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#129069
Will the hate-drenched johnforbes apologize for his latest lie? Of course not.


And look at RealTool lying again. Will he never learn? It never happened, dimwit. The company who supplied the facial recognition software said it didn't identify any ANTIFA.


But RealTool will continue to claim that the Air Force veteran who was shot and died inside the Capitol was ANTIFA.

And the guy who sat in Pelosi's desk and stole from it. Tool is claiming he's ANTIFA too.

And the guys carrying the Confederate flag inside the Capitol, something that never occurred even during the Civil War, Tool claims they are ANTIFA too.

And the thug who hit the police officer with the fire extinguisher and killed him. The guy on video using it just before the assault happened. RealTool claims he's ANTIFA.

And the guy who carried off the podium grinning like an imbecile, Tool claims he's ANTIFA as well.

And all the morons wearing MAGA hats and climbing the walls, breaking windows, and crawling into windows. Tool claims they are all ANTIFA as well.

In fact, RealTool, along with johnforbes, now believes that all the thousands of people attending the Trump rally and then marauding down to the Capitol and breaking in are all ANTIFA. We all know Trump doesn't have any actual supporters. They are all paid by Soros to dress up in stupid hats and cheer for Trump, apparently.

Tool, there is no video of anyone identified as ANTIFA inside the Capitol. You're passing on debunked Trump bullshit. The actual Trump supporters who perpetrated this atrocity are being identified by police, will be arrested, and will be prosecuted. You should have learned by now that lying here about who they are is pointless. It doesn't help your case that many of them have long-standing social media accounts containing their Trump/Qanon nutjob conspiracy theories.
#129084
Who cares what "some" did, johnny? It doesn't make the looting and destruction okay. "Some" stayed outside and peacefully protested. So what?

We are upset by those who broke in and destroyed property and threatened our elected representatives. "Some" of those who just walked in took part in the destruction.

Why are you so desperately trying to justify what occurred at the Capitol, johnny? There IS no justification.
#129090
I think it more likely that TRUMP's cowardice set them off.

First he told his supporters "we" will walk down to the Capitol, emphasizing that he would be with them. Then the gutless coward slithered away and left his supporters to do what he lacked the balls to do.

To be fair, Trump's bone spurs probably acted up and he couldn't walk that far. And he couldn't even walk to his limo to ride down to the Capitol. The bone spurs were that bad.

When the Trump supporters got there and found Trump had abandoned them, I guess they got pissed at his cowardice and went on a rampage.

Pence finally grew a pair and told Trump there was nothing he could do to alter the election outcome, which was absolutely true. But Trump and his supporters (you among them) don't care about facts and truth.) The election was over when the Electoral College voted. You know that. Everyone knows that. But being a partisan hack, you don't care.
#129091
Feds aren't buying the BLM member who broke into the Capital through the window "just so he could document the crimes by the Trump supporters" He's on youtube saying we're going to burn it all down.

Several Antifa members led the charge on the Capital along with BLM members. I knew sooner of later they would start working together.
#129092
So you're condemning all those who broke into the Capitol and destroyed property and threatened our elected representatives, Tool?

That's a simple question any good American can answer with a "yes" or a "no".

But can a Trump supporter answer it? Let's watch, shall we?

Remember, it's a trick question. If you say it's okay for Trump supporters to be there you are also saying it's okay for the one BLM observer to be there and that he did nothing wrong. But you can't do that, can you. You still want to figure out how to blame one black guy for all the mayhem and destruction Trump and his supporters caused.

Try as hard as you like to deny Trump's supporters did anything wrong, dummy. But the Feds will be prosecuting all your friends soon enough.
#129102
It is more than slightly obvious that breaking in was not only wrong but also illegal.

Obviously, though, this was planned by Antifa/BLM.

They are looking for the guy who planted the pipe bombs and he will surely turn out to be Antifa rather than some Trump voter.

The Left ignored violence throughout 2020 in Chicago, Portland, DC, Baltimore, LA, etc, and CNN and other leftist outlets repeatedly said such protests were "mostly peaceful" when they were not.
#129106
FBI says there is ‘no indication’ that antifa took part in U.S. Capitol riot

The FBI said Friday that there was no indication that individuals associated with antifa disguised themselves among pro-Trump supporters in order to provoke the mob at the U.S. Capitol.

Earlier this week, Republican Reps. Matt Gaetz, Mo Brooks and Paul Gosar had suggested that the left-wing extremist group tried to frame Trump supporters.



Woman killed in Capitol was Trump supporter who embraced conspiracy theories

Social media profiles connected to Ashli Babbitt were almost singularly focused on radical conservative topics and conspiracy theories.


