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By snakeoil
#58115
Much like the Obama Health Care Law (you can't see it until you pass it) the Trans-Pacific Pact is following the same route.

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It seems like a case of mass hypnosis. People claiming they can’t say what’s in the TPP trade agreement. And mainstream media accept this premise.

“That’s right. Congress must stay silent.”

Pop quiz: who says the text of the TPP must remain secret?

Under what authority?

Members of Congress are scuttling around like weasels, claiming they can’t disclose what’s in this far-reaching, 12-nation trade treaty.

They can go into a sealed room and read a draft, but they can’t copy pages, and they can’t tell the public what they just read.

Why not?

If there is a US law forbidding disclosure, name the law.

Can you recall anything in the Constitution that establishes secret treaties?

Is there a prior treaty that states the text of all treaties can be hidden from the people?

I see no authority anywhere that justifies withholding the text of the TPP.
By Benny
#58117
Well of course you are correct. But the protectors of the wealthy and business classes will always do as they are told.

Always.
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By RealJustme
#58119
Pop quiz: who says the text of the TPP must remain secret?

Under what authority?
Obama has used his executive power once again to circumvent normal procedures, the only difference this time liberals are getting their panties in wad this time. Suck it up, I didn't vote for him.
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By Malcolm
#58223
Have we learned nothing from thirty years of failed trickle-down economics?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-re ... 00392.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/049744_Congr ... hange.html
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... t-20-years

The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods. -- HL Mencken
By Clownkicker
#58323
Never mind him, Malcolm. Insipid lives in an angry, delusional world where you are not you and I am not me. He insists there are only two liberals on this board; Grog and myself. He thinks that I am a guy who called himself Lucky (who hasn't been here for three years or so since the board went down when Igor left) and all the rest are supposed to be socks of mine and Grog's. What motive Grog and I are supposed to have for creating these others, and why no other liberals would ever post here, nobody knows. Even Insipid doesn't pretend to know because it's such a stupid, mentally ill theory.

His statement that socks may be "dismissed out of hand" let slip his own self-loathing, (presumably because his own mother always dismissed him out of hand for being vile little boy.) From that post onward, everybody has dismissed his paranoid, angry, hateful posts "out of hand."
Fortunately, you too can dismiss Insipid "out of hand" because he is merely the sock puppet of a sour douche bag named PainfulTooth who regularly got his ass handed to him years ago by Lucky. That's why he is still obsessed by Lucky all these years later. Insipid's obsession with me now only reveals that I must be kicking his ass as well as Lucky always did. Anyone who shows Insipid to be the douche bag he is, in his mind, MUST be Lucky, because who else could own his sorry ass so completely?


Now let's watch Insipid do his tired Dervish routine for us on command, spitting and sputtering impotently.
He's an hilarious (if tragic) entertainment.
Let's look for these trademark elements:
1. He calls me "Lucky"
2. Vitriol and bile
3. Dances maniacally and
4. Sputtering impotence.
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By RealJustme
#58324
He insists there are only two liberals on this board; Grog and myself.
He's correct, using different screen names, doesn't make you a different person. Conservatives rule this forum, live with it.
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