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By Clownkicker
#132161
Only vile Trump supporters like sillydummy are gleeful about the accidental deaths of working people.

But at least he's honest enough to admit that Trump is a curse upon this country.

Kudos for that, dimwit.
By elklindo69
#132167
Five people died as a result of the Jan 6 insurrection.

So 5 > 1

and now we have to waste days explaining the term "fully vaccinated" to people who can't understand that 81 million is larger than 74 million.

Go figure..............
By Clownkicker
#132169
sillydummy is a Republican because he believes a guy who orders the death of thousands is morally superior to a guy who pulled the trigger on a movie prop gun that he had no personal responsibility for.

silly's not joking. He honestly thinks Baldwin is morally worse than someone like G.W.Bush because Bush didn't personally pull a trigger to kill thousands of innocents. Bush did it with orders to subordinates, the way he believes moral killing SHOULD be done.

But that's the thing about Republican values. They make endless excuses for all sorts of murderous crimes by Republican jackasses while righteously condemning the starving shoplifter or the homeless guy forced to sleep on the street.

That they cannot forgive. That's what "compassionate conservatism" is really all about.
By sillydaddy
#132172
Clown, following your logic....then you must also believe that Biden has blood on his hands of the 13 military personnel who were killed in Afghanistan...
And who knows what will happen to the hundreds of Americans he left behind and now there are 16
more Americans in Haiti ... :O
By Clownkicker
#132173
Of course he has blood on his hands, dimwit. But at least he admitted to it.(Unlike Trump and Republicans)

What is wrong with you? Someone who sends orders to kill someone is far more responsible than an actor wielding a movie prop gun, you dishonest turd.

But those left behind are as much on Trump as on Biden. Trump made a deal with the Taliban months before but made no effort to get Americans out. He also made no effort to get weapons out. He only got too many soldiers out, (which forced Biden to send thousands more back in) then Trump released 5000 Taliban fighters to attack the government, and Trump left everyone else to fend for themselves. At least Biden got tens of thousands of Americans and Afghanis out that Trump had left behind. Trump had years to expedite the visas of Afghani allies, but he didn't do a thing about them. He only tied Biden's hands with a terrible agreement with the Taliban.

But what does Haiti have to do with anything, you imbecile? Biden didn't send them there, now did he. That bullshit is on Christians like you.
By johnforbes
#132174
Joe's case to become president was his 48 years in The Swamp and, as he claimed, he "knew more."

But Blinken, Sullivan, Austin, and Milley were all involved in allowing 83 billion in armament to be left in the hands of the Taliban, ISIS, and AQ.

Innocent people will die because of that enormous display of incompetence and stupidity.
By sillydaddy
#132183
Donald Trump, Jr is selling t-shirts that say:

"Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people."
OR
"I stand behind Alec Baldwin..."
because I'll be damn if I'm going to stand in front of him.." :laugh: :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#132184
^^^^^^^See? 'Compassionate' conservatives simply joke about tragic accidents. sillydummy isn't capable of understanding that Baldwin is also a victim here.

'Compassionate' conservatives actually find accidental gunshot deaths funny. Just hilarious... We have it from silly's own mouth.

Imagine the parties sillydummy and Don Jr. throw every time another four-year-old shoots and kills his brother because everyone knows his parents have a right to have firearms around the house. Imagine how sillydummy and Don Jr. treat the grieving families and friends; with back slaps, laughter, and truly grotesque merchandising.

Will johnforbes weigh in with disgust over his brethren and fellow Trump supporters laughing like buffoons over more accidental deaths from gunshots? Of course he won't. He actually condones sillydummy's and Trump's inhuman behavior.

Rather than criticism of Trump and silly, I predict johnforbes will, like sillydummy, only crack another humorless joke about this. johnforbes is no different from silly and Don Jr.. 'Compassionate conservatives' are all the same---truly vile human beings.
By sillydaddy
#132185
Clown ....Someone once said, "What goes around...comes around"
I don't recall you being upset when Baldwin mock President Trump on SNL week after week..
Suddenly the verbally abusive liberals are victims of hate...how horrible..!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#132186
No one said Baldwin was the "victim of hate." Why is it conservatives can only make up stupid shit all the time?

I couldn't care less if someone makes fun of Baldwin. He's an idiot. Who cares?
Everyone has the right to make fun of public figures.

But this is like if someone assassinated Trump and then some Democrat came out with T-shirts laughing about how funny it is. It isn't funny, asshole, even if you hate everything about the guy. And if it were about Trump, you would be here telling us how the guys making money off Trump's death were despicable human beings, and you would be right. But if it's someone else who is the victim of a gun, you couldn't care less. You laugh your fool head off over it.

YOU and Don Jr. are making fun of victims of guns (which Baldwin also is in this case. He has to live with having killed someone because some gun schmuck didn't properly handle the gun.) as if the victim is somehow funny, and then you make money off it and parade around with joke T-shirts about it. That's how vile you and Don Jr. are.
By johnforbes
#132189
Based on the available evidence, all those who died on Jan 6 were Trump supporters.

