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By elklindo69
#105079
POPLAR BLUFF, Mo. — Steel tariffs could force the nation’s largest nail manufacturer to close or move to Mexico.

The Mid-Continent Nail plant in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, laid off 60 of its 500 workers last week because of increased steel costs. The company blames the 25% tariff on imported steel. Orders for nails plunged 50% after the company raised its prices to deal with higher steel costs.

The company is in danger of shutting production by Labor Day unless the Commerce Department grants it an exclusion from paying the tariffs, company spokesman James Glassman told CNN’s Poppy Harlow.

Mid-Continent Nail is “on the brink of extinction,” he said.

Glassman said the company might relocate to Mexico, where it could buy the steel without the tariffs — and then export the finished nails back to the United States without tariffs, which only apply to raw materials.

“It’s obviously an option,” said Glassman about moving to Mexico. “It absolutely is something this company does not want to do. It wants to save the jobs in Poplar Bluff, Missouri.”

Glassman called President Donald Trump’s trade policy misguided. He noted that the company had doubled its work force since 2013, and thrived despite increased competition from China.
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By namngulfvet
#105083
Clownkicker wrote:"YAAAANNNNNN!" :shock:

So who's babbling now, dumbfuck? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Loks like you are ClownLicker... this is the most boring post I have seen on here in years.. Elkdoofus cant think on his own anymore.. the stupid fuck wad. But then neither can you...
By divermouse
#105090
they just don't care about anything but destruction. never did. pretending to be "patriotic americans, when what they blatantly are is russian tools. HD is moving part of it's plant to the EU also. now the fat assees can drink from their vespas and dream on about their hard workin' 48k career jobs with their plastic jesus statues rebel flags, and their glory days that never happened. continuing to vote for 1%-ers to get a larger tax breaks. all of whom can't imagine someone making their annual sallary by lunch every fuckin day.
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By namngulfvet
#105092
divermouse wrote:they just don't care about anything but destruction. never did. pretending to be "patriotic americans, when what they blatantly are is russian tools. HD is moving part of it's plant to the EU also. now the fat assees can drink from their vespas and dream on about their hard workin' 48k career jobs with their plastic jesus statues rebel flags, and their glory days that never happened. continuing to vote for 1%-ers to get a larger tax breaks. all of whom can't imagine someone making their annual sallary by lunch every fuckin day.
Not sure what boat you fell of off. Harley's biggest issues is its union. The union is costing them big time. Harleys are so fucking over priced its stupid. Now all they can do is whine about it.
By divermouse
#105126
union the problem? again don't let truth get in the way of a good story. straight up question; are you a russian spy? if your not, then brother open your eyes. you are being used.
union wages at HD $14 to $28. wow a labor windfall. you gotta be kidding. my bet is nobody on this board makes less than $40 hr and if math is to hard for ya that's 80k
By elklindo69
#105129
Trump's tariffs are costing Harley Davidson some 100 million dollars a year. So they will be shifting more production out of the country.

Now Trump seems to be an overseas job creator....
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By namngulfvet
#105133
elklindo69 wrote:Trump's tariffs are costing Harley Davidson some 100 million dollars a year. So they will be shifting more production out of the country.

Now Trump seems to be an overseas job creator....
Drivermouse your correct about the wages. Still Harleys are way over priced. Even though I own one and love it they are expensive compared to other bikes of the same style...
By johnforbes
#105138
Yes, in many ways, Harley is a special case.

If you reside in Europe and want to buy one, you may have to pay almost double the U.S. asking price.

If you evaluate any item which consumers really like, whether a Rolex watch or a Harley, it will look like what it really is, a special case.
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By namngulfvet
#105139
elklindo69 wrote:Trump's tariffs are costing Harley Davidson some 100 million dollars a year. So they will be shifting more production out of the country.

Now Trump seems to be an overseas job creator....
Harley was having issues prior to any of Trumps actions. their sales have slowed way down and this has been months ago. Maybe Elkdoofus if you would have done your home work you would know this.
By divermouse
#105153
namngulfvet "Still Harleys are way over priced. Even though I own one and love it they are expensive compared to other bikes of the same style..."

ya and louis Vutton hand bags cost $800- $3000. a wal-mart crap bag cost $20, BOTH Are bags... it's called capitalism. I love my harley too, it's taken me across this great land 7 times and alaska.
and I love both my $980 mont blancs. a 20 cent bic pen would write but somehow it's more fun with a gold nib fountain pen.

