[RealJustme]

Statues for MLK need to come down, I'm sure #METOO is on it. ???

[Clownkicker]

What tape, Tool?

Are you making up stupid shit again? Or are you just dutifully channeling the made up stupid shit of your handlers?

[johnforbes]

I don't condemn Clownslacker for the color of his skin, but for the content of his character.

[Clownkicker]

Being a conservative, johnforbes condemns anyone who demands to see evidence before accepting someone's made up stupid shit.

Not believing made up stupid shit is considered a failure of character to a conservative. They swallow any stupid shit that's swilled into their trough by their handlers.

[johnforbes]

But Clown, you had no evidence Trump was guilty of anything and yet you just spent 2 years proclaiming his guilt.

Meanwhile, it was Dems who were breaking the law to wiretap Trump with a fake dossier which they all knew was fake.

Mueller's chief deputy Weissman knew BEFORE the probe that the dossier was fake.

[RealJustme]

I challenge clown to prove there is no tape of MLK laughing while his pastor friend raped a parishioner.

[johnforbes]

Apparently, thet taped King at the Willard Hotel in DC, and the agents were surprised at the events in the title of this thread.

But it was well known that King was a skirt-chaser. They apparently thought he had affairs with 40 to 45 women.

Long ago, it was revealed that he plagiarized his doctoral paper, although the media outlets even today always refer to him as "Doctor."

[Clownkicker]

I challenge RealTool to prove there is a tape of MLK laughing while his pastor friend raped a parishioner.

[Clownkicker]

Apparently, they taped Trump on a TV show bus, and the interviewer was surprised at the pussy grabbing Trump bragged about.

But it was well known that Trump was a skirt-chaser. They apparently thought he had affairs with 40 to 45 women and they cost him a fortune in both divorce settlements and payoffs to mistresses.

Long ago, it was revealed that he bankrupted multiple casinos, failed at a Steak company, failed as a vodka company, failed as an airline, failed as "Trump" magazine, failed as a mortgage company, attached his name to many scam companies for money, ran a fraudulent "University" and had to pay $25 million to his victims, although Republicans even today always refer to him as a "successful businessman."

I'd say if johnny thinks his post shows respect for King is misplaced, then he must also believe respect for Trump is misplaced for the same reasons.

[johnforbes]

Well, it is hardly the same thing.

King was in the morality business, and he was constantly preaching religion.

Trump owned casinos, and real estate enterprises.

As to this or that business failing, that is how capitalism functions.

Look up the economist Schumpeter...

[Clownkicker]

Well, that is very much the same thing, johnny.

You are rejecting a man's (immensely successful) life work for his personal failings of adultery.
Thus, you need to measure Trump by that same standard. Whatever he did in business may not be counted in his favor because he failed in the adultery department.

Whenever someone fails to live up to what they preach, they may be personal failures in their private life but it doesn't negate the value of the things they are preaching, does it. Those things must be considered on their merit independently from the messenger. You don't argue against the moral nature of non-violence by showing that the guy preaching it broke some other teaching about adultery. Yet that is what you are doing. You're judging the value of King's teachings by his personal failures.

So by your own standards, a guy preaching about deal making and business can also be shrugged off for being a failure in some aspect of his personal life, such as Trump and his adultery. The difference is, King didn't fail at so many business ventures and King didn't pay out millions of dollars for his moral failings the way Trump did. So ultimately who is the better businessman, johnny?

[sillydaddy]

"... Whatever he did in business may not be counted in his favor because he failed in the adultery department.

Isn't that what the asshole Demos have been doing , since day one??

[Clownkicker]

That's what johnforbes is doing, dimwit.

But no, Democrats have been saying everything Trump has done in business can't be counted in his favor not because of the adultery but because he is a YUGE failure in business. Don't take my word for it. Ask VIRTUALLY EVERY AMERICAN BANK that refuses to lend him a nickel any longer because he's a bad risk. And ask every contractor that got ripped off by Trump over the years.

After cheating the IRS and losing his father's $400 million real estate inheritance, Trump only 'succeeded' by going into debt to Deutsche Banc to the tune of $400 million today. Trump's net worth is probably less than a billion, especially if you take out the over-inflated Trump brand that no one will pay a nickel for right now either.

[johnforbes]

No, the interesting thing about historical figures is that they accomplished things while having feet of clay.

But King was no plaster saint, nor was JFK.