Political discussions about everything
#123811
A city without cops, already many crimes have increased 75% but they won't have to worry about those mean people with guns telling them what to do for long. It's party time in New York, hell yeah hope they enjoy it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
There are fears of a breakdown in law and order in New York as the city's key agencies feel the brunt of the coronavirus.

The NYPD has reported that up to a sixth of its force, or around 6,500 members called out sick towards the end of last week and the numbers are expected to grow far force in the coming days.
#123813
LIBERAL utopia?

More like Trump-supporter utopia, Tool. They all have their guns and militias and Rand Paul Librtarians who hate government messing with their lives. They want to fight it out for themselves.

We're more likely to experience what Trump supporters really want to do in the coming months. Brutal authoritarian strongman rule by their God, soldiers in the streets, and food lines like the Great Depression where all those 'freeloaders' they despise will wait humbly for handouts.

"Make America Grovel Again"-(RealTool's future hat slogan)
#123815
So conservatives run the White House and the Senate, many Republican governors are ignoring best practices in their states, Trump Administration under Pence is directing the COVID response teams, and you say it looks like LEFTIST authoritarian rule?

Wow, now johnforbes is saying Trump and his Administration are behaving like Stalin or Mao Tse Tung!

That's pretty radical, johnny........but insightful. I almost agree with you.
#123816
Fauci emailed Cheryl Mills, Hillary's chief of staff, to express his admiration and "love" of Hillary, signing it warmly from "Tony."

The husbby of Birx was a Clinton advance man.

These key doctors have shut down the country, and they seem to fit the leftist authoritarian mold perfectly.

So do governors such as Wolf in Pennsylvania who has shut down Phily almost totally.
#123818
"These key doctors have shut down the country, and they seem to fit the leftist authoritarian mold perfectly."-johnfibs

johnforbes is a typical Republican. They have all the power but still blame everything that happens on Democrats.

Never mind that those doctors don't have the power to "shut down the country." johnforbes made it up.
Firstly, some wise governors and then (johnny come lately) Trump shut down the country. And Trump wants to open it prematurely against the recommendations of those "key doctors". They can't stop him from doing so any more than they could make him shut the country down.

Never mind that it was Trump who in 2018 mystifyingly closed the White House’s National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense. This was the White House pandemic office that was successful against the Ebola outbreak under Obama. Trump's hatred for everything Obama caused this YUGE blunder.

Never mind that, unlike South Korea which had its first COVID case on the same day the U.S. did but quickly got their outbreak under control, the Trump Administration failed to respond with the recommended broad testing and tracking for the virus in the U.S..

Never mind that until quite recently the Trump Administration left the response to the crisis in the hands of individual states without the authority, funding, or supplies to respond adequately. Instead they were left begging for supplies from the national stockpile that didn't come.

Never mind that it was Republicans who were ridiculing the Democrat governors who took steps Republicans considered needlessly "drastic" to curb the spread.

Never mind that the Pentagon wanted to send out thousands of ventilators to problem areas but the Trump Administration didn't tell them where to send them.

Never mind that only brown-nosing Republican governors were the tragic holdouts to taking effective action, begging their lord and master for permission to take action that finally came only after three months of incompetence in the White House.

Never mind that Trump sent China 18 tons of the very supplies we are desperately short of at home.

No, johnforbes and RealTool are still here blaming it all on Obama and Democrats. That's how dimwitted and delusional they are in the face of the ugly truth. To them, denial isn't a river in Egypt. Instead, their denial is going to become our river Styx for way too many Americans.
#123821
There were puzzling things about Fauci all along, from his desire to shut down the entire country with no end in sight, to his ongoing disdain for HCQ.

Tonight, an infectious disease M.D. said, well, the CDC came come look at my data and begin a quick test and within a week have prelim data.

Fauci has now spent a month of this crisis talking about HCQ, but NOT studying it.