Lt Byrd, of course, shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt and was charged with nothing.

The guy who supposedly was hit over the head with a fire extinguisher actually was not, and died later of natural causes.
By Clownkicker
#132196
^^^^^^^^ "Will johnforbes weigh in with disgust over his brethren and fellow Trump supporters laughing like buffoons over more accidental deaths from gunshots?"-me

And now we know the answer to that question is "No."

What a partisan pussy.
By johnforbes
#132199
Don Jr is into hunting anf fishing, and if he doesn't handle guns safely I will not give him a pass on that either.

EVERY person who picks up a gun must safety-check it EVERY time.

Media outlets were, as usual, dishonest and tried to pretend it was a prop gun.

Apparently, it was an antique 45 and they were using it earlier to plink cans.

Nothing wrong with that, although a 22 might be better for that, but Baldwin's sloppy handling caused that woman's death.
By johnforbes
#132229
Something like involuntary manslaughter, but no idea how things are written out there.

One dangerous place to be is anywhere near a person as obese as Clowntoker, but another is near Baldwin.
By Clownkicker
#132250
"Media outlets were, as usual, dishonest and tried to pretend it was a prop gun."-johnfuckingidiotforbes

johnny, it WAS a prop gun, dimwit.

"Prop gun" does not mean a fake gun, you moron. A movie prop (short for "movie property") is any object used on a movie set. The gun was used on a movie set, dummy, so it was a "prop gun".

Criminy you're ignorant.
By Clownkicker
#132262
"Nope, apparently it was an antique 45."-johnflubs

Yes, an antique 45 on a movie set. You admit that.

Unfortunately, admitting it was a prop gun is not evidence that it was not a prop gun, you imbecile.

Once again ignorant johnforbes misfires.
By johnforbes
#132264
A prop gun couldn't fire and kill a person.

This was an antique 45, and that was deadly long ago and still today.

For example, I have a .45-70 patterned after the 1895 model.

Some movie folks apparently like real weapsons for authenticity, but when used every person who picks up a weapon must safety-check it EVERY time.
By Clownkicker
#132275
"A prop gun couldn't fire and kill a person."-johnfibs

The proof that you are wrong about that is the fact that the prop gun Baldwin used on set DID fire and kill someone, dimwit.

QED

Stop parading your staggering ignorance, johnny.
By johnforbes
#132276
Don't misunderstand.

The mere fact that Baldwin is angry and leftist doesn't persuade me he did this on purpose.

It probably will come down to whether he had a "depraved indifference" to her life, as a legal matter.

It was not a prop gun (which cannot fire), but an antique Long Colt (cap and ball conversion). He supposedly pulled the hammer back and aimed it at that gal.

Unfortunately, this antique was a 45 and she sustained the obvious through-and-through wound.

If I were a juror, would I say he displayed a depraved indifference to the risk? Probably not, but it does become another of those tragic sort of involuntary manslaughter type cases.
By sillydaddy
#132277
I find it hard to believe there is no video of the incident..
I was on the set of the movie "All the Pretty Horses" and recall that all the rehearsals were taped ...
The director then used the videos to correct camera angles, lighting, etc.
Even if the director didn't order the rehearsal to be videotaped....someone has it on their iPhone..
I can almost guarantee it...there's a vid of it out there..! :O
By Clownkicker
#132278
"It was not a prop gun (which cannot fire)..."-johnfibs

johnny, your ignorance of what constitutes a "movie prop" does not make what you're saying true. There is no requirement that a movie prop gun be disabled. None. You simply made it up, as you make up all the ignorant bullshit you post here.

And, unsurprisingly, you still haven't been able to make a fool of me by posting any facts on that other thread either, and you never will, despite all your dimwitted claims.

You're an impotent buffoon.
By johnforbes
#132291
No, I do not intend to make a fool of Clown on this thread.

Clown's own remarks have accomplished that little chore.

In a general sense, I bear Clown no ill will at all on this fine forum with its respectful exchange of ideas.

Instead, I have merely noted the deeply delusional and decidedly deranged tone of Clown's ideation.
By Clownkicker
#132292
^^^^^^ See? johnny has a problem with my "tone" but he can never actually refute a thing I post.

You're an impotent partisan hack.


"No, I do not intend to make a fool of Clown on this thread."-johnflubs

Of course you don't intend to make a fool of me on THIS thread, dimwit, because you know you can't. But you said you intended to make a fool of me on ANOTHER THREAD, dummy. And you still haven't been able to do it, have you.

You're an intellectual pussy as well.
By johnforbes
#132298
No, Clowntoker's surly tone has no effect on me.

Like all faithful leftists, Clown is perpetually outraged at some injustice of some sort in this vale of tears.

But, as JFK (or more accurately his speechwriter, often Ted Sorensen) said, "Life is unfair."

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