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#124690
This whole virus and coming killer hornet "panic porn" was meant to keep Trump from getting re-elected and selecting the next Supreme Court Justice which would insure the liberals' new world order agenda would be stopped dead in place for at least the next 20 years.

Will Ruth let her fellow liberals down by not waiting to die until after the election???
#124693
Yes, there is a reason places like Maine are still locked down with no significant death from the virus.

The Democrats hoped to destroy the Trump economy and pave the way for him to lose in November.

Even the fellow who predicted 1/2 million deaths in the UK, and 2.2 million US deaths, broke quarantine after testing positive and went to meet his mistress.

Even he didn't take the lockdown seriously.
#124694
So what we know from RealTool's moronic post is that Democrats are NOT in "meltdown mode" (whatever that is.)

Beyond that, we now know that Republicans are desperately hoping for Ginsburg to die because their handlers are pushing this story to try to distract Republicans from Trump's daily incompetence.


And try to stay on topic, johnny. This is not a coronavirus thread. Apparently it's about how Republicans are melting down.
#124696
The Senate said they're prepared to fast track Trump's next Supreme Court nominee and expect the process to take less than two weeks. Trump said he has his pick already vetted and ready to start as soon as a position become available.

That tells me they know something that hasn't been made public. Trump still has 8 months on this term to appoint someone.
#124726
A new study finds no evidence of benefit from a malaria drug widely promoted as a treatment for coronavirus infection.

Hydroxychloroquine did not lower the risk of dying or needing a breathing tube in a comparison that involved nearly 1,400 patients treated at Columbia University in New York, researchers reported Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Although the study is observational rather than a rigorous experiment, it gives valuable information for a decision that hundreds of thousands of COVID-19 patients have already had to make without clear evidence about the drug’s risks and benefits, some journal editors and other doctors wrote in an editorial.

“It is disappointing that several months into the pandemic, we do not yet have results” from any strict tests of the drug, they wrote. Still, the new study “suggests that this treatment is not a panacea.”

President Donald Trump repeatedly urged the use of hydroxychloroquine, which is used now for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. It has potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has warned against its use for coronavirus infections except in formal studies.
#124739
That story is false.

Trump urged consideration of HCQ, not use.

He is not a doctor, and never said he was.

So the story contains a lie which young Elkin eagerly echoes.

Also, although that observational study is interesting, the jury is still out on therapy for covid.

I hope something works, but Elkin and other Democrats are hoping and praying that HCQ does NOT work.

They hate Trump that much.
#124744
"Trump urged consideration of HCQ, not use."-johnfibs

That's a lie, johnny, and you know it.

Trumps said in so many words: "Take it." "What have you got to lose?"

I quoted him saying it and I told you the time and date of the press conference so you could go listen for yourself and so you couldn't claim "liberal bias" of the source. I did your homework for you and you still come back to lie about it.

"So the story contains a lie which young Elkin eagerly echoes."-johnfibs

Wrong, the story didn't contain a lie. You simply lied about that. You know what you said is untrue and you said it anyway.

You're a lying piece of shit, johnny. Live with it.
#124749
Oh, please stop the leftist campaign against a drug which might help sick people.

Trump invited attention to HCQ, and he should have.

An observational study is not a real study; any scientist can tell you that.

It is interesting, but I still hope HCQ (and other things) help sick people.

Democrats are so insane they want sick people to die rather than Trump be correct about HCQ.
#124750
A new study finds no evidence of benefit from a malaria drug widely promoted as a treatment for coronavirus infection.

Hydroxychloroquine did not lower the risk of dying or needing a breathing tube in a comparison that involved nearly 1,400 patients treated at Columbia University in New York, researchers reported Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Although the study is observational rather than a rigorous experiment...
Translation, it's not a scientific study and won't stand up to review.
#124761
RealJustme wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 2:50 pm
A new study finds no evidence of benefit from a malaria drug widely promoted as a treatment for coronavirus infection.

Hydroxychloroquine did not lower the risk of dying or needing a breathing tube in a comparison that involved nearly 1,400 patients treated at Columbia University in New York, researchers reported Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Although the study is observational rather than a rigorous experiment...
Translation, it's not a scientific study and won't stand up to review.
Ironically....neither was Didier Raoult's "study" but that didn't stop Trump and the rightwing blogosphere from claiming that this drug was the cure to coronavirus....
#124764
"Trump invited attention to HCQ, and he should have."-johnflubs

Yes he "invited attention" and then prescribed the drug to millions of Americans without a license. It's on video that you could look at if you had any interest in the truth. So "Oh, please" yourself, you dishonest scumbag.


"An observational study is not a real study; any scientist can tell you that."-johnflubs

But you and Trump have nothing more than observations either, but for some reason you insist YOUR observations are more valid than someone else's one-off anecdotal observations.

That alone should be enough reason for Trump to keep his mouth shut about it until the studies come in. He should not prescribe anything, regardless. He also should not be paying millions of taxpayer dollars to stockpile an unproven drug. And you should not be trying to distract everyone with nonscientific voodoo. It is irresponsible of you and Trump.
#124766
Ironically....neither was Didier Raoult's "study" but that didn't stop Trump and the rightwing blogosphere from claiming that this drug was the cure to coronavirus....
No one ever claimed it was cure to Coronavirus, you watch to much fake news dude. Trump said some studies show it might help and should made available if the patient's doctor and the patient wants to try it.
#124768
RealJustme wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:32 pm
Ironically....neither was Didier Raoult's "study" but that didn't stop Trump and the rightwing blogosphere from claiming that this drug was the cure to coronavirus....
No one ever claimed it was cure to Coronavirus, you watch to much fake news dude. Trump said some studies show it might help and should made available if the patient's doctor and the patient wants to try it.
There are no studies that show that it might "help"....

Whatever "help" means?

To cure?

Reduce symptoms?
#124769
Only a physician can prescribe.

Trump heard about HCQ and that, with Zpack and zinc, has been shown to have good efficacy if given before the patient is in cytokine storm.

The "studies" against HCQ have NOT been experimental or scientific.

I'd actually prefer the Gilead drug so my stock could go up.

But, unlike the Democrats here, I'd like to help sick people.
#124788
Trump heard?

Trump heard what?

He sure wasn't paying attention or listening to about a dozen of those presidential briefings warning about the coronavirus threat.

According to Trump only 15 people would get infected..tops...then it would go away like a miracle.
#124977
I'm never "delighted" with stupidity, johnny.

Drug dealers and scammers never swallow their own lies, johnny.

And the fact that you actually believe Trump is taking his own scam medicine shows just how stupid you are.

Wake up, fer cripes sake. Trump only wields power because of imbeciles like you.

What's happening now is YOUR fault, johnny. Remember that 10 months from now.
#124994
^^^^^^ You can just see the gears grinding slowly as johnforbes desperately fishes through his feeble repertoire of three tired jokes, looking for a witty comeback and failing for lack of any imagination of his own.

johnforbes leaves one with the poignant impression of the grinning, glassy-eyed child with vaguely Mongoloid features, so proud of the fart joke he tells for the 20th time, believing everyone else finds it just as hilarious as he does.
#125004
johnforbes is the mental Ben Ross of this forum.

A 'tough guy' in his own world, johnny bloviates a lot, using big words and obscure references as an attempt to show off.

But when his brain is put to a real test of intellectual brawn, something beyond the mere regurgitation of trivia, something demanding rational thinking or even a call to wit, his mind snaps like a twig within a few seconds.
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