Ashli Babbitt, the woman who was shot and killed Wednesday in the riot in the halls of the U.S. Capitol, apparently by Capitol Police, was an ardent supporter of President Donald Trump and a follower and promoter of many well-known radical conservative activists as well as leaders of the QAnon conspiracy theory movement, according to her social media profiles.

Babbitt, 35, had come to Washington to protest Trump’s election defeat, her brother-in-law Justin Jackson told NBC San Diego.

Babbitt was an Air Force veteran who was a decorated security forces controller and served multiple Middle East tours from 2004 to 2016, according to Air Force records.

She also owned a pool service and supply business with her husband, according to her now-deleted Facebook page.
#129107
So johnny's only argument is that Trump supporters are so stupid they will do whatever BLM and ANTIFA tell them to do. Not a strong case, dimwit.

Well, johnny, I admit, they ARE that stupid. But how did ANITFA/BLM manipulate Trump into giving a speech inciting the violence? They couldn't have manipulated all those Trump supporters without Trump doing the dirty work for them.

Nothing would have happened if Trump hadn't made that speech and sent them down with the lie that he would be with them.

Curiously, you are pissing yourself over Biden's plagiarism decades ago but you don't care at all about such a huge lie from Trump just this week.
#129110
Not in that speech he didn't.

He waited for hours until after everyone left the building.

You're still making up stupid shit. And you couldn't answer the simple question about whether you think those inside the Capitol did anything wrong or not. Yes or no. So simple even you should be able to answer it without making up any more stupid shit.
#129111
Ooooops there it is. BLM was involved in the attack on the Capital, difference is Trump supporters were invited in by police, BLM broke in.

This BLM member busted out a window and entered the Capital building with 3 other black guys who escaped arrest, he wasn't so lucky.
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#129112
John Sullivan, an activist from Utah, joined supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. He said he was trying to document what happened.

There’s no evidence that Sullivan “incited (the) insurgence” alone amid a crowd of thousands. Video he uploaded online shows his perspective as he filmed.

Sullivan denied any affiliation to the broad antifa coalition, although he has posted related hashtags on his Twitter accounts. There remains no legitimate evidence that the mob at the Capitol was infiltrated or led by antifa activists in disguise.


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... tivist-an/
#129114
Is that the same investigative agency which used a fake dossier, stamped it verified, and used it to lie to the FISA court to wiretap the Trump campaign?

The same one which informed Mueller ten days in that there was no evidence of Russia collusion but he kept it going another 2 years?

The same one which had Hunter's laptop and exculpatory evidence, but allowed Trump to be impeached for a Ukraine quid pro quo which Biden actually did?
#129127
House GOP leader tells members to quit spreading lies on riot, antifa

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told members of his GOP conference on a call Monday that the riot at the Capitol was not caused by antifa, urging lawmakers not to further spread misinformation about the pro-Trump mob that stormed the House and Senate last week.

“McCarthy told all members on the call that he has been receiving FBI briefings and it is clear that antifa was not behind this,” one source familiar with the call said. “That it was in fact right-wing extremists and QAnon adherents, and he urged members to stop spreading false information to the contrary.”

McCarthy’s comments come in the wake of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who made the unsubstantiated claim on the House floor that antifa was behind the violence that broke out at the Capitol on Wednesday after the riot took place in an attempt to delay the official count of Electoral College votes.

McCarthy told his members it was determined to be right-wing extremists and supporters of the QAnon conspiracy theory, which revolves around the idea that President Trump is working to expose an elite group of Democrats and media who are running an international child trafficking ring and controlling the government to try to undermine the president.

The FBI said on Friday that it determined that no members of the left-wing movement antifa were involved in the storming of the Capitol.

“We have no indication of that at this time,” Washington Field Office assistant director Steven D'Antuono said when asked about any potential involvement of antifa last week.

Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Michael Sherwin separately also said last week that investigators had not seen evidence of antifa's presence.
#129134
Those are the same trustworthy sources which hid Hunter's laptop since Dec 2019.

Had voters known about the evidence of corruption, perhaps Biden would have lost and it would never have been necessary to set the vote ratios in Dominion machines to assure Joe Briben's "win"?
#129144
I was at home watching TV, looking for you in the mob, johnny; someone tall and not too bright looking, soaked in righteous indignity, wearing moldy boots, and grunting and pumping his fist in the air every time Trump said something inflammatory. When Giuliani sent you off to a "trial by combat" you nearly shit yourself with excitement.

There were a number of people fitting that general description so it's hard to say that I saw you. That was the only time any Trump supporters have ever bothered to wear masks because they were knowingly engaged in criminal behavior no different from the BLM looters (except worse) and didn't want to be identified by law enforcement.

