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#123310
The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.
#123357
The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.
#123386
The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.
#123406
Although young Elkin would not realize it, the modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spy operations. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.
#123411
johnny, you keep repeating this same nonsense. How do you manage to avoid boring yourself? You certainly bore the rest of us.

You seem to have missed the fundamental flaw in your adolescent thesis; that your alleged "modern Left" is not the Left at all. It's just the Right in different clothing.

In other words, you keep criticizing people like Hillary because you believe she is just like Nixon using his dirty tricks squad or like Trump making an abusive use of power.

I think you had better go back to college (smoke some dope if you need help to unclench your rectum) and learn the difference between "Left" and "Right".

You just might stop making a fool of yourself by constantly criticizing your own reactionary Right beliefs.
#123412
In reading over this thread, my staff members spotted this gem of wisdom:

It is true that the modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spy operations. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.
#123456
"By itself, and this is a point made by Ayn Rand et alia, greed isn't bad."-johnforbes

....which only makes it even more absurd and unforgivably hypocritical that you criticize Warren for having traits that Trump has but you never criticize Trump for having the same traits.

Don't you SEE that, johnny? Honestly? You really don't realize what a dishonest partisan scumbag you are?
#123488
johnforbes posts duplicate lies, I'll post duplicate reality check smack downs:


"Though the H1N1 virus had begun spreading in Mexico, the first case in the United States was detected on April 15, 2009, in a 10-year-old patient in California. Two days later, CDC laboratory testing confirmed a second infection in an 8-year-old also living in California. Within one week, the CDC had activated its Emergency Operations Center to respond to what it had identified as an emerging public health threat.

Before the end of April, the government had declared a public health emergency and started releasing medical supplies and drugs from the CDC’s Strategic National Stockpile. “The real-time PCR test developed by CDC was cleared for use by diagnostic laboratories by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) on April 28, 2009, less than two weeks after identification of the new pandemic virus,” the CDC notes on its website.

Sebelius remembers that date well. It was the day she was sworn in as HHS secretary.

The test developed by the CDC was created quickly. It was accurate. And it was shared with governments around the world, she said. “The capacity of CDC at that point to make and develop and quickly turn out a test was vastly different than what we saw occurring” with the coronavirus, Sebelius said.

In an interview, Dr. Tom Frieden, who was CDC director under Obama, said testing for H1N1 and the United States’ willingness to share its test with other countries was a success. “I traveled all over the world and for years afterward even very hostile governments were saying thank you for sending it to us.”

Coronavirus testing, on the other hand, remains mired in delays. Though the first person in the United States was confirmed to have the virus on Jan. 20, a series of problems have kept testing out of reach for many patients with telltale symptoms of the virus. The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then it took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it, ProPublica found. Trump said on March 6 that “anybody who wants a test gets a test,” but many doctors, patients and public health leaders say that is not the case.

On Wednesday, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, said: “Testing is limited. It will, in all likelihood, remain limited.”--ProPublica


Trump is STILL lying to you, johnny, but for some reason you are not only swallowing his lies, but you are naively and unquestioningly propagating his lies. Even Republicans are calling him a liar, as we see with Gov. DeWine.
#123532
Thank you for admitting quite accurately that your story is made up and has nothing to do with either the truth or reality.

In the real world where intelligent people (non Trump supporters) live, Obama declared a national emergency within the same month of the first confirmed U.S. case of H1N1.

Trump took three months to do the same thing with COVID-19.
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