[elklindo69]

Apparently Limbaugh who claimed that the danger of secondhand cigarette smoke is nonsense and harmless is dead from lung cancer caused by smoking....

Now that Limbaugh is dead, there is still no need for conservatives to worry.....you still have Trump, Hannity and Carlson so all of the race baiting and woman hating will continue on as usual.

[johnforbes]

The Left's hatred is out of control.

The ballot rejection rate in the Nov 2020 election was THIRTY TIMES LESS THAN USUAL, which was a huge red flag suggesting fraud.

So now a political hack is installed, and he is stumbling through his 49th year in The Swamp, and yet young Elkin seems morose.

[elklindo69]

If Limbaugh wanted his death to be met with universal declarations of respect then he shouldn’t have spent his life being a toxic asshole and a scumbag.

[Clownkicker]

"The ballot rejection rate in the Nov 2020 election was THIRTY TIMES LESS THAN USUAL, which was a huge red flag suggesting fraud."-johnflubs

And yet johnforbes has not criticized Republicans running those key states for not being able to run trustworthy elections.

Five of the six key states have Republican legislatures. Most have Republican Secretaries of State. And yet johnfibs insists these Republicans cannot be trusted to run secure elections. Why does johnforbes continue to vote Republican when he thinks they are all incompetent? He doesn't trust Democrats OR Republicans running our elections.

He has yet to tell us who he thinks SHOULD run our elections, effectively being a Trump supporter who thinks the military should run our elections (as if that would or could make them one iota more secure.)

The election is over. It was certified. It was secure according to investigations by AG Barr and the secretaries of state. It was legal as shown by over 60 lawsuits that were either thrown out of court or decided against Trump. It was legal according to SCOTUS. And not one person found any evidence whatsoever proving any fraud occurred. Not even Trump himself or his lawyers could produce any.

But we will still have to listen to johnforbes impotently whine about it for the next four years. Give it a rest, johnny. You are embarrassing yourself.

[sillydaddy]

For decades, Limbaugh was a burr under the horse blanket of the Left...
May he rest in peace...

[brandon]

Limbaugh was just another propagandist like any other. He uniquely understood how to appeal to a specific demographic and run interference for the business and political classes. That's really all.

[johnforbes]

Nobody can even argue the fact that PA violated its own election law, Act 77. The PA Sup Ct had no power to change voting because the US Constitution gave that to the PA legislature.

Michigan disqualified more voters in January 2021 than Biden's margin in Nov 2020.

As Newsweek pointed out, the biased media and the mail ballots "fortified" the Left's efforts to get senile Biden in.

[Clownkicker]

"Nobody can even argue the fact that PA violated its own election law, Act 77."-johnflubs

You're right, johnny, nobody can argue it. Not even you.

The Trump supporters who sued over it lost in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, so obviously they couldn't argue it. The Supreme Court is the final arbiter of the disagreement and it's settled, like it or not, and they know more about it than you do. This is America where we accept the rulings of our courts and move on.

What's your point? What has any of this got to do with a dead doper and dirt bag?

[johnforbes]

Clown, you continue to misunderstand.

This isn't a matter of politics.

No matter what the PA Sup Ct said, it doesn't and can't rise above the US Constitution which gives power over elections to the state legislature -- NOT the state governor or sec of state.

This is not a disagreement about politics, and you are plenty smart enough to understand this point.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you continue to misunderstand.

This isn't a matter of politics. And that's why I haven't once argued the politics of the issue. Not once.

I have only argued the legal side of the issue. If Trump had won in the PA Supreme Court, unlike you, I would accept their ruling and never bring it up again.

You are not a legal expert on PA election law. You have no standing before the PA Bar. You arer not a citizen of PA. You have no expertise in the area of PA law you keep bringing up pointlessly. The final authority on PA election law (which absolutely WAS set by the PA General Assembly as required by the Constitution) is the PA Supreme Court.

