[johnforbes]

Not allowing bipartisan observation of vote counting is one main indicator of fraud.

In Philly, a lawyer for Trump is seening walking down the street after the lady in charge and asking her for a meeting.

She has been filmed talking to Biden lawyers, but ignores the other side.

Corruption.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, no candidate has an inherent right to have their own personal observers in the count room. Both parties have observers in the room already.

To allow more people into the count room makes the process LESS secure, not more secure.

More people, particularly personally partisan people, make it more likely that ballots can be tampered with. More people also increase the risk to officials' health with the Trump superspreader campaign workers entering the room. They must also keep at least six feet away from other workers, so there isn't a lot they could see with ballot evaluation anyway.

Talking to lawyers outside the count area while refusing to talk to campaign workers of the other side does not indicate anything relevant, dummy. You can be sure that if lawyers from the Trump campaign showed up with a legal issue it would be addressed, especially by the Republicans running things.

But again, no individual candidate has any right to have their own personal observers in the count room. But you knew that already. You are simply being a hypocritical partisan asshole and trying to stir up controversy where there is none. The self-described Trump "herd mentality" responds well to phony controversy created by fabricated photo ops that give an impression of impropriety where there is none.

If you don't believe what you are told by Trump's own party officials, then you have given up on America already.
Scary as it seems, sometimes you simply have to believe Republican vote counters.

[johnforbes]

Wrong.

The law in every key state requires bipartisan observers to have meaingful access.

[Clownkicker]

Wrong, johnny, "bipartisan observers" (which all the venues already had) are not required to be personal staff of the candidate. They are from the state party. Trump has no right to personal observers.

You simply made it up, johnny, as always with your adolescent 'legal' arguments.

[elklindo69]

Johnnie....what is a "bipartisan" observer?

Do you people ever bother to proofread your bullshit before you dump it on the board?

[johnforbes]

Bipartisan observers, obviously, consist of both Dems and Repubs -- a bipartisan oversight of vote counting.

This is what the law requred in all key states, and why the Election of 2020 will be remembered as stolen.

[Clownkicker]

That's the reason why?

Because all those Republican and Democrat observers required by state law were present and did their jobs?

THAT'S why this election will be remembered as "stolen"? Because the states all observed their election laws?


That's just stupid, even for a dimwitted Trump supporter.


Meanwhile, Trump is continuing to fail in his legal challenges because he has no evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing in any state, the same as you. Trump's lawyers are admitting this point in court. Then they flee.

It should embarrass you that you consider Giuliani a competent lawyer. Republican judges are laughing him out of court. It's just one more example of how you have been lying about graduating from law school. No one who actually attended law school would hire Giuliani to take their case.

[johnforbes]

You are unaware of the facts.

In the key states, GOP observers were denied any meaningful oversight, and often no oversight at all.

Had the same transpired for Dems, and had GOP areas "found" the needed votes for Trump, Dems would be livid.

[elklindo69]

So what is "meaningful oversight" supposed to mean?

Are they supposed to stay 1 inch, 1 foot, 1 yard or 1 mile away? What does the law say?

I thought the PA supreme court ruled that poll watchers had no right to view the process from the distance they can choose. And that it was up to the local government to decide what the rules were?

[Clownkicker]

"In the key states, GOP observers were denied any meaningful oversight, and often no oversight at all."-johnfibs

Georgia and Arizona have Republican governors and Republican legislatures.

Are you honestly saying that Republicans purposely prevented meaningful oversight by Republicans?

Listen to yourself, dimwit. That's what your handlers have done to you. You are actually convinced that Republicans are obstructing Trump's re-election and are working for Biden.

Read the lie you posted one more time, johnny. Do you actually believe what you posted?

[johnforbes]

The local vote counters were what mattered, although of course states legislatures should have jumped into this because they have the authority under the Constitution.

[Clownkicker]

See? When you say it over to yourself you realize how stupid it sounds, don't you, johnny.

There obviously WAS oversight by Republicans in Republican-run states. Even at the local level. Especially at the local level.


Glad I could set you straight on that, johnny. I hope that little dose of reality doesn't ruin your entire day.

