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#113696
like a good russian operative john puts trash out there to cover up a FACT. in our time of elections, not back in the 50-60's, its the republicans who can't keep their finger off the scale. but deflect for their ignorant base, maybe to be kind I should say clueless. gee john I thought you were an american... brightest strongest best at everything guy in the room workout genius. no you are in fact a fucking hypocrite liar seeking attention from immature uneducated low testosterone red necks. and just to be sure no lie goes un-noticed stool-troll a blatant russian supports him. I guess he's need a new apartment from putin. but trol boy is right we do need voting controls in place. just to protect from gerrymandering the districts, and crooks like Ohio blackwell and the jackass in NC. so just how are things at the kato institute of BS Lies. trickle down my ass.
#113701
Diver, are you suggesting I'm a "Russian operative" or something akin?

Are you aware that I served in the Army in a number of NATO and SEATO operations which worked against the hegemony of Russia and China?

Now, as to elections, I don't want ANYBODY elected via votes from illegals, but Democrats want open borders and no voter ID.

Why? Because Democrats want illegals to vote.
#113709
Well john yes I am, if not directly getting a paycheck from the Kremlin. though Cato could damn sure be close, then by default. you are directly spreading more false information, which directly helps russia. so ya, I guess your american flag waving russian. NO more turning away. just because you are (i'm sure your going to tells us) the hero of a few NATO ops does not clear you of being an operative I turn your attention to mr walker, conraad, lonetree, nicholson ames, manning possibly flynn. you fucking spies are everywhere. some even workout, lifting 5 lb weights, run a mile 'er two to stay fit. and most have huge egos.

and then mr im not a socialist, who is on life time heath care and retirement pay pipes in. who proves him/her -self, to be a lemming of mr opperative-troll's false and sixteenth truths brain shits.

Shame on all you. it is the duty to restrain and discourage the distractions of blatant BULLSHIT. on all sides!

Look I agree there is plenty to make legitimate disagreement comment on. and there is a reasonable thought to disagree on. but to make your campaign one of falsehood just to pray on the weak and feeble minded to get your way is a huckster move. SO if your not a witting or unwitting russian operative, are you a huckster?
#113777
actually John I wish I was trying to be funny. but alas no such luck... I'm very serious. and if you turned a thirty second of a brain cell on you would understand. but no you will not. so i'll make it easy for you.. . you are directly spreading more false information, which directly helps russia. ergo it makes you an accomplice. You can wrap yourself up in flags all you want but your just a partisan bullshit artist period. and your party du jour is hell bent on supplying russia with all kinds of direct help with every lie all bottles up and delivered. so you are a russian operative by default untill you walke up and start telling truths. even if they make no sense at all like trickle down economics. just tell the truth about it and why you support it. your party du jour wants to pollute the planet fine tell the truth... something like you just don't give a fuck as long as you or some fat cat wall street asshole makes a buck is more honest than there is no global warming and arsnic and coal ash is good for you... eat shit its organic.
#113783
divermouse wrote:actually John I wish I was trying to be funny. but alas no such luck... I'm very serious. and if you turned a thirty second of a brain cell on you would understand. but no you will not. so i'll make it easy for you.. . you are directly spreading more false information, which directly helps russia. ergo it makes you an accomplice. You can wrap yourself up in flags all you want but your just a partisan bullshit artist period. and your party du jour is hell bent on supplying russia with all kinds of direct help with every lie all bottles up and delivered. so you are a russian operative by default untill you walke up and start telling truths. even if they make no sense at all like trickle down economics. just tell the truth about it and why you support it. your party du jour wants to pollute the planet fine tell the truth... something like you just don't give a fuck as long as you or some fat cat wall street asshole makes a buck is more honest than there is no global warming and arsnic and coal ash is good for you... eat shit its organic.
you are so right DumpsterMouse. Hillary has been helping Russia in so many ways.. :lol: :lol:
#113784
Diver, there are elements of trickle up and trickle down which clearly work.

