[snakeoil]

"I was never informed." Really Mr. President? If this is true, this is a much greater crisis than Putin offering a bounty. It means that the Intelligence Community is deliberately withholding critical national security information from the President. This would be a treasonable offense by the Intelligence Community. It would require a massive conspiracy of many people the likes of which would be impossible. It would be a treasonable offense on the part of the Intelligence community. Once again Mr. President, I don't believe you.

[johnforbes]

NY Times story with an anonymous source, this is probably all bull anyhow.

As to wearing a uniform in a combat zone, that is intrinsically dangerous.

[RealJustme]

So an unnamed person, tells unnamed person and unconfirmed rumor, and the President of the United is expected to be briefed on it and take action?

[snakeoil]

Gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that Forbes and Justme had an inside position in Intelligence.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics ... index.html

Definitely not a liberal source https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... cials-say/

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/28/21306095/ ... ump-denial

I doubt that this is partisan. https://apnews.com/02975c59e71e65327e2f582cd1a91f43

Not liberal https://www.stripes.com/news/us/gop-law ... s-1.635536



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[sillydaddy]

snakeoil........always a day late, and a dollar short...

Last night a former intel officer, a guest on the Chris Cuomo show on CNN,
said the story is all bullshit. has been circulating around for years, and no evidence has ever been found...

[johnforbes]

Obviously, Snakeoil doesn't have a position in intelligence.

Even leftist dork Chris Cuomo's show exposed the fakeness of this story

[Clownkicker]

Notice these morons couldn't produce a single quotation from the alleged interview that supports their nonsense. I couldn't even find the alleged interview and no Trump supporter will provide a link to it. They didn't listen to it themselves. They are merely regurgitating today's propaganda talking points from their handlers.

No one (not even the White House) has said the intelligence reports don't exist. No one in the White House has said the reports were fake. No one in the White House has said the intelligence is false. No one in the White House has said that they were not included in the President's daily briefing papers. (This qualifies as being "fake" to johnforbes and RealTool.)

McEnany has only said "there is no consensus on these allegations." (Translation: the intelligence agencies say the reports are credible and the White House unsurprisingly says they aren't.) Who does any intelligent person believe?

Of course Trump didn't know about the bounties. He doesn't bother to read his daily briefings. He never has. He believes that gives him plausible deniability. And anyone who tells him out loud he should read the briefings would just be fired the next day.

This is the kind of dysfunctional government conservatives love; a president running things who is oblivious and ignorant by choice.

[snakeoil]

Lets state this for what it is.THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF U.S. FORCES WILL NOT STAND UP FOR HIS TROOPS. THE SEVEN CALLS THE ORANGE BABOON HAS MADE TO PUTIN SINCE MARCH PROBABLY LACKED ANY REFERENCE TO THE BOUNTY.

[johnforbes]

There is no evidence any of this even happened.

This is an old tale with no evidence ever adduced.

[Clownkicker]

Then why doesn't the White House deny it happened, johnny?

They aren't arguing the intel doesn't exist or that the intel wasn't credible.

Instead, they are desperately trying to plead plausible ignorance of the intel.

Figure it out, johnny. You realize your life is in Trump's hands, don't you?

[sillydaddy]

"I'm outraged.... We MUST get to the bottem of this..! "
That's all you hear from the Democrats when the bias liberal media confronts them....
meaning...they will not act until they have more information/evidence...!
Because they know it's all bullshit .....
The so-called "intel" comes from prisoners...
and we all know they always have been reliable...

[johnforbes]

Anybody certain this happened is free to post evidence.

They won't.

It didn't.

This is an old story going around which never had any evidence to support it.

If some evidence ever pops up, I'll be glad to say I'm wrong.

[snakeoil]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/p ... gence.html

American officials intercepted electronic data showing large financial transfers from a bank account controlled by Russia’s military intelligence agency to a Taliban-linked account, evidence that supported their conclusion that Russia covertly offered bounties for killing U.S. and coalition troops in Afghanistan, according to three officials familiar with the intelligence.

Though the United States has accused Russia of providing general support to the Taliban before, analysts concluded from other intelligence that the transfers were most likely part of a bounty program that detainees described during interrogations.

Investigators also identified by name numerous Afghans in a network linked to the suspected Russian operation, the officials said — including, two of them added, a man believed to have served as an intermediary for distributing some of the funds and who is now thought to be in Russia.

