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By elklindo69
#13503
When you cut through all of the bullshit and hit the heart of the matter.

Neither Romney nor Ryan won their home states. They along with the teabaggers, they are completely out of touch.........
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By RealJustme
#13511
That's it justme? After all your talk, that's it? Mighty erudite
Not sure what erudite means but many of us will take great pleasure watching Democrats try and blame the next 4 years on Bush. Like I said in 2008 when it was clear Obama was about to be elected...buy Gold, our economy is about to be destroyed, my advice still stands. Also I'd advice you to keep your powder dry, things are about to get rough when the bad checks bounce and the milk cow runs dry. ;)
By justdoit
#13590
Ya know Justme I was wishing
I was wishing, that even for a short time you might have been gracious in the loss of Romney. I mean He was, he made a good speach in his loss, not vindictive, not hateful. It would have been nice if you as a man would have the same intregrity. You still can, you can still think of the country first over that worn out "them or us" mentality that has done nothing but seperate us as a union.
By BilboBagend
#13592
Remember, justupid is the piece of shit kind of person that Romney pandered to in gaining the nomination of his party. No matter hpow gracious his defeat we need to remember how we all got to this point. Radical reactionary extremest conservatism in all it's aspects has been rejected.
By justdoit
#13610
Bilibobagend
Bro, that does little to help. By now I would hope we would figure out its going to be a herculean task to get this country's debt under control. Bohner and Mitchell are going to have a tough time controling the tea party radicals. But if their unable they will not win another major election. Ol fat white guys are indeed the minority now, last night proves it. When a Black man, with a name of Hussain owning an excess of 8% unemployment can win again should say volumes. And until both parties can work accross the aisle we will only slide farther down the abiss. Boehner last night inicated he's willing, Moconnell played the same ol song that got the reps in a losing race again last night. I guess he's just a fat ol white guy playing to the tea party mantra. And thats not what this country needs or requires. Theres plenty of blame to go around from both sides of the aisle, but we need to put that behind us, and work for a common goal.
By BilboBagend
#13614
Fixing the economy combined with an appropriate reduction in unnecessary spending, mostly military and old industry support, and return to rational fair taxes for all will fix the debt.

What won't fix the debt is restrictive economic policy and tax cuts for the wealthy. Those policies has been proved so many times over history to be total disasters.

Real free trade markets and elimination of oligopoly, monopoly, corporate isolation from responsibility, corporate fraud, etc will help fix the economy. No more Bush type bubbles being created will fix the economy. No more gambling in our financial markets will fix the economy. The Republican abuse by privatizing Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will break the economy, gicing wind fall profits to already corrupt financial institutions.
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By RealJustme
#13615
Ya know Justme I was wishing
I was wishing, that even for a short time you might have been gracious in the loss of Romney. I mean He was, he made a good speach in his loss, not vindictive, not hateful.
Who said I'm not gracious? I'm not a foaming at the mouth liberals who whines and threatens violence when my canidate loses. It was a well fought campaign and Romney lost. It's my opinion America also lost.

Dow down 250 already this morning...got gold?
By BilboBagend
#13632
The real economy is people providing goods and services for people. Employmet and technological efficiency are the key factors in the real economy. Populatio0n growth is purely an inflation factor representing the inflation due to having more people. GDP CAN go up while the return to the people goes down. Meet the Bush years and the crash.

The markets and all monetary indices are poor tokens representing the real economy.

If you wanted a real index into the economy it would be "real dollars returned to the bottom 85% of the population per person in the 85%. Also, since they spend all they get, it would be spending by the bottom 85%.

When a stock goes up it mostly represents speculation. Any short term gain or loss is purely speculation and is almost exclusively emotional. So, yes, the top 1% are pissed today. Tomorrow will differ as they get back to skimming the real economy. Taking most of the production and services for themselves, and putting away huge promissory notes on future production and services.

When GDP goes up it's mostly population growth and inflation.
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By RealJustme
#13639
The markets and all monetary indices are poor tokens representing the real economy.
Ignore the bad markets, ignore the increasing numbers of those living in poverty, ignore the huge climbing debt, ignore the high unemployement numbers...those have nothing to do with indicators of how the economy is doing. So lets take those false indicators out and we're doing fine. :roll:
By elklindo69
#13642
RealJustme wrote:
The markets and all monetary indices are poor tokens representing the real economy.
Ignore the bad markets, ignore the increasing numbers of those living in poverty, ignore the huge climbing debt, ignore the high unemployement numbers...those have nothing to do with indicators of how the economy is doing. So lets take those false indicators out and we're doing fine. :roll:
If the teaparty doesn't obstruct progress in the debt talks then things should be fine. They knocked US credit rating down from AAA to AA. And now the baggers are on notice that obstructionism will not be tolerated any longer, they need to get shit done...
By BilboBagend
#13643
Justupid,

You do have an active delusional imagination. All off on you own thinking thought independent of anything that has ever been said. It is interesting to see the functioning of a malignant schizophrenic mind like yours.
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By RealJustme
#13660
Ignore the bad markets, ignore the increasing numbers of those living in poverty, ignore the huge climbing debt, ignore the high unemployement numbers...those have nothing to do with indicators of how the economy is doing. So lets take those false indicators out and we're doing fine.

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