"Harley was having issues prior to any of Trumps actions. their sales have slowed way down and this has been months ago.

which started with frank / graham, clinton / bush blind eye deregulation collapse of the fake AAA BS bond rating goldman sacks redirect. and of course millennial's apparently can't afford one due to that collapse. helped along by a special political parties desire to kill unions that get workers a livable wage. keep fighting unions, continue the lie. sooner than you think your wage falls also. economics, a big whirling connected monster.
By johnforbes
#105165
Some of this is mere consumer choice.

I have an old Rolex bought in Zurich long ago. Bought on leave while in USAREUR.

But I have a new Timex with a leather strap which cost 40 bucks and keeps good time.
By elklindo69
#105172
Harley Davidson has a tremendous amount of brand equity. Riders get Harley tattoos. How many people get Trump tattoos?

By shifting production overseas to avoid being penalized 100 million dollars in Trump tariffs, Harley management did what was best for shareholders. And Trump is whining about what they did?

Trump only does what's best for Trump. Including running businesses into the ground...
By sillydaddy
#105173
Harley is just making noise...trying to ride the media train with the President...
Harley has tried to move it's operations overseas before...
In fact , when Michael Moore was in Italy making a movie about Ducati Motorcycles
and how well they treat their employees compared to factory emloyees in the US....
Ducati was trying to sell it's operations lock, stock and barrel to Harley.....Harley declined...Why?
Because the profits Harley is used to...just aren't there..

In a good year Ducati sells 50,000 motorcycles... Harley needs to sell 50,000 motorcycles a month.. :o
By elklindo69
#105190
There will come a time when Trump's trade wars cost his supporters their jobs, and they’ll have more time to spend on social media owning libtards.

Not sure if many Trumpards can afford Harleys...
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By namngulfvet
#105194
elklindo69 wrote:There will come a time when Trump's trade wars cost his supporters their jobs, and they’ll have more time to spend on social media owning libtards.

Not sure if many Trumpards can afford Harleys...
What the fuck has tattoos got to do with shit.

Im glad you dont mind getting screwed by other countries because the last two or three presidents didnt give a shit about America. Now that Trump is trying to level the playing field so we dont get screwed. you Boo him and whine about it. Me I dont like getting the shaft like you do.
By elklindo69
#105201
namngulfvet wrote:
elklindo69 wrote:There will come a time when Trump's trade wars cost his supporters their jobs, and they’ll have more time to spend on social media owning libtards.

Not sure if many Trumpards can afford Harleys...
What the fuck has tattoos got to do with shit.

Im glad you dont mind getting screwed by other countries because the last two or three presidents didnt give a shit about America. Now that Trump is trying to level the playing field so we dont get screwed. you Boo him and whine about it. Me I dont like getting the shaft like you do.
You think it's bad now.

Wait and see what happens when Trump's tariffs hit the auto industry...
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By namngulfvet
#105203
You think it's bad now.

Wait and see what happens when tariffs hit the auto industry...
Elkdoofus thanks for admitting your way to stupid to understand whats going on. Try to get your head out of Clowns butthole then maybe you can see thing clearly
By elklindo69
#105225
So let me get something straight here....

First Trump claimed that he would bring back manufacturing jobs like Harley Davidson back to the country.

Then Trump started a trade war with the Europeans by imposing tariffs...and then the Europeans retaliated by imposing tariffs on US manufactured motorcycles which forced Harley to send jobs overseas.

Now Trump is threatening to impose a tax on Harley to penalize them for sending jobs overseas...WHICH WAS TRUMP'S FAULT TO BEGIN WITH!!!

The art of the deal!

MAGA!!!

:lol:
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By namngulfvet
#105226
elklindo69 wrote:So let me get something straight here....

First Trump claimed that he would bring back manufacturing jobs like Harley Davidson back to the country.

Then Trump started a trade war with the Europeans by imposing tariffs...and then the Europeans retaliated by imposing tariffs on US manufactured motorcycles which forced Harley to send jobs overseas.

Now Trump is threatening to impose a tax on Harley to penalize them for sending jobs overseas...WHICH WAS TRUMP'S FAULT TO BEGIN WITH!!!

The art of the deal!

MAGA!!!

:lol:
Tell us oh great google attorney. How is Trump going to impose a tax on Harley all by himself? Talk about fear mongering
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