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#127763
As would anyone trying to get Trump to behave in a civilized manner, dummy.

Like trying to get him to wait his turn.

Trump doesn't do that, does he. He thinks of no one but himself at all times. (The Republican ideal, I admit)

What Wallace managed to do was reveal Trump's true vile nature, so if that makes him a fool in your mind, then so be it.
#127922
johnforbes wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:55 pm Trump talks with many, many people every day (all presidents do) and nobody knows where he got covid.

Wearing a mask does NOT prevent you from getting covid.

If you can breathe, you can get it.
I can understand why conservatives think in black and white terms. For these people it's either one or the other....and that's just lazy thinking.

You know condoms, IUDs, and oral contraceptives do NOT prevent women from getting pregnant...however they do significantly reduce the probability of getting pregnant. It's the same thing with the masks, they significantly reduce the probability of someone who is not infected from getting infected.

There are now studies that show that this is the case....

A study by a team of researchers led by a Texas A&M University professor has found that not wearing a face mask dramatically increases a person's chances of being infected by the COVID-19 virus.

Renyi Zhang, Texas A&M Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Sciences and the Harold J. Haynes Chair in the College of Geosciences, and colleagues from the University of Texas, the University of California-San Diego and the California Institute of Technology have had their work published in the current issue of PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences).

The team examined the chances of COVID-19 infection and how the virus is easily passed from person to person. From trends and mitigation procedures in China, Italy and New York City, the researchers found that using a face mask reduced the number of infections by more than 78,000 in Italy from April 6-May 9 and by over 66,000 in New York City from April 17-May 9.

"Our results clearly show that airborne transmission via respiratory aerosols represents the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19," Zhang said. "By analyzing the pandemic trends without face-covering using the statistical method and by projecting the trend, we calculated that over 66,000 infections were prevented by using a face mask in little over a month in New York City. We conclude that wearing a face mask in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent inter-human transmission.

"This inexpensive practice, in conjunction with social distancing and other procedures, is the most likely opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic. Our work also highlights that sound science is essential in decision-making for the current and future public health pandemics."
#127927
"Wearing a mask does NOT prevent you from getting covid. If you can breathe, you can get it."-johnfibs

Of course, if you lock yourself in a room, maskless, with someone who has it and you hug them and shake hands with them, you greatly increase your chances of contracting COVID. Even johnfibs will admit this fact.

And when a diverse group of people all contract the virus immediately after the only event they all attended, it is pretty certain that that is where they got it. It's the only thing they all had in common.

And that's exactly what Trump did. And johnforbes will make a fool of himself insisting "nobody knows" how they got sick.

Criminy, Trump supporters will grasp at any straw to continue to live in denial and ignorance.

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