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#121933
Today when the media sided with Warren that Bernie is a male chauvinist pig, it was clear that the DNC has once against decided he can't run for President.

Biden will get the plantation vote while Warren gets the feminist votes. Bernie supporters will once again head back into their parent's basements and engage in computer games to escape the real world.

All is well on the Democratic Homefront. So it is written.
#121950
Right after Bernie dropped out in 2016 and endorsed Hillary, he bought his latest vacation home and paid for it in cash. He'll be more expensive this time, before he endorses the Biden/Warren ticket he'll want one of the DC book deals with the money up front with the book to come later. Once again it's clear the media and the DNC haven't selected him to run against Trump, but they need his supporters' votes, so he will be paid. His next vacation home will be in the Hamptons.

So it is written.
#121951
RealTool is mysteriously baffled by the workings of politics. He's shocked-- SHOCKED! to find that political parties run the candidates of each party's choice.

He's baffled despite his daily witness to the blatantly dishonest machinations of McConnell and the RNC who passed rules to make it impossible for any Republican to run against Trump in 2020.

"So it is written."-RealClueless
#122004
"Obama delayed the aid longer than Trump, and that might have been one of the very few things he got correct."-johnforbes

Obama delayed the aid because of Ukrainian corruption, as he should have.
Trump delayed the aid for personal political benefit because our military had already evaluated Ukraine's actions to curb corruption. On top of that, military aid was crucial to Ukraine's ability to stand up to Russia, which was in the interest of the U.S.. You don't always get to be picky about who is going to fight our fights for us. Our military had cleared Ukraine for aid. Trump doesn't get to break our laws and delay the aid authorized by Congress more than 48 days, which he did.

"There was no quid,..."-johnfibs

Of course there was a quid; military aid. Everyone, including Trump, admits there was a quid. Only imbeciles deny there was military aid sent to Ukraine.

"...no pro,..."-johnfibs

We'll never know unless witnesses are allowed to testify in the trial, right, johnny? What kind of traitors to America would insist there should not be witnesses in a trial? We aren't China or Russia, are we. We have trials based on evidence, and all relevant evidence should be heard. It's the American way.

"...but the truth is that Ukraine never should have gotten the billion in military aid which has doubtless already been wasted."-johnfibs

Sure, I believe johnforbes over the opinions of our Joint Chiefs and intelligence agencies. Who wouldn't? They all disagreed with johnforbes, as he well knows.

Regardless, even if they shouldn't have gotten the aid in johnforbes' bizarre fantasy world, the law doesn't allow the President to make that call. Congress has that power, not the President. If Congress is wrong in johnflubs' opinion, that still doesn't exonerate Trump when he breaks the law by defying the will of Congress.
#122005
No, you are wrong because you must recall the date of the phone call in question.

No quid, no quo, and the phone call was fine asking call you do a favor for "us" (id est, the Americann people).

Also, liberals today have forgotten their own heritage -- not railroading somebody like Flynn, not telling lies about Bernie, not worshipping unelected investigative bureaucrats, being suspicious of entrenched federal power, etc.
Obliterated what?

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