For example, if you hand out welfare checks, there is a small stimulative effect from buying food or soda pop or beer.

Trickle down affects the economy too. Consider a yacht owner who has to maintain, staff, and fuel his yacht. Obviously, poor people tend to be hired by rich people, and that helps poor people get by.

As to the theory that every person but Left Wing ideologues are helping Russia, that is the modern McCarthyism, and it is just as dumb as the original McCarthyism of the 1950s was.
#113818
No theory accounts for the complex whole of human behavior.

But trickle up works to some extent, and that is the appeal of socialism -- to take people from dire poverty to subsisting.

Trickle down obviously works to some degree too, as my example above shows and proves.

Let's say I buy a new Range Rover. The salesman makes some coin, and so will maintenance people, insurance people, etc.

So trickle down is not a clear failure.

Now, does it account for all economic activity. Of course not.
#113978
"By the way, the actual estimate is 834,000 illegals who may well have voted for Hillary..."-johnflubs

So now johnny is here claiming Hilary only won the election by 2 million votes instead of 3 million votes.

Thanks for telling us once again that Hillary won the popular vote by millions, johnny.

Did everyone notice that for some reason johnfibs neglected to provide a source for his made up story?

"May have gotten..." Funny, johnny.

And Trump "May have gotten" election assistance from Russia. :lol:
#114012
johnforbes "May have gotten" a source for his claims, or he may not.

I couldn't find it and he can't produce it. Therefore it's likely it doesn't exist.

If it did, johnny would be able to prove it. Most likely he doesn't want us to know that his source is "Stormfront" or some other such reputable conservatard site.

Imagine johnforbes down at the courthouse telling the judge he can find supporting evidence for all johnny's pointless claims somewhere on the "Interwebs". Strong argument, counselor. :lol:

The judge would hold him in the same contempt that I do.
#114031
Come on.

Each and every time this occurs, and somebody demands a source, guess what happens?

It turns out there is a source, and precisely the kind I mentioned there would be.

Because the study found that upwards of 834,000 votes for Hillary may well have stemmed from illegals.
#114064
Well I mentioned it before.
The census currently counts every head, not just citizens and residents. Because illegal aliens concentrate in "sanctuary" cities, those cities get extra congressional seats that are allocated by total population. It disenfranchises the voters from rural, less populated districts.

So yes illegals do count
#114074
johnny, I have no evidence that you have ANY sources whatsoever, let alone "credible" sources.

Without evidence, I give you as much credence as I do to RealTool and namangulfdumbfuck who simply make up stupid shit on a regular basis.

In fact, as far as evidence here goes, there isn't a single conservative who doesn't simply make up stupid shit to support their dimwitted beliefs. Why should I think you are any different?

All I see is you making sweeping assertions that you are invariably incapable of backing up or supporting in any way.

If you weren't always hypocritical about everything, it might be easier to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But up till now you haven't earned it. Quite the opposite.
#114083
Clownkicker wrote:It's days like this that prove johnforbes never graduated from law school.

Just imagine him trying to pull that idiotic shit in ANY class at Yale Law.

"Come on, Professor, look it up if you don't believe me." :lol:

You're a joke, johnny.
At lest hes not like you Komrad Klown. PUlling shit out of his ass pretending its facts.
#114088
"At lest hes not like you Your Lordship. PUlling shit out of his ass pretending its facts."-namandgulfdumbfuck

But that's exactly what he's doing, dimwit. He's pulling shit out of his ass pretending it's facts.
But you're right, he's not like me. I don't do that.

Just imagine johnflubs trying to pull that idiotic shit in ANY class at Yale Law.
"Come on, Professor, look it up if you don't believe me."

Remember, dumbfuck, you said if someone doesn't post a source or a link, then it's bullshit. YOU said it, you piss ant hypocrite.
johnforbes hasn't posted a source, but you support him instead of calling him on it. What a surprise, you useless turd.
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