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#138251
Trump IS the swamp. He's happily rolling around in it.

"Scoop: Trump's $500 million post-election windfall"

"President-elect Trump is being inundated with so much money from corporations and wealthy donors that his team expects to raise about $500 million by summer — even though he can't run again, sources in his operation tell Axios.

Why it matters: By stockpiling so much cash, Trump is signaling he doesn't want to be seen as a lame duck in his second term, and is ready to help political allies, punish opponents and help Republicans keep full control of Congress in 2026.

"The money is just pouring in at Mar-a-Lago. Trump doesn't have to lift a finger. Everyone's coming to him," said a Trump adviser who was among five insiders to speak with Axios anonymously to describe the inner workings of Trump's operation.
"We're looking at half a billion [dollars] by June, and we're on track," this adviser said. "It's sort of a target but it's just a realistic projection of what's happening."

"Zoom in: Trump's donors are giving to a variety of accounts.

They include the president-elect's inauguration account, the MAGA Inc. super PAC, a political nonprofit called Securing American Greatness, the Republican National Committee and Trump's presidential library fund.
The donors run the gamut: from health care to agriculture, insurance, financial institutions, tech and cryptocurrency investors.
"The crypto guys are just blowing it out," the Trump adviser said. "It used to be $1 million was a big number. Now we're looking at some folks giving like $10 [million] or $20 million."
"If the tech guys are giving big, it makes everyone give," another Trump adviser added."-Axios

This is the government Republicans have been dreaming of. If you're rich enough you do whatever you damn well please.
So much for 'the little guy' that the MAGA base has been duped into believing will benefit from Trump.
It's all about money and the alligators you know, and they aren't even trying to hide it any longer.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump- ... wtab-en-us
#138252
Clowntoker's comments always have to be taken cum grano salis.

In the case of Joe Biden's presidential library, some of the documents could be stored in old cardboard boxes next to some oil stains from his vintage Corvette.

In terms of a running commentary on public office, Hunter's infamous laptop could provide a window into the seedy reality of hookers and illegal drugs -- a diary different from Pepys.
#138257
As always, johnforbes is concerned about a couple boxes in Biden's garage that were freely returned but not the 300+ boxes in Trump's bathroom that had to be carried out with a search warrant against Trump's resistence.

This is why he is concerned about a few thousand dollars any time a Democrat does something shady, but he doesn't care at all that Trump is collecting millions for himself. This is how out of touch with reality johnforbes is.

Then Dishonestjohn falls back on Hunter again, a nobody who had nothing to do with corruption in government as demonstrated by the years-long Republican investigation that came up with nothing. He is concerned about Hunter's involvement with drugs and hookers, but is insistent that Gaetz (someone actually IN government) should be left alone despite an ethics committee's serious findings and get off scot-free regarding HIS involvement with drugs and hookers.

This exemplifies johnforbes' intellectual impotence. He can't argue a case so he can only attempt to divert from the real problems we face in this country and focusing on people and things that aren't a problem at all to this country.

How does johnforbes explain such hatred for America that he wants to allow known criminals to roam the Whitehouse and Congress with impunity while repeatedly shitting his pants over a petty criminal that has no impact on our government?

And how does johnforbes explain his utter lack of concern with a President collecting a $500 million slush fund as he begins his tenure in his own swamp?
#138267
The PRA was not even a criminal statute, so they had to dredge up some espionage law from WW I in order to attempt to pin something on Trump.

And they were unable to.

Whatever Trump had at Mar a Lago was in a locked cage in the basement -- secure and climate-controlled. And a president coulld have declassified it all.

Biden, as Senator and VP, had no such power. And records were found in a closet at the Penn Biden Center, in a rotting cardboard box in a non-secure garage next to cleaning supplies and brooms.

