[johnforbes]

Even before the current president of Ukraine got elected, Ukraine had decided to reopen the Burisma probe.

This was open information -- not secret.

Thus, there could never have been even the possibility that Trump was offered a quid pro quo.

We also now know that Ukraine was not even aware of the billion in aid until a month after Trump's call.

[johnforbes]

No idea why this posted twice, but let's be candid:

This thread is so good it deserves to be two.

[Clownkicker]

Even johnforbes' fingers are stuttering buffoons.

[RealJustme]

Even before the current president of Ukraine got elected, Ukraine had decided to reopen the Burisma probe.

Yep and Ukraine has provided that information, so that puts this whole matter to bed!

[johnforbes]

Yep, and the Ukraine president said he didn't even perceive any pressure from Trump.

I've read the transcript of the Ukraine phone call, and there was just nothing wrong with it anyhow.

[RealJustme]

I've read the transcript of the Ukraine phone call, and there was just nothing wrong with it anyhow.

I agree, it was a super phone call.

[Clownkicker]

"a super phone call" "a perfect phone call" <-----Meaningless jibber jabber.

Criminy, conservatives haven't the foggiest idea what they are saying. They all talk like 8th graders.

[johnforbes]

I've never held Clown's 7th grade education against him.

However, during his Frisco years, he held many odd things against him.

[RealJustme]

Criminy, conservatives haven't the foggiest idea what they are saying. They all talk like 8th graders.

Not our fault we're talking over your head.

[Clownkicker]

See? Conservatives think that being only slightly smarter than someone with a seventh grade education makes them look good. This is why republicans like Trump so much. He talks at their intellectual level.

[RealJustme]

See? Conservatives think that being only slightly smarter than someone with a seventh grade education makes them look good.

We deal in facts, so yes, it does make us look good to be better educated than you. You believe everyone should receive a gold star, we believe it should be earned.

[elklindo69]

I've read the transcript of the Ukraine phone call, and there was just nothing wrong with it anyhow.

I agree, it was a super phone call.

Such that Trump had to hide it on a super secret server....

[johnforbes]

There are so many leftist leakers that it was decided to retain such calls on a server.

Why did Hillary have a secret private server which was non-secure?

Why did she delete 33,000 emails under subpoena, then bleach the server?

[elklindo69]

So Trump has some self described "perfect phone call" which just happened to be hidden on a super secret and secured server.

Maybe Trump put his tax returns on said server. He seems to value his tax returns and political baggage more than the nation's most critical secrets............

[johnforbes]

Elkin, you must be nuts to say that because you merely invite attention to the very well known fact that Hillary's non-secure server was breached by hostile actors.

And why wouldn't they, when she was Sec of State?

[elklindo69]

Elkin, you must be nuts to say that because you merely invite attention to the very well known fact that Hillary's non-secure server was breached by hostile actors.

And why wouldn't they, when she was Sec of State?

The server's used by Hillary were not breached. You just made that shit up.

I'll give you 3.5 piles of steaming bullshit on that one.........

[johnforbes]

Elkin, you are completely wrong about that.

Her non-secure server was not only breached (and why wouldn't it be?), but breached by hostile actors according to the intel people.