The PA Supreme Court settled the issue of PA election law, as it falls within their legal purview. It's over. Shut up about it already. Nobody likes a sore loser...except Trump supporters, obviously.

The only reason you keep bringing it up is because to you it IS about politics. You lost and you don't like it because of the politics involved.

This is not a disagreement about politics. It's about the law, and the law is settled by the final authority in Pennsylvania, and you are plenty smart enough to understand this point but you keep whining about it anyway.

And I predict you are going to continue to whine about it. Just watch.......

[johnforbes]

Actually, you are wrong on a number of counts in that, including bar status in that jurisdiction (an easy one many prefer to nearby, tougher DC, but I digress).

I'm just surprised that you don't know the supremacy of the federal part in our system.

Even as a non-lawyer, I thought you had the ability to understand.

Just to be polite, I'll repeat that the PA Sup Ct extended by 3 days, but had no right to do so given the US Constitution handing such power to the state legislature and not to the governor, sec of state, state Sup Ct., or the man in the moon.

It is a simple and correct point, and has nothing to do with politics.

It isn't

[Clownkicker]

Actually, you are wrong on a number of counts, johnny.

I'm just surprised that you know the supremacy of the federal part in our system but still choose to ignore it.

As even johforbes knows, the PA case was put before the federal part of our court system--the U.S. Supreme Court--and they saw no Constitutional reason to consider throwing out the certified PA results. This comes directly from such conservative legal giants as Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch, and Amy Coney Barrett. Many are "the best people" according to Trump himself. But johnforbes is now convinced they are NOT "the best people" and are in fact spineless weasels--just one more of Trump's and the Republican Party's many failures. But what are ya gonna do? They're there now and he must live with it.

johnforbes is STILL whining about their decision just as I predicted he would. He simply refuses to accept the final decisions of our courts, and this after claiming to be an officer of the court himself. You do realize such contempt can get you thrown in jail or even disbarred, right? You are not allowed to ignore decisions of the court the way you are doing now.

Just to be polite, I'll repeat that the PA Sup Ct did not extend voting by 3 days and they had the legal right to interpret the execution of the election laws passed by the state legislature as they saw it. That is their job; to interpret the law and render legal opinions about it.

The General Assembly has not started a recall of any Justices on the Court alleging any misconduct or malfeasance, nor have they passed any new, more restrictive election laws to ensure that such confusion can't happen again. They have accepted the ruling of their Court while johnforbes mysteriously does not.

The federal U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the challenge to the certified PA election results, apparently finding them either without merit or outside their purview.

The federal U.S. Congress certified the votes of the Electoral College and finalized the election for Biden. It's settled.

It is a simple and correct point, and has nothing to do with politics. It's about the law, johnny. Stop continuing to make it about your whiny-little-bitch politics. According to U.S. law, Biden won. If you don't understand that simple fact, you wasted your time in law school. But continuing to whine about it won't get you that wasted time back. You pissed it away forever.

I hope you don't end up in jail over this political nonsense you're focused on, johnny. You'll find judges tend to lack a sense of humor for those who refuse to accept their rulings. Especially when they are officers of the court.

[johnforbes]

The notion of equal protection in terms of voting came from what source? The Sup Ct.

The TX case was good, and would have been a hot potato dropped in the laps of people who apparently were more interested in being called "Justice" rather than actually providing justice.

Yes, the PA Sup Ct did extend voting by 3 days in contravention of Act 77 and without authority under the US Constitution.

Those are just facts.

[Clownkicker]

Again, johnfibs is simply lying because he knows perfectly well that the Supreme Court only allowed ballots cast by 8:00 p.m. on election day to be counted. Voting absolutely was not extended even one day, let alone three days.

If a ballot wasn't voted and postmarked by the legal end of election day, they were not counted.

But other than repeating that purely political lie, johnforbes couldn't refute a thing I said with any contrary facts. Which is johnny's way of capitulating to my undeniable reasoning. Notice he couldn't argue against anything I actually said.

