[namngulfvet]

McCain Dead! Good radiance to the traitor. He and Komrad Clown make a perfect pair. Both hate this country and are Traitors

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ Here's more of the compassionate conservatism and support for our POWs and military Vets that the Right is famous for.

[elklindo69]

If heaven exists then McCain is in it....at least he'll never have to see Trump again.

[snakeoil]

Nam...That's a real nice thank you for 60 years of service to his country. From all of the tributes and accolades coming in from around the world, it appears you are in the minority.

[RealJustme]

What's very telling is that McCain is every libtard's sweetheart. Fact is McCain was no worse than any other Democrat, what conservatives have at issue is that McCain occupied a GOP position while betraying Republicans every chance he got. For what ever reason he seems to have become more of a liberal during his last 12 months, it's as if he was losing his mind. He was a veteran and he was an American, he deserves respect for that, but he was a very deceptive politician, may he rest in peace.

[sillydaddy]

That's a real nice thank you for 60 years of service to his country. From all of the tributes and accolades coming in from around the world, it appears you are in the minority.

I have always wondered why the Liberals gave the Oval Office to a man of dubious origins, raised a foreigner,
and can barely be called an "American"...instead of John McCain....? :o

[RealJustme]

McCain was the swamps' back up in case Obama lost, but McCain did everything he could to insure they didn't have to go to their backup plan.

[elklindo69]

What's very telling is that McCain is every libtard's sweetheart. Fact is McCain was no worse than any other Democrat, what conservatives have at issue is that McCain occupied a GOP position while betraying Republicans every chance he got. For what ever reason he seems to have become more of a liberal during his last 12 months, it's as if he was losing his mind. He was a veteran and he was an American, he deserves respect for that, but he was a very deceptive politician, may he rest in peace.

So the total number of Republicans with spines has gone from one to zero.

[elklindo69]

That's a real nice thank you for 60 years of service to his country. From all of the tributes and accolades coming in from around the world, it appears you are in the minority.

I have always wondered why the Liberals gave the Oval Office to a man of dubious origins, raised a foreigner,
and can barely be called an "American"...instead of John McCain....? :o

McCain has higher favorability ratings with the democrats than republicans....

It says a lot when a political party rejects their own war hero and principled Senator in favor of a 5-time draft-dodging and lie-spewing adulterer.

[RealJustme]

McCain has higher favorability ratings with the democrats than republicans....

Bingo! That's because McCain was a Democrat occupying a Republican seat.

Today Obama said McCain was a great American who helped him achieve many of his greatest accomplishments during his time as President. McCain also helped Obama even after Obama left office.

[johnforbes]

A veteran has a particular right to judge McCain in any way he sees fit.

I'm sorry he was a POW, and sorry he got cancer. However, even worse was his "service" in the Senate, where he did nothing at all for Vietnam veterans, and did absolutely nothing to secure the southern border.

Heck, McCain couldn't even vote to repeal Obamacare though he himself pledged to do that.

[elklindo69]

There was a trump staffer who made a joke about McCain dying of cancer.

Kelli Ward said McCain announcing he was ending cancer treatment was to hurt her campaign.

Trump mocked McCain for being captured while serving America....Trump dodged the draft 5 times

These are conservatards...And they are a bunch of awful shitheads.

[RealJustme]

Elk what that have to do with McCain being a bad pilot and Senator? Every person has their flaws, to deny McCain didn't is stupid, that doesn't mean he's a bad person, just one with flaws and misguided.

[johnforbes]

Elkin, please stop while you are behind.

Bill Clinton lied to his draft board while dodging the draft himself, and Biden dodged it, and we all know Blumenthal's dismal tale.

The Left is now pretending they think McCain was a "hero" because Trump questioned that.

If you really respect McCain, then be respectful instead of seeking to twist everything into some anti-Trump knot.

[namngulfvet]

McCain was Coward. On his last mission over Hanoi he chickened out claiming he was having engine problems. ON his way back with a yellow streak a mile wide and a mile long he was shot down. While imprisoned he was on the top 33 people of being a traitor. Nixon had to pardon the piece of slime when facing a court martial..

So down preach to me what hero he was. He did as much damage to this country as he could. McCain was a real Peice of shit Liberal Period!

FYI the only reason McCain went it was because his dad was General. Other wise he would have been protesting the Vietnam War with Hillary Klintooon.. So Fuck off you lib cocksuckers

[elklindo69]

Elkin, please stop while you are behind.

