[johnforbes]

So, as Obama admitted many times, he had no authority to act on the "Dreamers." And Trump did have authority to revoke Obama's wrong executive order.

Roberts admitted that, but remanded for Admin Proc Act steps, but he did so knowing the election was looming.

That spineless action after rewriting the mess of Obamacare twice to save it.

[elklindo69]

Apparently Trump was such a loathsome steaming pile of shit that the Supreme Court wanted to have no part of his racist scheme to kill off DACA.

If you thought that was bad Johnnie....wait until the Supreme Court gives the OK to release Trump's tax records...that 20 megaton steaming pile of shit will go supernova...pass the fucking popcorn.

[johnforbes]

You don't comprehend the issue.

Obama's order, as he himself said any number of times on video, was unconstitutional.

But he did it anyhow without the APA steps of notice and comment rulemaking.

Trump rescinded Obama's illegal order, but Roberts said Trump had to go through rulemaking.

Absurd ruling by RINO Roberts.

And now you understand what happened in that case.

[elklindo69]

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[johnforbes]

Don't know where you got that, but Obama acknowledged a number of times on clear video that presidents lack the constitutional authority to put themselves in the place of the Congress.

If you are talking narrowly about when he signed it, then okay.

But Obama admitted (to his credit) a number of times that he had no authority to do DACA.

Then, like a true Democrat, he went ahead anyhow.

And spineless Roberts gave this nonsense more time.

[elklindo69]

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ight-daca/

"President Obama, when he signed the executive order, actually said he doesn't have the right to do this," Trump said Jan. 9, 2018. "You have to go through Congress. Whether he does or whether he doesn't, let’s assume he doesn’t. He said it."

We looked at Obama’s Rose Garden speech announcing the new policy that allowed those who qualified to register and apply for two-year deferrals.

Obama didn’t say that he lacked the right to act. In contrast, he emphasized his authority to set priorities until Congress approved the DREAM Act, a measure that would formalize the legal status of this group of immigrants.

"In the absence of any immigration action from Congress to fix our broken immigration system, what we’ve tried to do is focus our immigration enforcement resources in the right places," Obama said June 15, 2012. "This is not a path to citizenship. It's not a permanent fix. This is a temporary stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people."

[johnforbes]

What Obama said about "driven" and "patriotic" people was absurd.

Were they driven to stop breaking the law? No.

Were they patriotic (to America) to stop breaking its laws? No.

But Obama admitted (to his credit) a number of times that he had no authority to do DACA.

Then, like a true Democrat, he went ahead anyhow.

And spineless Roberts gave this nonsense more time.

ACCORDING TO ELKIN'S DEFENSE OF OBAMA HERE, THEN TRUMP COULD SIMPLY REWRITE THE ENTIRE IMMIGRATION LAW BY EXECUTIVE ORDER AS BARRY DID.

Would that be okay with the leftists here?

[Clownkicker]

"Were they patriotic (to America) to stop breaking its laws? No."-johnfibs

johnny, 5-10-15 year olds have no choice about how to "stop breaking the law." Any imbecile knows that.

The law doesn't treat innocent children the same as adults, no matter what country they are from. You are using idiotic arguments for proper adult behavior and applying that 'reasoning' to children. You just don't get it.

No 2-year-old has any choice about going where his parents go. But you expect that child to turn himself in when he turns 16 to be deported to a country he knows nothing about? Only an evil person will make such an inhuman argument.

Additionally, you ignore thee fact that there is no possible way for them to comply with our immigration laws at that point. You are arguing that they should voluntarily leave the only country they have ever known and be exiled for the next 75 years waiting for the backlog of applications to clear. You keep pretending this is a practical solution to the problem when no sane person believes it is. Only conservatives and Trump supporters believe it is.

"...THEN TRUMP COULD SIMPLY REWRITE THE ENTIRE IMMIGRATION LAW BY EXECUTIVE ORDER AS BARRY DID."-johnfibs

NO, YOU LYING SACK OF PARTISAN SHIT! OBAMA DID NO SUCH THING. YOU MADE IT UP!
OBAMA DID NOT REWRITE THE ENTIRE IMMIGRATION LAW BY EXECUTIVE ORDER. HE ADDRESSED ONE SMALL PART OF THE PROBLEM UNTIL A GUTLESS CONGRESS WOULD GET OFF IT'S ASS AND DO SOMETHING. EVEN UNDER TRUMP THEY HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO. THAT REPUBLICANS WON'T INTRODUCE A BILL TO THE FLOOR IN THE SENATE IS NOT THE FAULT OF DEMOCRATS AND YOU KNOW IT!


AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DISHONESTLY ARGUE THIS FROM YOUR DELUSIONAL TRUMP-SUPPORTER LA-LA-LAND INSTEAD OF FROM THE REAL WORLD, PLEASE GO FUCK YOURSELF!

[johnforbes]

I agree kids have no choice.

But time moves on.

These "Dreamers" are mostly no longer kids, and plenty are in their 40s.

They have benefited enormously from America and its affirmation action, but they were too lazy to become legal.