This isn't a matter of politics, johnny, so stop repeating your political Trumpian lies that have been debunked repeatedly.

Stop yer sour-grapes whining, fer gawds sake.

[divermouse]

ohio 2004 because they care soooo much about truth.

[sillydaddy]

If a ballot wasn't voted and postmarked by the legal end of election day, they were not counted.

There are witnesses who said that was not being followed....that's why it was called "fraud".

[Clownkicker]

"There are witnesses who said that was not being followed....that's why it was called "fraud"."-sillydummy

Then why didn't Trump's lawyers ever produce even one of them in court when asked by the judge for evidence of fraud?

Think about it, dummy.

[johnforbes]

No judge has ever held an evidentiary hearing on that election fraud material.

acta deos numquam mortalia fallunt

[Clownkicker]

johnny, a judge absolutely DID ask Giuliani for evidence of fraud.

Giuliani's answer? He wasn't alleging any fraud. And this is because the Trump team had no evidence of fraud to present.

No judge can hear what a plaintiff refuses to bring before him, now can he.

[johnforbes]

No court in the land has held an evidentiary hearing on this.

Democats really, really should have wanted his so that Biden could be viewed as legit.

But Democrats do NOT want an election audit of the key swing states because they ALL violated their own election laws.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, please stop your political whining.

Most of the swing states are run by Republicans. There is nothing any Democrats can do in those states to force an audit.

If Republicans wanted to do the audits, they could have, but they didn't because there was no actionable evidence of any fraud. Even Trump's campaign people said Trump didn't lose because of fraud, and they analyzed everything about it.

What part of that is so hard for you to understand? This is not about politics. It's about the law and the law is settled. The election is over according to the Constitution and all legal authorities.

Well, all except for the incessant partisan whining about the guys who can't do anything about it, of course. But you don't whine about all the Republicans responsible for the key elections. You only whine about Democrats, and that makes it political to you.

This is not about politics.

[johnforbes]

No, this is about the law -- not politics.

No court in the land has held an evidentiary hearing on this.

Democats really, really should have wanted his so that Biden could be viewed as legit.

But Democrats do NOT want an election audit of the key swing states because they ALL violated their own election laws.

[Clownkicker]

No, this is not about the law -- it's about politics. The law is settled on this. Only partisan political whining remains.

No court in the land has held an evidentiary hearing on this because no Republicans could produce any evidence to take to any court.

Republicans really, really didn't want this because they know constant lies (in place of the truth that the election was fair) would make Biden look illegitimate in the eyes of your typical dunderheaded Trump supporter. And this delusional mindset among Republicans would be very useful to manipulating Republicans in future elections.

But Republican do NOT want an election audit of the key swing states because they are mostly run by Republicans and they have done nothing to get an audit in any of them. Why won't a single one of these Republicans start a useless audit? What are they so afraid of?

[johnforbes]

No, that is simply not factual.

There is plenty of evidence, but no court has wanted to hold an evidentiary hearing on the merits.

And why, well because their fellow Democrat Biden managed to "win."

The Texas equal protection case was powerful, and based on the Court's own reasoning in its own precedent.

TX did have a judicially cognizable interest in whether other states, like PA and GA, violated their own election laws, which they did.

[Clownkicker]

This is not a matter of politics, johnny.

Why do you keep whining about settled law? You will be held in contempt.

You don't seem to understand the concept of living with the decisions of our courts. It's settled.

You keep making it about your politics instead.

[johnforbes]

Again, this is not political, but a matter of understanding.

There's no "settled law" here because no substantive ruling was ever issued on the merits.

[elklindo69]

Well there were no "merits" to begin with in the first place.

And after getting sued by smartmatic Fox News went and aired multiple segments which debunked their hosts who peddled Ghouiliani's nonsensical bullshit.