Bill Clinton lied to his draft board while dodging the draft himself, and Biden dodged it, and we all know Blumenthal's dismal tale.

The Left is now pretending they think McCain was a "hero" because Trump questioned that.

If you really respect McCain, then be respectful instead of seeking to twist everything into some anti-Trump knot.

Really John???

A strawman argument?

And it's not even a good one either. You attempt to absolve Trump by claiming others were draft dodgers as well.

That's feeble.

[elklindo69]

McCain was Coward. On his last mission over Hanoi he chickened out claiming he was having engine problems. ON his way back with a yellow streak a mile wide and a mile long he was shot down. While imprisoned he was on the top 33 people of being a traitor. Nixon had to pardon the piece of slime when facing a court martial..

So down preach to me what hero he was. He did as much damage to this country as he could. McCain was a real Peice of shit Liberal Period!

FYI the only reason McCain went it was because his dad was General. Other wise he would have been protesting the Vietnam War with Hillary Klintooon.. So Fuck off you lib cocksuckers

Trump was a spoiled asshole who dodged the draft 5 times because he didn't have the balls to hit the battlefield.

Trump figured that he was going to inherit a fortune from his daddy so he said to himself....going to war...fuck that. Trump is nothing more than a self serving dirtbag who will sacrifice nothing.

Trump does what's best for Trump.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, please stop while you're behind.

It's revolting that you are here supporting namandgulfdumbfuck saying "McCain Dead! Good radiance to the traitor."

And you didn't even correct his spelling for some reason, you hypocritical partisan douche bag.

[RealJustme]

Trump was a spoiled asshole who dodged the draft 5 times because he didn't have the balls to hit the battlefield.

Obama is a war vet because he wrote in his book that he ALMOST joined the military.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, that's not the same thing. It's REPUBLICANS who have continually criticized Dems for not serving or for draft dodging.

Now all of a sudden you fuckwads are just fine with a coward running the show.

That's because you are, to the last gutless weasel conservative, all partisan hypocrites.

[johnforbes]

Barry, like Hillary, was telling his only "war story" -- how he once thought about joining.

Or, more likely, pretended he once thought about it.

Clowntoker should stop while he is behind pretending he respects McCain.

Until he sought the presidency, the entire Left loved McCain, but then realized he was still pretending to be Republican and so they abandoned him and loved Barry far more.

McCain's entire life in the swamp involved pretending to be Repub to be elected, but of course he was an open borders Dem who couldn't even vote down the mess of Obamacare.

[RealJustme]

McCain's entire life in the swamp involved pretending to be Repub to be elected, but of course he was an open borders Dem who couldn't even vote down the mess of Obamacare.

Plus after Trump was elected, McCain was the only Republican working with the DNC to bring down Trump using the fake Steele Dossier, he personally hand delivered it directly to then-FBI Director Comey for the DNC.

[elklindo69]

I bet if Putin were dead, Trump would host up the Russian flag over the White House and fly it at half mast.

What a petty asshole....

[namngulfvet]

I bet if Putin were dead, Trump would host up the Russian flag over the White House and fly it at half mast.

What a petty asshole....

Only in your dreams Komrad Elkshit

[sillydaddy]

Notice how Elk attacks the President for "hoisting the Russian flag over the White House and flying it a half mast.."

Elk has lost his grip on reality...He ACTUALLY believes The President did that..! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[RealJustme]

Democrats lost their "sleeper' in the Senate who they could always count on to undermine Republicans when he was needed. McCain even tried helping them remove Trump after he was elected by passing on the fake Dossier to Comey. When he voted against those who elected him and cast the deciding vote to keep Obama Care, the Democrat's investment in paid off.

[johnforbes]

The details are not clear, but apparently Brennan shopped the fake dossier around to Senators Reid and McCain, knowing both hated Trump and would spread it.

He later testified to Congress that he did not know who paid for the dossier, although how could he not know?

[sillydaddy]

I guess all those that praise McCain ..
have conveniently forgotten about the Keating 5 scandal..

maybe it will open your eyes as what an asshole McCain was...! :o

[johnforbes]

He also left his first wife for a pretty heiress to a beer distribution fortune.

What did McCain do to help his fellow Viet vets? Nothing.

What did he do to make E-Verify mandatory? Nothing.

[RealJustme]

He also left his first wife for a pretty heiress to a beer distribution fortune

The sad part was McCain left his first wife after her illness developed to a stage she was wheel chair bound, after all the years she stood by him helping him recover from his injuries.