The intercepts bolstered the findings gleaned from the interrogations, helping reduce an earlier disagreement among intelligence analysts and agencies over the reliability of the detainees. The disclosures further undercut White House officials’ claim that the intelligence was too uncertain to brief President Trump. In fact, the information was provided to him in his daily written brief in late February, two officials have said.

[snakeoil]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06 ... eport.html

On Monday, the timeline became more damning: According to the Associated Press, former national security adviser John Bolton briefed Trump on the bounties in March 2019. According to intelligence officials who spoke with the Washington Post, the bounty program resulted in the deaths of an unknown number U.S. soldiers.

[snakeoil]

This article originally appeared in Business Insider.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/taliban ... can-troops

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

[snakeoil]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/taliban ... can-troops

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/taliban ... can-troops

Its getting a lot harder to defend the Orange Baboon on this isn't it John and Justme.

[johnforbes]

Not at all, son.

You have no evidence to support the intrinsic claim, which is old and has never been proven.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes doesn't seem to have a clue about how intelligence works.

There are various degrees of certainty surrounding all intelligence gathered and reported to the President, dimwit.

Anyone who waits to report information until it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is a moron. (i.e. he's johnforbes)

[johnforbes]

Then you and Snakeoil will be posting evidence, eh?

Why haven't you?

[Clownkicker]

johnny, we both regularly post evidence to support the things we say. snakeoil posted links to a half dozen articles here already.

You NEVER post evidence for ANYTHING you say here.

When you start posting classified evidence in support of the things you claim, (which is apparently the only evidence you will even CONSIDER might be true) then maybe you can demand others post classified evidence.

[johnforbes]

You and Snake were making this claim, but you have not posted any evidence.

You never will.

This is more anonymous source crap from the very people who pushed the fake dossier and two years of the fake Mueller probe.

[Clownkicker]

What claim did I make, dimwit? I made no claims whatsoever about bounties except "Of course Trump didn't know about the bounties."

Do you disagree with me, johnny? Are you saying Trump DID know something about bounties and still did nothing?

[johnforbes]

My hike is over, and beads of sweat have dappled my taut, lightly tanned musculature.

I remain ready to read any evidence you supply.

Surely the NY Times would not just be telling lies again?

[Clownkicker]

Evidence for what, dimwit? What do I need to supply evidence for? To prove Trump didn't know about bounties? Ya got me, there is no evidence whatsoever that he didn't know. But if you say he did, I'm not going to argue with you about it.

johnny, you've ignorantly backed yourself into another corner and can't weasel out of it...AGAIN.

Humiliated, you start doing your old "homo hoedown" Log Cabin Republican-manly-in-from-the-woods dance to pretend you didn't just make an ass of yourself.

But you did.....AGAIN.

[sillydaddy]

I think Clown is saying ..
He now realizes the whole story was all bullshit..and he is throwing in the towel...

[Clownkicker]

I think what I'm saying..

is the more I see Republican Senators on intelligence and other committees criticize Trump for doing nothing with the intelligence, and the more I see the White House dance around trying to plead ignorance without denying the intelligence exists, and the more intelligence agents come out defending the intelligence as credible, that I now realize the whole story is likely true...and I'm throwing my towel in johnforbes' face and escaping before he can corner me in the locker room and force himself on me, as is his wont...

[johnforbes]

Snake posted links ABOUT the anonymous claim.

But that is precisely how the baseless fake Russia dossier got spread too.

Where is the EVIDENCE?

The EVIDENCE does NOT exist.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, Republican Senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee are criticizing Trump for his inaction.

Of course average Americans don't get to see "the EVIDENCE" because it's classified, dimwit. What is wrong with you?

Sometimes we just need to trust Republican committee members who have seen the evidence because it's not published for the public and you and I don't have the clearance to read it for ourselves. Sometimes we just have to trust our representatives, like it or not.

And even if we did have clearance, Trump would take us to court to stop us from reading it for ourselves just to delay the process until his next scandal made everyone forget about his current scandal.

You don't get to say a President can keep everything secret and then say he can't be criticized because we haven't seen the evidence for ourselves because he kept everything secret.

[johnforbes]

It was hot out today, 91 F.

My shirt is drenched with sweat, but Clownslacker has yet to post a single shred of evidence.

[Clownkicker]

Can someone tell me why johnforbes is trolling the internet for l e a k s of classified U.S. intelligence?

Trump is going on about how anyone doing that will be prosecuted.

Why is johnforbes trying to trap people into breaking the law like this? Is he an undeclared foreign agent?

Maybe he works for Putin? Or the Republican Party? Or some other criminal organization?