And, presumably, cases of Geritol...
#138272
"...so they had to dredge up some espionage law from WW I in order to attempt to pin something on Trump. And they were unable to."-Lyingturdbag

Meanwhile, johnforbes and other Trump supporters support Texas dredging up a laws from the Civil War era to pass anti-woman laws preventing autonomy over their own bodies. johnforbes doesn't believe that laws nearly a century older than the WWI law shouldn't apply today. So why shouldn't a far more recent law still apply? It's like Trump supporters are picking and choosing which antiquated laws they support. And mysteriously, they are all interpretations that conveniently benefit Republicans.

Of course "they" were NOT unable to pin something on Trump. There were three more active court cases pending against him, and if he hadn't been re-elected, he would be on his way to prison by now. Why would johnfibs pretend there weren't? It's all over the news for the past couple of years.

The ONLY reason the the criminal case over stealing the classified documents isn't with a jury is that the Justice Department doesn't prosecute sitting Presidents. You know this and you lied about it anyway.


"Whatever Trump had at Mar a Lago was in a locked cage in the basement..."-Dishonestjohn

johnny, a bathroom is not a "locked cage". Neither is a stage in a ballroom a "locked cage". And neither is Trump's bedroom a "locked cage". Why are you blatantly lying like this when everyone knows you're lying?


"And a president coulld [sic] have declassified it all."-Diarrheabreath

But he didn't. What's your point, scumbag? Woulda, coulda, shoulda... as things stood then, it's a crime.
All of the classified documents Trump refused to return were still classified when he was indiscriminately showing them around, bragging to guests about what he was showing them.


"Biden, as Senator and VP, had no such power. And records were found in a closet at the Penn Biden Center, in a rotting cardboard box in a non-secure garage next to cleaning supplies and brooms."-Dishonestfuckface

Yes, and he promptly returned them when asked. He didn't repeatedly lie about having them and he didn't defy subpoenas to hold on to them, did he. Meanwhile, Trump removed documents from classified folders and they vanished, probably being given away to Chinese agents that he entertained at Mar-a-Lago. But we'll never know the truth about where they went. And johnforbes isn't a bit concerned about the classified documents that disappeared.
#138277
Those documents were in a locked cage at Mar a Lago.

Apparently, the armed agents who raided the place for political publicity did root through Melania's bedroom too.

Archives personnel visited that cage in the basement in June, asked for a bigger padlock to be put on, and one was put on, and then without further contact raided the place a few months later.

Why? Well, they had dehumanized Trump to the point that they felt a raid would help them prevail in the 2024 election, but the American people saw through it all.

Clowntoker's hypocrisy is as transparent as a filmy nightgown, although Clown himself prefers the sissy salons of fetid Frisco to anything normal.
#138280
"Those documents were in a locked cage at Mar a Lago."-johnfibs

Immediately after I educated dimwit johnforbes on where classified documents were actually found at Mar-a-Lago, he lied again that they were all found in a locked cage in the basement. Why would he lie like that when it just makes him look like a dishonest partisan scumbag?

"Former President Donald J. Trump stored classified documents not only in a storage room, but also in a shower, an office, a bedroom and a ballroom, according to the indictment unsealed on Friday."

" The indictment notes that in the time between Mr. Trump’s departure from the White House and the recovery of the documents in August 2022, Mar-a-Lago held more than 150 social events, attended by “tens of thousands of guests.”

In April 2021, Mr. Trump’s employees moved dozens of boxes from an area at Mar-a-Lago referred to in the indictment as the business center to a bathroom in what is known as the Lake Room." [which is on the second floor, not the basement. Only about 85 of the over 300 boxes were stored in the locked basement storage room that johnforbes keep lying about.]

"In November 2021, Mr. Trump ordered that some boxes be brought from the storage room up to his residence for him to review. Some of these were kept in Pine Hall, an entry room to the Trump family suite.