[elklindo69]

How about this..... the current President is a 5-time draft-dodger who conspired with America’s enemies refuses to fly the flag half-mast for a POW war hero. Trump neither respects our flag or our military.

[johnforbes]

Come on, Elkin.

You have zero respect for McCain because he was nominally a Republican.

Face it, McCain appeared on so many ridiculous TV talk shows that "Meet the Press" and "Face the Nation" kept a coffee mug with "Johnny" on it.

CNN and MSNBC talking about McCain as a "hero," that now is rich.

[elklindo69]

Trump raised the WH flag to disrespect McCain. Trump refused to acknowledge McCain's service to the nation because McCain criticized and hurt Trump's feelings.

What a loser...

[RealJustme]

Trump raised the WH flag to disrespect McCain. Trump refused to acknowledge McCain's service to the nation because McCain criticized and hurt Trump's feelings.

We get it, McCain's death is a big loss to Democrats, but that's fake news. First of all the flag was lowered after McCain's death. Second of all, Trump doesn't raise flags at the White House, no President has. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[elklindo69]

Trump is a five time draft dodger who conspired with Russia to undermine the country and refused to fly the flag at half staff to honor McCain also likes to criticize NFL players who exercise their 1st amendment rights by claiming they are not patriotic?

[RealJustme]

Trump is a five time draft dodger who conspired with Russia to undermine the country and refused to fly the flag at half staff to honor McCain

Fake news dude!

"Despite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCain’s service to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment," said Trump.

[namngulfvet]

Trump is a five time draft dodger who conspired with Russia to undermine the country and refused to fly the flag at half staff to honor McCain also likes to criticize NFL players who exercise their 1st amendment rights by claiming they are not patriotic?

Care to prove this Dude! We know you pulled it out of Clowns asshole as usual so you cant prove it... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Whats funny Elk is you dont even know why you hate Trump outside of the fact that your Clowns minion and cant think for yourself.. You have be told what to think and how to think. If you could think on your own you would see all the good Trump has done for this country. Wages up, jobs up, stock marked at an all time high, trade marked coming into place. The only way you could hate this is if your a hard core Communist who wants the Gov to run your life 24/7. Which means your going to throw away a good education and a six figure salary. Because you know the Gov isnt going to give you six figures. Clown being the union hack he is would be better off with Socialism. Hes been trained to obey without question from day one. Lets face it every Monday he gets out his knee pads to get all his union bosses a blow job to make sure hes still in the good with them. Clown aka Lesh aka Dizzy from the spin aka .... has always been a union hack looser and always well be.

Bottom line Elk its time to put on your big boy pants and think for yourself

[johnforbes]

If Elkin had been of draft age during Vietnam, he would have dodged the draft himself.

Even Elkin has to be honest enough to admit that he would have?

[elklindo69]

WOAH John!!!

You were able piece together an ad hominem attack and a strawman argument...all in one thought!

LMFAO!

:lol:

[RealJustme]

If there was ever any doubt who McCain was working with, there can be none now!

Sens. Charles Schumer put forth a resolution that would rename the Russell Senate Office Building, named in honor of former Democratic Sen. Richard Brevard Russell (Ga.), after McCain.

:shock:

[johnforbes]

Be honest with yourself for a second, Elkin.

It you had been under the enormous pressure of that era, you would have wilted just as so many others (Dem and Repub) did.

Think about it just as an interesting question for you personally, and not just the drivel posted on some forum.

Ask yourself, Elkin: Would you have been man enough to go, or would you have tried to weasel out?

This was a question which caused me to ask: If I didn't go, who should? My older brother who was a teacher with two kids? My younger siblings were too young.

I was big and fit, with excellent eyesight (no spectacles even today).

Should I have dodged? Could you live with yourself if you did dodge?

These were serious questions, character issues, life and death matters, and we faced them as kids.

Elkin, when you were 18, did you sign a life insurance policy and consider your own mortality? We all had to.

[Clownkicker]

"This was a question which caused me to ask: If I didn't go, who should?"-johnforbes

You missed the point, johnny, as you still do. The correct answer was "Nobody should go."
It had been clear for years that the war was a crime against humanity.
And it had nothing to do with U.S. defense.