Interestingly enough.....Ghouliani spent weeks fleeing the people who were serving him the lawsuit.

[johnforbes]

It is an opinion that there were no merits.

But the law operates to test that in court. That is the legal system we have.

Hundreds of sworn affidavits were available, but never introduced as evidence.

The normal ballot rejection rate runs 2 or 3 percent. In 2020, with enormously larger mail ballots coming in, the ballot rejection rate dropped by 30 times, showing that ballots were accepted if for Biden.

There were many unanswered questions with Dominion/Smartmatic.

But the larger point is that Democrats should WANT full scrutiny of this so Biden is viewed as legit.

[Clownkicker]

"... the ballot rejection rate dropped by 30 times, showing that ballots were accepted if for Biden."-johnflubs

johnny just admitted he believes Biden got 30 times the number of votes Trump got. Otherwise, if Trump and Biden were getting roughly the same number of votes, and all the Biden votes were not rejected, the rejection rate would have dropped by just "half". If Trump had been getting twice the votes of Biden, then the rejection rate would have dropped by just "one third".

What a dimwit.

It's like johnny's belief that there have been over two billion cases of COVID in the U.S. because he still believes there were 85 times the number of infections compared to the number of positive tests.

I'm sorry to hear you got COVID six times last year, johnny.

Simple math is beyond your typical Trump supporter.

[johnforbes]

No, there is a normal ballot rejection rate with mail voting.

Mail voting has many problems, as outlined by the NY Times and Senators Warren and Klobuchar in 2020.

There were MORE mail ballots in November 2020, and so the ballot rejection rate should have been higher, but it was 30 times lower which shows that all iffy ballots went to Biden because of the secret vote-counting by Democrat vote counters in Democrat areas like Phily and Detroit.

[Clownkicker]

"There were MORE mail ballots in November 2020, and so the ballot rejection rate should have been higher,..."-johnfibs

No, dummy, the "ballot rejection rate" would be expected to remain constant. There is no reason to think the "ballot rejection rate" would go up. There is no reason to think the 100 people would exhibit a higher rate of carelessness or dishonesty than 10 people do. If one in ten were rejected previously, then ten in one hundred would be expected to be rejected with a larger sample.

You understand nothing about statistics.

As to your made up factoid about a "30 times less rejection rate"-- you made it up. As I said, there would have to be 30 times the number of ballots voted for Biden in order to reject 30 times fewer ballots if all Biden ballots were passed through. And you aren't willing to admit that Biden got 30 times more votes than Trump, so give it up already.

Your regurgitating partisan propaganda from your handlers only works to convince dimwitted Trump supporters. It doesn't work on intelligent and rational people.

[johnforbes]

Of course the ballot rejection rate would go up -- far up -- because tons of people unfamiliar with mail voting did it for the first time in Nov 2020.

The normal ballot rejection rate was known, and at bare minimum should have remained roughly the same.

But ballots were rejected at THIRTY TIMES LESS THAN USUAL, meaning ALMOS ALL BALLOTS FOR BIDEN WERE ACCEPTED.

Why? Because this happened in inner city pro-Democrat areas, and the vote-counters were mostly Dems.

[Clownkicker]

"But ballots were rejected at THIRTY TIMES LESS THAN USUAL, meaning ALMOS ALL BALLOTS FOR BIDEN WERE ACCEPTED."-johnfibs

There is no more evidence that almost all ballots for Biden were accepted than there is for almost all ballots for TRUMP being accepted. It could just as easily been a few Trump supporters counting ballots who passed through all Trump ballots and only rejected Biden ballots to account for the lower rejection rate, right? After all, I provided exactly as much evidence to support my speculation as you provided for your ludacrous speculative assertion.