Unless you were that moron with the shit-eating grin carrying away Pelosi's podium?
#129176
"...One person arrested on weapons charges was not a Trump supporter.

Leslie Grimes and two fellow antifa members drove to Washington from Michigan to counterdemonstrate during the Trump rally. According to one of Grimes' friends, the group walked around for a while but returned to the car after Grimes was roughed by some Trump supporters.

As the trio were getting into the car, they were surrounded by officers who said someone had reported that they were seen "putting weapons in the trunk," according to a video of the encounter posted on Facebook.

One of the three denied that there were any weapons in the car, but officers found a handgun in the trunk.

Grimes was taken into custody on a charge of possessing an unlicensed gun after she told the officers the firearm belonged to her. She spent the night in jail, but authorities declined to move forward with charges, according to her attorney.

The friend said he does not understand how police knew there was a gun in the car.

"It was in the trunk the whole time," the friend said. "How would they know? It doesn't make any sense."

When asked why they brought a gun to Washington, the friend said that was a question for Grimes. "We tried to talk her out of it," he said.

Grimes did not respond to a request for comment. She posted a message on her Facebook page two days after the incident.

"I wonder if the D.C. Police feel silly arresting me with a literal insurrection going on," she wrote.

It was not clear why the case was dropped.

A police spokesperson said she did not have specifics about the case, and the D.C. Superior Court did not return a message seeking comment.
..." From a posted Yahoo article Jan.13th

I guess the police determined they were just a group of curious tourists :laugh: :laugh:
#129177
"I guess the police determined they were just a group of curious tourists."-sillydummy

You mean like you are pretending the hundreds of rioting Trump supporters were just peaceful "curious tourists"?

Here we see another Trump supporter (sillydummy) desperately trying to blame the whole Trump insurrection riot on Antifa. And his evidence for his belief? Two people who were not armed and didn't go into the Capitol were arrested because they left a gun in their trunk.

Proof positive that it was all Antifa's fault, eh? Meanwhile, silly doesn't give a shit about the dozens of Trump supporters who carried various weapons and wore combat armor in the crowd. I guess they were simply making a Trump fashion statement. They didn't expect to riot. Of course not.

sillydummy can't explain the mystery of the hundreds of Trump supporters who climbed the walls and those who broke into the Capitol with zip-tie handcuffs and body armor. They were just peaceful protesters who Antifa somehow goaded on and shoved in the windows, forcing them to maraud through the Capitol destroying property and searching for elected representatives to terrorize. It must have been some sort of nefarious Antifa mind control, like Scientology or something. Apparently no one can resist their superior brainwashing techniques that turn a peaceful crowd of mentally challenged Qanon conspiracy believers into destructive zombies carrying Confederate flags and beating and killing police officers.

It is appalling the Trump supporters like sillydummy still refuse to take responsibility for their actions and are trying to pretend that they are simply tools unfairly manipulated by wily Antifa masterminds when in fact they are simply garden variety tools easily manipulated by a would-be populist dictator who was actually there riling them up and telling them to "fight like hell." And his lawyer who told them to start a "trial by combat."

Oh no, that had no effect on them whatsoever, the little lambs. It was those three devious, all powerful Antifa people that somehow made them do it. Trump supporters can't possibly be held accountable for their actions when three Antifa people are somewhere in the crowd. Trump supporters are THAT impressionable. They just can't help it if they commit crimes against America.
#129181
Elkin makes a valid point about the extreme corruption in modern America.

Hillary -- a Yale Law grad -- knew very well she was contravening 18 USC 793, but she correctly felt she could get away with it.

And the level of partisan bias displayed by Strzok, Page, Ohr, Comey, McCabe, et alia helped her do that.
#129200
he FBI has arrested anarchist leader John Sullivan of Utah for inciting the riot in the U.S. Capitol. He was quoted as saying, "We got to rip Trump from office" and "It's time for a revolution." Films showed Sullivan agitating the crowd and encouraging violence. Sullivan is the founder of an organization called Insurgence USA.…
#129204
"FBI has arrested anarchist leader John Sullivan of Utah for inciting the riot in the U.S. Capitol."-johnflubs

Is that the alias Trump is using these days?


The guy you're blaming for the Trump-supporter riot said “we about to burn this s___ down,” “we got to rip Trump out of office..."

And you think that's what the Trump supporters were trying to do? "rip Trump out of office"? You honestly think that's why they rioted? Because someone said 'Let's get rid of Trump'?

And they just happened to have their body armor on and their Confederate flags with them?

Sometimes (all times) you just don't make any sense, johnny.

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