When F.B.I. officials searched Mar-a-Lago in August 2022, they found 27 classified documents in Mr. Trump’s office, including six with the highest level of classification." [Also not a locked cage in the basement]

"Mr. Trump also took boxes of documents to his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., according to the indictment. It was there that Mr. Trump was recorded saying he knew he had a classified document."-NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... -lago.html

Now perhaps johnfibs will finally stop lying about where Trump stored the classified documents....but probably not. It's nearly impossible to get a dishonest partisan scumbag to tell the truth.

johnforbes' hypocrisy is as transparent as a sleazy Fredrick's of Hollywood negligee, although johnny himself prefers the salons where he performs his drag act in a Gold Lame dress and sporting a rhinestone choker to anything straight people might see as normal. I wonder what Trump would say if he ever learned johnforbes claims Trump sleeps in a locked cage.
#138286
Citing The New York Times of anything political, well that's comical.

Yes, the Times once aspired to be the "first draft of history," but that was just leftist egotism.

The Times, like the Washington Post, hated Trump with a passion far beyond reason.

And Nixon himself told us that, if you have political hate, the first victim is yourself...
#138288
Citing johnforbes of anything political, well that's comical.

johnforbes just illustrated that he can't differentiate between unsupported partisan propaganda and documented facts.

Additionally, notice that johnforbes is such a partisan weasel that he can never post his sources for any of the made up stupid shit he regurgitates regularly on this forum.

But let's give him a chance, shall we? johnforbes is invited to refute the facts about Trumps growing personal slush fund proffered by the New York Times, and he will do so with attributed citations. If he is unable to do so, it will be tantamount to an admission that he's nothing more the partisan douche bag he appears to be.
#138303
Yes, dummy, Mar-a-Lago is a golf club welcoming thousands of guests, which make it that much worse that it was used to carelessly store classified documents within reach of those guests. Only a few of them were stored behind locked doors. And some of them disappeared from their folders.

Trump had lied about having the classified documents for over a year, and he refused to return them when asked multiple times. It doesn't matter that the NRA isn't a criminal statute. Mishandling classified documents and failing to respond to subpoenas ARE criminal statutes. Search warrants are always justified to recover classified documents that have been stolen, which Trump did the moment he first refused to return them.

And of course they DID need 40 armed agents because the FBI was properly serving a warrant, and FBI agents serving warrants are always armed, and they were following standard FBI procedures for serving a search warrant to collect hundreds of boxes of documents. 40 agents is not a lot to haul out hundreds of boxes of paper.

Additionally, Trump had already demonstrated multiple times his unwillingness to cooperate with the FBI, as well as his willingness to risk the security of the U.S. by his mishandling of the classified documents. It would have been foolish to go in unarmed even if it weren't standard procedure, which it was. All search warrants are served and executed by armed officers or agents.

Surely Dishonestjohn knows enough about executing search warrants to comprehend these prudent and common sense procedures and precautions?

Meanwhile, johnforbes (after claiming he could do so) has still failed to produce a single citation that either refutes a thing I said or supports his asinine partisan assertions.
#138307
You do not need armed agents to visit a golf club, particularly one owned by a former president with his own security detail.

What would be needed would be a phone to call that detail and arrange a visit.

The last one was in June, quite peaceful, and a new larger padlock was installed at the request of the Archive folks.

Then came the political -- purely political -- raid with 40 armed agents.

Meanwhile, Mayorkas let in 8 to 10 milion new illegal aliens since 2021 at the "border" (where the armed agents would have helped deter crime).
#138310
Of course ignorant johnforbes hasn't got a clue about what those serving search warrants "need" in a given situation.

If johnforbes had a shred of legal training (or even merely had a brain in his head) he would understand that ALL search warrants are served by armed officers or agents. Always.

When some scumbag has stolen over 300 boxes of documents, many classified, you damn well DO need a bunch of sworn law enforcement officers to simply carry them out of the building, let alone to adequately search a 126 room, 62,500 square foot building.