But the fact is most states reject from .5% to 3% of their mail-in ballots, with the average rejection rate of all states being roughly 1%. Presumably about half of those rejections would be Republican ballots, so the average Democrat ballot rejection rate would be about .5% of all mail-in ballots. You cannot have a "30 times lower rejection rate" when comparing the rate to one half of 1%, dummy. Even if 100% of those .5% for Biden were passed through, this would still only give you a maximum of ".5 times lower rejection rate of all mail-in ballots."

A "30 times lower rejection rate" of half a percent of ballots is mathematically impossible unless you would actually GIVE Biden 15% more fraudulent ballots than the total number of ballots sent out, and we know from AG Barr and Republican Secretaries of state that there is no evidence of any massive ballot fraud of that sort that could have changed the election results.


"Why? Because this happened in inner city pro-Democrat areas, and the vote-counters were mostly Dems."-johnfibs

This is just one more ignorant and childish lie johnforbes simply made up. For a manual count, ballot counters everywhere are always 50/50 Republican and Democrat in all states, and a Republican and a Democrat looks at each ballot that is counted and they must agree on who received each vote. Neither party would have it any other way. To say that states run by Republicans allowed 90% or 80% or even 70% of vote counters to be Democrats (even in majority Democrat areas) is a lie so stupid that only a Trump supporter could believe it.

Stop making up stupid shit and accept reality, johnny. After all, that's what a Reality Czar is supposed to do.

[sillydaddy]

The reality is the Demos stole the election... you know it, we all know it.

[Clownkicker]

The reality is that all Republicans actually know Democrats didn't steal anything...this according to their own party representatives, including ultra-conservative Republican Trump appointee AG Barr, Republican Georgia Gov. Kemp who built his reputation on fighting election fraud, Republican Arizona Gov. Ducey, Republican Secretaries of State in the key swing states, CISA, and the three ultra-conservative Trump appointees on the U.S. Supreme Court who were confirmed by the Republican controlled Senate.

All Republicans know it, you know it, we all know it.

[johnforbes]

The GA and AZ governors were RINOs, as they amply proved in the election debacle.

Alas, the 3 Trump appointees to the US Sup Ct were not only not very conservative, and it remains to be seen if they are even conservative.

With a lifetime job, they are likely to join the Georgetown wine and cheese party circuit as Roberts did and become liberals.

Of the three, only Gorsuch would have heard the valid TX case of equal protection, and he has already wandered off into inventing new rights for trans folks.

[Clownkicker]

See, even johnforbes knows it.

That's why he is resorting to impotent ad hominem attacks.

He's got nothing else. He knows he's beaten.

[johnforbes]

The average rug has not been beaten as often as Clownslacker.

The GA and AZ governors were RINOs, as they amply proved in the election debacle.

Alas, the 3 Trump appointees to the US Sup Ct were not only not very conservative, and it remains to be seen if they are even conservative.

With a lifetime job, they are likely to join the Georgetown wine and cheese party circuit as Roberts did and become liberals.

Of the three, only Gorsuch would have heard the valid TX case of equal protection, and he has already wandered off into inventing new rights for trans folks.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes has been beaten more your average teenager's dick.


Look at how he squirms when he knows he's beaten. Nothing but mindless repetition of partisan lies.

johnforbes is a lot like Goebbels, as some wise man said recently.

[327retro]

Apparently Limbaugh who claimed that the danger of secondhand cigarette smoke is nonsense and harmless is dead from lung cancer caused by smoking....

Now that Limbaugh is dead, there is still no need for conservatives to worry.....you still have Trump, Hannity and Carlson so all of the race baiting and woman hating will continue on as usual.

It never ceases to amaze me at how much unfounded hatred is put forth by the left. Every time they look in the mirror they don't see there own black evil hearts reflecting back. That evil scares the crap out of you doesn't it. So you have to project that on people better than you don't you. You know people that actually think for themselves. It's not really a novel concept, some of you should really try it. Read some real History not your revisionist crap.