[johnforbes]

Nothing could set Clowntoker straight after his tawdry tenure in Frisco.

[elklindo69]

Apparently they will not name a high school after Trump but they will name a virus after him.

Now I suppose if Donnie Jr. doesn’t make it.....it is what it is. We can’t let the cure be worse than the virus now can we?

[johnforbes]

Georgetown was set to name the Bill Clinton School for Creative Ethics before he got caught by DNA receiving oral sex from a 21-year-old intern in the Oval Office.

[elklindo69]

Trump is a two legged felony factory. I figure that republicans wouldn’t be talking about a pardon for Trump if they didn’t think he was a criminal...

[johnforbes]

Already we are learning that the governor and sec of state of GA perhaps took kickbacks in order to get Dominion vote counting in to infest that state's process.

[Clownkicker]

"Already we are learning that the governor and sec of state of GA perhaps took kickbacks..."-johfibs

When did we learn that, johnny?

Last night on FOX news from Sean Hannity? "perhaps..."? Honestly...

Geezus cripes, you are truly gullible, johnny.

[johnforbes]

As stated many times, I seldom watch Fox.

As to Georgia officials receiving kickbacks for going with vote-cheating company Dominion, I don't think that is verified yet but I'm sure CNN and CBS and ABC will jump on that story and do some real "journalism" on it.

[Clownkicker]

"As stated many times, I seldom watch Fox."-johnflubs

So where do you get all your partisan propaganda, johnny? You got this unsupported "kickback" propaganda SOMEWHERE, and it wasn't from any reputable news source.

[johnforbes]

Leftist propaganda stems from NY Times, Wash Post, USA Today, Balto Sun, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and other such outlets for socialist slime.

My concepts flow, pure and clean much like mountain spring water, from Burke and other such clear minds.

[Clownkicker]

Well, that explains why your intellect is as dead as your "clear minds".

Not one of them can comment relevantly on current political realities either.


It's obvious that only intellectually dead guys slop your 'news' into your trough, all of which consists of claims of evidence they can't produce, innuendo, and rumors.

And you slurp it up.

[johnforbes]

In PA, they were bringing in baggies of USB drives, so it is no wonder that miraculous amounts of Biden votes popped up.

Meanwhile, normal ballot rejection rates are 3 percent for paper ballots, but nationally have been just 0.2 percent, thus revealing cheating by Dems.

[Clownkicker]

So why doesn't that "reveal" cheating by Repubs, johnny?

Of course, if you had ever taken a logic and reason course in college you would understand that the fact one thing happened (votes brought in on USB drives) does not mean that something else happened (false Biden votes "popped up.")

Correlation is not causation, dimwit. You simply made it up. Innuendo is not fact. It's partisan sour grapes from gutless partisan weasels who won't show up in court and say it to a judge.

Did I tell you yet that I am tired of the predicted Republican whining? Especially their whining without a shred of evidence to back up their whining? Even Giuliani hasn't alleged fraud in his court filings to overturn the PA election. When specifically asked by the Republican judge if he was alleging fraud, Giuliani said "No." But he said the judge should throw out 1 1/2 million votes anyway. The judge threw HIM out of court instead.

Undoubtedly johnforbes will now race down to the courthouse and file a new lawsuit with the evidence he has of Democrat fraud to show that gullible Republican judge.


"Meanwhile, normal ballot rejection rates are 3 percent for paper ballots, but nationally have been just 0.2 percent, thus revealing cheating by Dems."-johnfibs

Again, why doesn't that "reveal" cheating by Repubs? Did Republican states all have the usual 3 percent rejection rate and Democrat states had a negative 2.8% rejection rate to average out to a national rate of 0.2%? You really believe that makes sense, don't you.

Haven't you learned anything from your Dr. Ioannides stupidity with drawing wrong conclusions from information you don't understand, johnny?

Do you have any evidence of this alleged negative 2.8% rejection rate by Democrats across the entire country, johnny? No Republican Secretaries of State could find it. Are they all RINOs? Are Republicans all incompetent at running elections?