Perhaps him expressing admiration and -- his word -- "love" for Hillary is to blame?
#123824
Don't be so stupid, johnny. Any relationship you claim Fauci has with Hillary doesn't change a thing about whether his medical opinions are valid or not. He isn't living in a vacuum and he doesn't make all decisions by himself.

Anyone who disagrees with him can say so, as always, just like how a lot of people like you claim he was wrong in February and still wrong today.

By the way, feel free to act on your opinions and go out without a mask, meet with a lot of people, and sneeze on them. See what happens.
#123843
Oh no, nobody is claiming Fauci had a relationship with Hillary.

His email, as I interpret it, meant only admiration and "love" in the sense that he liked the cut of her jib, her political career, her political views.

I've never read anything to the effect of anything beyond that.

The point is that I'd like a doctor to be not a Whig, or Federalist, or Tory, or Democrat, or Republican, or any political party.

It begins to look as if Fauci didn't want HCQ to work and he has said many times he sees no real end to America's shutdown, so perhaps he wants Hillary to step in and beat Trump in November?
#123845
"His email, as I interpret it, meant only admiration and "love" in the sense that he liked the cut of her jib, her political career, her political views."-johnfoibles

Do you think he might have been fishing for his job to continue into her Administration when she won, johnny? Just like all those ass kissers stroked Trump's balls to get jobs? Are you saying we can't trust any of the people who sucked Trump's dick to get their jobs?
Who cares if Fauci and Hillary were fucking in the copy room? What difference does it make?

"The point is that I'd like a doctor to be not a Whig, or Federalist, or Tory, or Democrat, or Republican, or any political party."-johnfoibles

You aren't going to find a doctor anywhere who doesn't have any political views, dummy. What is wrong with you? Do you actually think your MD brother doesn't have any political views?

"It begins to look as if Fauci didn't want HCQ to work ..."-johnfibs

No It doesn't look that way at all, johnny. You made it up.
Incidentally, Trump shouldn't have been prescribing unapproved medications to Americans at his news conference on Saturday either. Unbelievable.
"I'll say it, what do you have to lose? I'll say it again, what do you have to lose? Take it. I really think they should take it."-fuckingcriminalTrump
And you're criticizing FAUCI's medical pronouncements? But say nothing about Trump's completely unqualified medical opinions and drug pushing? Well fuck you, johnny. I mean that, you fucking hypocrite. And not in a good way either.

"...so perhaps he wants Hillary to step in and beat Trump in November?"-johnfibs

Criminy, don't be ridiculous, you blithering buffoon. Who cares what "perhaps he wants"? You're making a fool of yourself. Is that the bullshit your handlers are feeding you these days? Even if Fauci DID want something that stupid, it can't happen because she isn't running and she doesn't have any delegates to the Democratic Convention. Seriously, what is wrong with you? Are you really that far off the looney tunes conspiracy theory deep end?
#123855
My guess is that Fauci wanted an even better job in Hillary's admin if (polls thought when) she got elected.

Democrats have often said they wanted a recession as a chance of Trump losing, and now they have one.

Birx and Fauci are obviously Democrats, so it is a possibility.

Hopefully, Birx and Fauci are more scientists, or am I naïve?
#123856
Democrats thought this was the crisis they needed as part of their insurance to keep Trump from getting re-elected. Once again, it backfired on them, Trump is actually getting the opportunity to prove he's the right person at the right time to save America. Someone from above is watching out for our President.
#123861
It is now 4 weeks that Fauci has been saying HCQ must be tested, so Fauci just wasted a precious month in which he could have tested HCQ.

It begins to look as if Fauci is happy with the status quo and doesn't want to solve the problem with a cheap, available, old malaria drug.
#123874
RealJustme wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:24 pm New York is rocking it with deaths! A State couldn't do any worse if they intentionally caused the deaths. Could it be the DNC is working with New York to keep their deaths up to try and damage Trump?
Well maybe because there are about 8.5 million people who live in a densely populated area you dumb fuck....
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