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By snakeoil
#105571
Whether President Trump is a Manchurian candidate—cultivated for leadership here by an enemy nation to damage our country—or simply feckless is almost irrelevant at this point. It would be satisfying to know, but immaterial, given the president’s behavior. Trump’s actions, even if motivated by ill-founded concepts or desperate self-preservation rather than allegiance to a hostile foreign power, are deeply injurious to the welfare of the United States.

Rather than confronting Vladimir Putin for interfering in the 2016 election, Trump gave the Russian leader’s professions of innocence the same weight as the unanimous conclusion of American intelligence agencies: “President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.” The charge of Russian malfeasance had been reiterated by Dan Coats the previous day, and was repeated again by the director of national intelligence after the alarming press conference featuring Trump and Putin: “We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security.” Trump received that information in advance of the Putin meeting not only from Coats, but also from the Justice Department, which briefed him on the Mueller indictments before their issuance.

Rather than demand the extradition of Russian individuals named in the special counsel’s indictment for their personal involvement in election tampering, Trump invited Russia to interrogate the American intelligence personnel who had reached those conclusions. The president of the United States invited a hostile foreign power into the inner workings of our intelligence assessments and legal processes. Not only does that create a false equivalence between the rule of law in our country and in a country where political dissidents are shot in the streets, it would be a bonanza of sources and methods for Russian intelligence, improving their ability to subvert the rule of law and further foment bitter political divides in our country.

I passionately hope Stephen Sestanovich proves right, and that the president’s overt alignment with a murderous dictator proves a turning point for Republicans in Congress. The president has moved beyond disgraceful. He’s now genuinely dangerous.
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By RealJustme
#105574
So Russia took out Face Book ads trying to disrupt and cause confusion among Americans...let's nuke them :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump is setting the new standard for future leaders and it's scaring the shit out of Democrats. Soros has even admitted, things have changed under Trump and his socialist agenda has been derailed.
By johnforbes
#105578
Snakeoil's original article is ludicrous.

What president since Reagan has been tougher on Russia?

The first McCarthy Era featured Repubs looking for Russians under every bed until Welch said:

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

Today, Democrats -- who were the victims of the first McCarthy Era -- are the perpetrators.

At long last, Dems, have you no sense of decency?
By Clownkicker
#105579
johnforbes' post is ludicrous.

As he has been told several times, McCarthy wasn't looking for Russians. He was looking for communists inside our government.

Now no one is looking for communists, so his comparison to a "new Red scare" is idiotic.
And no one is looking for Russians inside our government either. They are looking for Russians involved in hacking and election tampering; an entirely different thing from the moronic assertions and comparisons johnforbes is now perpetrating. And there is overwhelming evidence that the tampering actually occurred, unlike the purely imaginary communists inside our government in the McCarthy era.

johnforbes has been told he is wrong more than once. He knows he is lying about it. It is intentional on his part.

At long last, johnforbes, have you no sense of decency?
By johnforbes
#105580
Clowntoker has no sense of decency.

McCarthy was looking for Russians and communists.
What president since Reagan has been tougher on Russia?

The first McCarthy Era featured Repubs looking for Russians under every bed until Welch said:

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

Today, Democrats -- who were the victims of the first McCarthy Era -- are the perpetrators.

At long last, Dems, have you no sense of decency?
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By RealJustme
#105587
RealTool doesn't care if Russia appoints our leaders.
Dude, you missed the election, voters picked our President. Even Hillary and Obama declared there is no voter fraud and no reason for anyone to question the election results. If you allowed a Russian Face Book ad to alter you mind, that's on you bro! :D
By Clownkicker
#105589
^^^^See? RealTool actually came back just to say he doesn't care if Russia appoints our leaders.

He made it clear he isn't the least bit concerned about it.

It's always strange when these tools here come to admit that I'm right, but they still pretend I'm wrong somehow. :shock:
By Clownkicker
#105590
Incidentally, Tool, voters didn't pick our President. Voters picked Hillary by 3 million votes.

The Electoral College, not voters, picked our President.
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By RealJustme
#105591
Incidentally, Tool, voters didn't pick our President. Voters picked Hillary by 3 million votes.

The Electoral College, not voters, picked our President.
You still a sore loser? Hillary was playing checkers and Trump was playing chess, he understood the electoral system and targeted voters to take advantage of it, Hillary on the other hand thought she was owed the position.
By Clownkicker
#105593
^^^^^^^Again, RealTool returns to admit that I'm right, that voters didn't pick our President, but he still has to pretend I'm wrong somehow.

And then he pretends it somehow makes his lie true. :shock:
By johnforbes
#105597
Clown is part of McCarthyism Redux and has no sense of decency.

The first McCarthy Era featured Repubs looking for Russians under every bed until Welch said:

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

Today, Democrats -- who were the victims of the first McCarthy Era -- are the perpetrators.

At long last, Dems, have you no sense of decency?
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