins.

In other words, we all know Clown's vast ignorance only extends so far.

Our fairness means that we don't falsely accuse Clown of boundless ignorance -- merely vast.
By elklindo69
#130913
Well guest what.....the state that had the longest mask mandate has guess what???

The lowest COVID-19 positivity rate in the county.

Who would have ever thought................
By johnforbes
#130918
But that isn't the test, is it?

What is the mortality rate by state?

What economic damage was suffered on a state basis?

What are the other consequences (uncaught heart disease and cancer, depression, anxiety, divorce, spousal abuse, bankruptcy, etc)?

Hippocrates said first do no harm in his treatise on epidemics. With lockdowns, we FIRST did harm.
By Clownkicker
#130921
As always, johnforbes is simply making up stupid shit.

Notice he produced no evidence whatsoever that mortality rates were highest in states with mask mandates.

And it's idiotic to claim that mask mandates caused economic damage of any kind. A mask mandate didn't stop a single person from spending money.

And it's even dumber to believe that mask mandates somehow caused heart disease or cancer or depression or (deadly) anxiety or divorces or spousal abuse or bankruptcies.

What a moron. Wearing a mask didn't cause anyone to go bankrupt, dimwit.

Hippocrates said first do no harm in his treatise on epidemics. But did johnforbes' mother listen?

No. She went ahead and had little johnny anyway. And we're all still paying for that impertinence.
By johnforbes
#130933
Yes, the lockdowns did force many small business owners into various forms of failure.

Meanwhile, big box stores with good lobbyists remained open.

So -- as per usual -- Clown is wrong.
By Clownkicker
#130938
"Yes, the lockdowns did force many small business owners into various forms of failure."-johnfoibles

Only no one was talking about lockdowns, you dishonest scumbag. This thread (and every post on it until your dishonest post) is about mask mandates.

When you can't argue the point of discussion, you always try to alter the topic of discussion to something else that you think you can argue. Then you fail at that too.


Your lame attempt to argue something not being discussed doesn't change the fact that mask mandates didn't hurt anyone as you claimed they did. No one went bankrupt or got cancer or got divorced from wearing a mask.

But even your attempt to change the subject isn't tenable because now the vaccines are available and 40% of Trump supporters still refuse to take one. So any financial difficulties they suffer now because of public health measures are their own fault. We could be at full open status if those morons would simply get our vaccination rate up to 90%. (And these Trump-supporting morons are still touting Trump for being responsible for quick development of vaccines, but then they refuse to take avail themselves of the wonderful thing Trump supposedly did for America. You just can't fix stupid hypocrisy. johnforbes is proof of that.)
By johnforbes
#130942
Plastic dividers don't work, and perhaps masks too (see the end):

A leaked Whitehall document seen by Politico suggests that perspex screens installed to stop the transmission of COVID-19 may actually have increased its spread.

Businesses and schools were told by the government to install the screens as a condition of re-opening after the first lockdown and they were widely used by ‘essential’ shops throughout the entire period.

Politico’s Alex Wickham writes that the perspex screens could be about to be scrapped given new information the government has received on their efficacy.

“Ministers are also being advised that those perspex screens that have appeared in some offices and restaurants are unlikely to have any benefit in terms of preventing transmission,” states the report.

“Problems include them not being positioned correctly, with the possibility that they actually increase the risk of transmission by blocking airflow. Therefore there is clear guidance to ministers that these perspex screens should be scrapped.”

Despite the report, government ministers say there is no plan to change advice on installing the screens in businesses.

What other COVID-19 measures put in place to fight the spread of the virus have been utterly useless or actually made it worse?

A study on the effectiveness of face masks involving 6,000 participants in Denmark found “there was no statistically significant difference between those who wore masks and those who did not when it came to being infected by Covid-19.”
By Clownkicker
#130957
See? johnfibs realizes he made a fool of himself with dishonest claims about mask mandates causing bankruptcy and cancer, but rather than admit he is wrong, he simply drags out another piece of irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with mask mandates or Taylor-Greene's lies about Pelosi being a Nazi.

johnforbes has nothin' but dishonest diversions, as always.
By Clownkicker
#130975
"Plastic dividers" are not masks, johnny.

This thread is about masks and mask mandates. You keep trying to change the subject because you made a fool of yourself.

But even you now realize how stupid you were to believe that mask mandates caused cancer and bankruptcies.

You're welcome, dimwit. I'll continue to chip away at your partisan willful ignorance.
By johnforbes
#130997
Plastic dividers are not masks. Yes, we all know that.

But they were part and parcel of the irrational leftist authoritarian regime imposed for more than a year.

And with no science supporting them.

Pray tell, what science supported beach/park closures?

Even Fauci admitted in Feb 2020 that the virus was too small for masks to stop, didn't he? Why yes he did in email.

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