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#122488
Trump Jr. tweeted a message to the lead House prosecutor in the impeachment case. "Allow me a moment to thank — and this may be a bit of a surprise — Adam Schiff. Were it not for his crack investigation skills, @realDonaldTrump might have had a tougher time unearthing who all needed to be fired," Trump Jr. tweeted.
Democrats are triggered along with the media. Trump has some huge balls!
#122492
Yovanovitch was fired long before the Ukraine phone call because she supported the opponent of the new president in Ukraine, and because she worked against Trump.

Vindman was THREE TIMES OFFERED THE JOB OF FOREIGN MINISTER OF UKRAINE, and Vindman was critical of US soldiers while overseas and while speaking to foreign officials.

Vindman, like Ciaramella, was apparently working for partisan pro-Democrat political purposes while being paid by taxpayers.
#122543
Let's recap............

Stone: Getting locked up for a long time
Gates: 3 yrs locked up and probation
Cohen: 3 yrs locked up
Manafort: 4 yrs locked up
Flynn: awaiting sentencing
Individual-1: FUCKING IMPEACHED

Hillary: Taking a stroll through in the woods somewhere.

Me: laughing at all of you "lock her up" MAGA morons
#122557
Huma and Mills lied under oath and claimed not to know about the server, and it was later learned they did.

Solution?

Give them immunity from prosecution because important Democrats are above the law.

Such was the way Comey and Lynch operated.

Hillary paid 12 million for a fake dossier put together by a former spy in Russia, and then used that to lie to FISA judges and wiretap Trump.
#122651
But Elkin, you have seen the video clip -- we all have -- of Clapper telling the lie to Congress that data was not routinely collected on Americans.

Brennan has been quite open about his political bias, and it is a matter of record that he voted for Gus Hall in 1976.

You are correct that they have not been charged, and you are celebrating that, but do you really want a country in which clearly guilty people like McCabe are not even charged?

Do you know what Pyrrhic Victory means?
#122656
The average rapist gets 4 yrs, but the Left wanted Stone to serve 7 yrs with his only crime being liking Trump.

Clapper and Brennan and Comey and Schiff lied to Congress about enormous things of national import, so what were they charged with?

McCabe lied -- this is crystal clear -- under oath, and McCabe held a high federal position while Stone was just some political operator nobody cared about except for political spin. McCabe was allowed to skate.
#122660
"The average rapist gets 4 yrs, but the Left wanted Stone to serve 7 yrs with his only crime being liking Trump."-johnfibs

Wow, it's amazing to hear a Trump supporter publicly conflate "tampering with witnesses" with "liking Trump."

It's equivalent, that's true, but that johnny would admit it so freely lets the corrupt partisan cat out of the bag.
#122712
Actually, we know nothing of the sort.

The IG specified the multiple instances where McCabe lied.

The IG's focus was on 3 very clear instances of lies.

The excuse was that McCabe might not be found guilty if charged, but that is a risk which should have been taken because he clearly lied and not charging for such things impairs the ability of the public to believe that it has a justice system.

The PERCEPTION OF RECEIVED JUSTICE is at the heart of our system, and millions of people now believe that Democrats don't have to obey the law.

Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills lied under oath, saying they did not know about Hillary's server. Later *** showed they did. But, as important Democrats, they were allowed to slither away uncharged.

If Barr really does intend to restore the rule of law, he better at least charge some Democrat with spitting on the sidewalk to at least push forward the pretense.

EQUAL JUSTICE is what I was taught, and what I favor. That doesn't mean only Repubs are investigated and charged.
#122718
Because of Barr's connection to the Bush Family, I always had doubts about him.

But set politics aside and I still believe America would be better with some sense that the law matters.

McCabe lied under oath, and knew what he was doing as an important federal official, and he was allowed to dance away totally free.

For a Dem or a Repub, that is not a good sign.