When will Dishonestjohn understand that securing America's classified documents from bedrooms, ballrooms, and bathrooms available to thousands of unvetted guests is obviously not a "purely political" raid. The criminal perpetrator had lied repeatedly and refused to either properly secure the classified documents or to hand over the classified documents to proper authorities when requested in a civil manner for over a year. Clearly he had no intention of ever doing so peacefully. He had had multiple opportunities to do so and still refused.
#138315
Sheer nonsense from Clowntoker.

As sheer as the lacy lingerie and tempting thongs in mellifluous Melania's bedroom.

Biden as Senator and VP had no power to declassify, yet he stored multiple documents in places as wacky as a closet at the Penn Biden Center (where he taught not one single class) and a rotting cardboard box next to his green vintage Vette.

Biden was not only not raided, but he was not even charged because Hur felt his age and lack of memory would mean he couldn't be prosecuted. In other words, he was non compos mentis.
#138319
Once again, johnforbes couldn't refute a thing I said.

Biden wasn't raided because he simply returned the 90 documents immediately when asked to do so.

Trump belligerently refused for over a year to return over 13,000 documents (including over 300 classified documents) when asked to do so.

See the difference, dimwit? You can't raid someone after they've already promptly returned the stuff you want to get back.

And by the time you must resort to a search warrant, you damn well DO send armed agents to recover classified documents.

Why is Dishonestjohn still insisting that simply applying standard procedures for serving warrants is somehow being "political"?
#138337
Clowntoker's own estate, named "Marred a Lago," sits on an insect-ridden pool of stagnant water next to the village dump in the scenic downtown Gator Junction, Mississippi.

That aside, Clown's lingerie remarks were sheer nonsense.

Even though Melania is lasered, Stacey goes every few weeks to "Billy Bob's Law Service" to be weedwhacked as smooth as a politician's excuse.
#138344
I also never made any claims of transparency, dimwit. Why must you always make up stupid shit? I mean besides the fact that without lies you have nothing to say at all.

I think you are confusing me with your own 'trans' fantasies about being a woman when you are doing your drag show in Gold Lamé and that rhinestone choker.
#138349
johnforbes didn't need to take a detour to get to his sad realm of deranged deviancy. He's always been right at home in the hypocrisy and lies of D.C. next door.

This is why he is so blasé about Trump collecting a half billion dollar slush fund to start out his corrupt administration.

johnforbes even supports the Trump Cancel Culture that is literally cancelling global warming and LGBTQ+ people from the American record and discussion.

And now Trump has cancelled the mainstream media from the Pentagon so that the only breaking news we will get now is the partisan crap from The New York Post, OneAmerica'News' and Breitbart. They will be the only ones getting the news immediately in the Pentagon. And all three of them simply spin it and outright lie.

But johnforbes isn't bothered by that in the least. He hates to be confused by the facts. They get in the way of him freely making up stupid shit.
#138353
Once again, johnforbes uses a lot of words just to say that he supports Trump's Cancel Culture concerning global warming and LGBTQ+ people. He thinks if you don't talk about something it will make it go away.

Why doesn't he ever have the balls to just come out and say all the ignorant things he believes? (Probably doesn't want his mom or his kids to know what a total asshole he really is?)

I think deep down johnny knows he's secretly embarrassed by his lack of intellect and his disgust for anyone who isn't a straight white male. (I mean a straight white male who doesn't wear a 'towel' on his head, of course.)
#138359
Mr Forbes is no Dickens or Dumas, paid by the word.

Mr Forbes has a singular economy of language.

He never uses 10 words when 1 will do, particularly when describing Clowntoker's tawdry tenure in the tempestuous tearoooms, sordid salons, and deviant dens of of socialist SanFran...
#138364
And once again johnforbes used three sentences to say what could have been said in one; to admit that he doesn't have the balls to just come out and say all the ignorant things he believes about Trump's Cancel Culture.

Deep down johnny is secretly embarrassed by his lack of intellect and his disgust for anyone who isn't a straight white male.

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