Elklindo, look up how may people die from lung cancer that never smoked in there lives. Your black heart prejudices just proves once again how ill educated you are and how unfounded hatred rules your sad life. We'll pray for you. Some day you may wake up to reality. G'Day

[Clownkicker]

But Limbaugh DID smoke, didn't he. So it isn't prejudice at all to attribute his lung cancer to smoking, is it.

It never ceases to amaze me at how much unfounded hatred and denial of the facts is put forth by the Right. Every time they look in the mirror they don't see there own black evil hearts reflecting back. That evil scares the crap out of you doesn't it. So you have to project that on people better than you don't you. You know people that actually think for themselves. It's not really a novel concept, some of you should really try it. Read some real History not your revisionist crap.

365retard, look up how may people die from lung cancer, people who, like Limbaugh, smoked in there lives. Your black heart prejudices just proves once again how ill educated you are and how unfounded hatred rules your sad life. We'll pity you. Some day you may wake up to reality. G'Day



"...Limbaugh has previously stated that he began smoking cigarettes in his teens and quit during his 30s. In 2015, he questioned the association between smoking and cancer. Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar.
The science is clear: Smoking causes cancer. About 80% to 90% of all lung cancer deaths are related to smoking."-Cancer Health

There is no prejudice in elklindo's post as 365retard wants to pretend. Limbaugh did smoke and like the dishonest fool he was, scoffed at those who say smoking causes cancer. 365retard's knee-jerk hatred of reality just automatically rears its ugly head if anyone points out the hypocrisy of his dimwitted hate-filled heroes.

[johnforbes]

Clowntoker is wrong.

No photo has been taken of Rush "today" puffing on a cigar.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes, as always, is a liar and an ignoramus.

Of course I never said any "photo has been taken of Rush "today" puffing on a cigar." johnfibs made it up as he makes up all the humorless stupid shit he posts.

If johnforbes could read his mother tongue at more than a 6th grade level, he would understand that they said "Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar." This is absolutely true today, just as it was true yesterday and will be true tomorrow.

To see that it's true, all johnforbes needs to do today is look at a broad selection of photographs of Limbaugh, and he will see that quite a few of them depict Limbaugh sucking on your typical closeted conservative's phallic replacement that johnforbes is so envious of.

[johnforbes]

To quote Clown: "Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar."

But that is false.

Rush is dead and puffing on nothing.

Nevertheless, it is true that Clown "puffed" on many things during his disgraceful decade of decadent deeds in the depths of Frisco.

[Clownkicker]

To quote myself "johnforbes, as always, is a liar and an ignoramus."

I absolutely did not say what he claims I said. Someone else said it, you lying sack of shit, as my post makes clear.

Regardless, what I posted is still not false as johnfibs dishonestly claims. Today photographs often depict Limbaugh puffing on a cigar, as anyone can see by simply googling images of Limbaugh today, so my post is absolutely correct and accurate.

Sadly, johnfibs' posts are as solidly factual as a bag of runny turds.

[johnforbes]

The record is clear.

Clown said: "Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar."

But that is false.

Rush is dead and puffing on nothing today.

It would appear that Clown has puffed too much pot himself.

[Clownkicker]

"The record is clear.

Clown said: "Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar.""-johnfibs


The record is clear.

I never said any such thing, and johnny knows it.

He knows it, and being a Trump supporter, he continues to lie about it anyway. It's what Republicans do.

[johnforbes]

The record shows, that Clown took the blows, and did it his way.

There were times, I'm sure you knew, when Clown bit off more than he could chew,

But was in the baths of Frisco,

When there were more guys than he could blew...

[Clownkicker]

See? When you catch johnny in a lie, all he can do is resort to his prancing, fancy pants, flaming queen routine.


Please, johnny, keep it down at your local drag club. Nobody here subscribes to your closeted deviant lifestyle.

[johnforbes]

Threads come and go, but this one has genuine merit.

Clown said: "Even so, today photographs often depict him puffing on a cigar."

But that is false.

Rush is dead and puffing on nothing today.