You made the mistake of accepting 'the man's' false premise and it paralyzed you intellectually.
Unable to think for yourself, you knuckled under. It's perfectly understandable, if sad. The powers that be intentionally raised you and educated you to be unable to think for yourself. That's why you still can't think for yourself to this day. You still misapply what education you have and simply parrot a party line, as we see here on a daily basis. You are utterly unable to ever criticize your own party when they are wrong or hypocritical.

When confronted with a devastating argument, you do not accept it at last. You desperately maintain your existing "Weltbild" and slink off into unfunny jokes because you know you are unable to refute the argument. Pathetic evasions for lack of rational arguments are your stock and trade.

[johnforbes]

Yes, in an ideal world, nobody should go.

But we don't live in an ideal world, and millions did go.

As to the war, absent the American stabilizing influence, SE Asia reaped the whirlwind and 2 million died.

When you say "stock and trade," the cliché you are looking for would be "stock in trade." (You are welcome.)

[Clownkicker]

johnny, 2 million died when we were there, only WE were the ones causing the deaths, so by that measure we were no better than 'nothing' weren't we. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

The "ideal world" argument is the refuge of the morally lazy. As I said, by the time you were drafted, the Vietnam War was clearly an atrocity being perpetrated by us and not some distant and unrelatable "bad guy" Taliban or Al Qaida.

That millions did go does not exonerate one from one's own moral choices. You will live with those until you die, as will I.
It doesn't help to make excuses for or just ignore the choices you made.

But notice, since you could not defend your choices or make an argument, you slither away by jumping on brain farts once again. It's pretty much all you have. (You are welcome.)

[namngulfvet]

Hey komrade Clown did you go visit McCain to give him a good bye blow job

[johnforbes]

But Clown, you are evading the real question.

If you were young and healthy and 1-A, what would you have done?

Do you really think it was ethical for people to pretend they were gay, pretend they were on drugs, pretend they were sick, or to run away to Canada?

Young soldiers are not called upon to debate foreign policy, but to implement it at the behest of their elders.

Also, it goes to George Patton's question: What will you tell other people later, that you ran away, that you left the job to somebody else?

If you look at the "Willie and Joe" cartoons, those serving in WW II would have rather been elsewhere.

[namngulfvet]

But Clown, you are evading the real question.

If you were young and healthy and 1-A, what would you have done?

Do you really think it was ethical for people to pretend they were gay, pretend they were on drugs, pretend they were sick, or to run away to Canada?

Young soldiers are not called upon to debate foreign policy, but to implement it at the behest of their elders.

Also, it goes to George Patton's question: What will you tell other people later, that you ran away, that you left the job to somebody else?

If you look at the "Willie and Joe" cartoons, those serving in WW II would have rather been elsewhere.

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[Clownkicker]

But johnny, I'm not evading anything. I'm not like you. I always face reality.

I WAS young and healthy and 1-A, and I know exactly what I did.

I think it was ethical for anyone to avoid conscription into an immoral war at any cost. (It still is.)
But it would have been best if all of us simply said "no" (then and now) when the government told us they had the right to turn us into murderers for an unjustifiable cause.

Young soldiers are not called upon to debate foreign policy, but to implement it at the behest of their elders.
However,the error you're making here is that the only way to escape that trap is to refuse to become a soldier for those elders in the first place when you know you will be used for immoral purposes of those who are too cowardly to either fight themselves or send their own sons first.

Also, it goes to George Patton's question: What will you tell other people later, that you ran away, that you left the job to somebody else? But the problem with bringing up Patton is that Patton's war was a necessary and moral war, unlike Vietnam, which nobody could ever successfully justify. Johnson and McNamara didn't even try. They knew the truth and sent people to die anyway, and for nothing.

If you look at the "Willie and Joe" cartoons, those serving in WW II would have rather been elsewhere.
If you look at news video during the Vietnam war, those serving should never have been there in the first place, unlike "Willie and Joe", so the comparison is disingenuous and flawed.

[Clownkicker]

I appreciate namandgulf's post in support of my position on this thread.

He usually just comes to tell us about his asshole licking fetish for some reason.

[namngulfvet]

Komrad Clownlicker posted: I think it was ethical for anyone to avoid conscription into an immoral war at any cost. (It still is.)
But it would have been best if all of us simply said "no" (then and now) when the government told us they had the right to turn us into murderers for an unjustifiable cause.

This is Clowns way of saying hes a yellow belly asshole licking Coward! That he would rather run then fight for his freedom.

Which is obvious from all his Anti hate American post and the Criminals he and his ilk support