[johnforbes]

The Marxist morons tore down a Francis Scott Key statue the other day...

[Clownkicker]

So they tore it down before it could be removed to a museum. That's unfortunate.

It should have had a controlled removal to a museum years ago, but jingoistic clowns like johnforbes wouldn't let it be done.

Besides, the guy's song is stupid. No one is able to sing it and it's about blowing things up.

The U.S. has been around for 233 years. Congress only made it the National Anthem 90 years ago. There is nothing sacred about the song. (When johnforbes was born, it had only been our national anthem for maybe 20 years. But boy does it piss him off that someone doesn't like the guy who wrote a bad song.)

We can choose another National Anthem that's not about war and not written by a racist; one we can all be proud of. It's perfectly okay.

[sillydaddy]

I always liked.."Watermelon Man" by Mongo Santamaria...
It would make a great anthem ..if they decide to scratch the present one...!

We should also get rid of July 4th and celebrate July 6th ...that's Fried Chicken Day...look it up!

[Clownkicker]

One thing we can all agree on, we would all love to see sillydummy singing "Watermelon Man" at a NASCAR race.

[sillydaddy]

Clown, and remove your BLM cap and place your right hand over your heart, when I do...!

[johnforbes]

"Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,

That so loudly Clown hails, the BLM's Marxist blight..."

[sillydaddy]

What brought Elk to the States.... was he thought it said...
"Jose, can you see, by the dawn's early light,

[elklindo69]

Well Silly at least they won't be spray painting or the pigeons will be shitting on your loser confederate statues any longer.

Now if you would rather die than use a mask.....nobody is stopping you.

[johnforbes]

Elkin, so your opposition to Confederate statues is that they lost the Civil War?

[elklindo69]

Why did people put up statues of people who were a bunch of lawbreaking treasonous rebel traitors?

[johnforbes]

Come on, Elkin, you are smarter than that surely?

Modern leftists have standards of orthodoxy which did not apply hundreds of years ago.

The past is the past, regardless of whether you or I concur.

[sillydaddy]

Why did people put up statues of people who were a bunch of lawbreaking treasonous rebel traitors?

Because the US President pardon all of them..!

[johnforbes]

Elkin really has no grasp of history at all.

Yet again, he proves deserving of the title DUMBEST PERSON ON THE INTERWEBS.

[sillydaddy]

Oh, by the way, Elk...
the Lenin statue in Seattle remains untouched. That's all we need to know about the Left.

[elklindo69]

Trump complained that the removal of the confederate statues was a "a merciless campaign to wipe out our history"

Now Trump's reference to "our history" is nothing more than a race baiting - dog whistle - white grievance maneuver to fire up his base.

Maybe someone in the white house should hit the 25th amendment button. Trump does more to protect statues of traitors than he does to protect loyal US soldiers.

[divermouse]

that button should have been pushed on the second delusional alternative fact.
first one gets a pass .

[johnforbes]

There was even a song written about Elkin's statue.

[elklindo69]

I grew up in NY and I can't ever remember seeing any confederate statues or war memorials. But against all odds I still learned about the Civil War...

[johnforbes]

Kidding aside (but not for long), probably nobody paid much attention to some of the statues.

Still, that doesn't give some unemployed kid who believes in anarchy the right to pull down statues as a means of destroying America's cultural history.

[elklindo69]

When you say "America's cultural history" that begs the question....who's cultural history?

Statues don't teach history. Statues are symbolic in nature...they express values.

If you know your history, those statues were erected long after the civil war was over. And laws were written by the same people to prohibit the removal of the statues because they knew there would be some day when the statues would eventually come down. They saw it coming.

[johnforbes]

Of course statues teach history.

They are examples, somewhat enduring ones, of people who were good examples of various societal traits.

For example, Mayor Buttplug -- who takes a southern bend -- admires the statue of Alfred E. Neumann.

[elklindo69]

Are you really going to get us to believe those Confederate statues were erected to teach people history.

Nobody believes that bullshit....even the people who put them up becuase they wrote laws making it impossible to have them from being taken down. Because they knew there would be a time when people would demand for them to be taken down.

Those confederate statues were never erected right after the civil war, they were erected decades later during the Jim Crow era decades after as a symbol of white supremacy. So do you have to erect thousands of these statues to teach history?

Those people even went so far as to "white" wash history by rewriting the school history books to claim that slavery was not the cause of the Civil War?

[johnforbes]

Of course they teach history.

They show that, once upon a time, people believed in something and gave their lives and fortunes and honor for it.

Was I raised in the South? No.

Are my beliefs in any way related to plantation owners in the 19th Century? No.

But the arrogant kids of Black Lives Matter are far too ignorant, much too juvenile, to understand the diversity of history.

Marxism destroyed tens of millions of lives, but it existed and I would not tear down every statue of Marx.

[elklindo69]

Claiming that you can learn about from history from statues is like learning about chinese cuisine by looking at the photos in the restaurant menus.

So we will not learn about history from the statues, in of themselves, but history will be made by taking down the statues....ironically.

[johnforbes]

You could learn a lot about history from pondering why the statues were put up.

But I hasten to agree that you can learn a lot about the young, dumb people who tear down statues -- i.e., that they are as dumb as the Taliban in that regard.

[elklindo69]

You don't learn about history by trying to figure out why the statues were put up.......you learn about the people who put them up and what their motives were for putting them up.

Once you know that.....then you know why people are tearing them down.............