Trump should start gathering fake dossiers, lie to the FISA court, and wiretap his opponents if that is now acceptable, which it appears to be.
#122720
"But set politics aside and I still believe America would be better with some sense that the law matters."-johnforbes

And yet you are supporting Trump undermining the law by freeing undisputed criminals like Blagojevich who committed multiple crimes. He convicted himself with his own admissions. But you're fine with portraying him as a victim when his own Party in Illinois asked Trump not to do it.

How do you think America is going to feel about "the law matters" when you are thumbing your nose at the law by supporting Trump's foolishness. One likely outcome is Trump won't stand a chance in Illinois in November.
#122722
Clown, neither nor nor the typical Democrat cares whatever about the law.

You want illegal aliens to vote, you want open borders, and nutty Mayor Buttgood wants all illegal drugs to be legal.

You want no death penalty for murderers, but couldn't care less about crime victims.

Pretending Dems care about the law is preposterous at this juncture.
#122724
"You want illegal aliens to vote, you want open borders, and nutty Mayor Buttgood wants all illegal drugs to be legal.
You want no death penalty for murderers, but couldn't care less about crime victims."-johnfibs

And finally, johnforbes drops his silly pretense of being civilized. He explodes in impotent frustration with flat out lies because he can't actually tell the truth. He's a conservative. The truth makes him choke.

For the record, I don't want illegal aliens to vote. Nobody else does either, johnny. You made it up.
You've been swallowing all the shit your handlers have been feeding you gullible conservative, turning you into a mindless fool.I don't want open borders either. Nobody does. You made it up. (Well, your handlers made it up and you are simply programmed to regurgitate what they feed you.)

You're going to have to prove that Buttigieg wants all illegal drugs to be legal. I'm pretty sure he never said that, and you know it. You made it up, just like RealTool makes up everything he posts.

The one thing you're right about is I don't want the death penalty for anyone. But if I say taxpayers should provide care and restitution to victims of crime, you assholes whine and scream about how you don't owe anyone anything and you'll be damned if taxes will be raised for anything at all, especially crime victims.

It is Republicans who don't give a damn about crime victims. Their responses are limited to primitive revenge and hate which don't help crime victims at all. But Republicans will not do anything positive and useful for crime victims. They just build more prisons and put more people in jail. (Well, they let out the Republican criminals, of course but you get my gist. They clearly don't give a damn about the crime victims in Illinois and New York.)
#122725
But if I say taxpayers should provide care and restitution to victims of crime, you assholes whine and scream about how you don't owe anyone anything and you'll be damned if taxes will be raised for anything at all, especially crime victims.
Why should taxpayers be penalized for crimes committed by others? The only person who should be held accountable for crimes are the ones that commit them...they should be the ones who should have to pay up, not taxpayers. Why do liberals always feel innocent citizens should be penalized for everything others do but argue penalizing criminals is cruel?
#122729
^^^^^^^ See, johnny? Proof positive that Republicans like you and RealTool don't give a damn about crime victims.

Did I call it or did I call it?

"... but argue penalizing criminals is cruel?"-RealTool

No liberal has ever argued that, Tool. It's just more of your made up stupid shit. It's the only way conservatives can mount an argument at all; just make up stupid shit.
#122743
Democrats do indeed want illegal aliens to vote, and Obama assured illegals before the 2016 election that they could and nobody would say anything negative.

Obama stressed the privacy of the ballot box, thereby sending a very clear signal before the election of 2016.

California and other states explicitly tell illegals no proof of citizenship will be needed to vote.

Many states give driving licenses to illegals, and that is the SOLE proof needed to vote in many jurisdictions.

This is why Dems want open borders too.

The notion that Dems respect the rule of law is absurd; they loved the fake dossier used to illegally wiretap the Trump campaign.
#122764
When Ike became president, he gave orders and -- as a former general -- expected action.

Nothing happened because the agencies run themselves pursuant to their own agendas.

Does anybody really believe that an obviously fake dossier wasn't spotted instantly by the savvy lawyers who processed it?

Were the FISA judges really so lazy that they didn't even read the footnotes on the FISA application to wiretap the Trump campaign that they didn't notice that the dossier was paid for by Hillary and the DNC?
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