[johnforbes]

The one which permits suspension of the Bill of Rights if there is a pandemic?

[Clownkicker]

Ask Trump. He's the one claiming his power is "total" and absolute.

If you don't believe him, then for gawds sake say something to his supporters, johnny.

[johnforbes]

I'm relying on the superb legal training of Elkin and Clown to answer this vexing question.

[johnforbes]

So where is this power in the Constitution?

[Clownkicker]

johnny, where is the power to force a military draft in the Constitution?

You support the draft, so show us the justification in the Constitution that makes literally depriving someone of their life and liberty acceptable.

[johnforbes]

Let's not try to dance around the question:

America is now facing a situation in which a flu outbreak has caused a total suspension of the Bill of Rights.

I, and others, have expressed interest in learning the constitutional basis.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you got marching orders from your partisan handlers and nothing more.

You are fine with ignoring the Bill of Rights when it suits you and you feign outrage when it doesn't suit your partisan interests, just like ALL Republicans.

Anyone who would take your ridiculous posturing 'concern' seriously is a fool. You have about as much integrity as a typical Tea Party member, which is NONE.


Why don't you go ask your Constitutional Law professor from your pretend alma mater?

[johnforbes]

They can't locate any such provision.

Interestingly, I had two 3 credit courses in Con Law in undergrad. Teacher was a lawyer working on his PhD at Johns Hopkins.

Also, had two 3 credit pre-law courses from him, and we even read the classic lectures for new law students captured in The Bramble Bush.

Made first year law school a piece of cake.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, stop dancing around the question. Maybe you can show us the emergency provision of the US Constitution that gives Trump "total authority"?

"When President Trump was asked during Monday’s news briefing what authority he has to reopen the country, he didn’t hesitate to answer. “I have the ultimate authority,” the president responded, cutting off the reporter who was speaking.
“When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.”
"The local leaders, Trump said, “can’t do anything without the approval of the president of the United States.”"--- So WHO SAYS, johnny? I mean, besides Trump? You couldn't care less.


johnny, you're here nitpicking over what Democrats and governors can do, but you completely overlook the broader and more sweeping question of what in the Constitution gives Trump the "total authority" he claims? You don't even care about the big Constitutional questions that Trump places before you every day. You've never questioned his claims even once. So why feign caring on this thread?

Maybe you should ask Trump this question if you won't ask your Constitutional Law professor.

[johnforbes]

But what greater authority could there be than the vast forebrain of Clown, or his research assistant Elkin?

Add those two IQs together and it would be a big number, maybe even breaking into triple digits?

[Clownkicker]

Given johnforbes' IQ, the only question one can ask is "Are you going to vote for Trump again?"

[johnforbes]

I remain confident that Elkin, boosted by his research staff of demented leftists, will discover the provisions.

[elklindo69]

I wonder what provision Trump was referring to when he claimed that he had "Absolute Power?"

[johnforbes]

The president, in our federal system, does have considerable power.

More to the power, where have governors obtained the power to shut down one business, but leave another open?

Answer: They just made it up.

[Clownkicker]

The BASTARDS! I asked the same thing when they said they had the power to draft me while leaving someone else alone.

So why doesn't Trump put a stop to this with his total authority, johnny? Is he incompetent or just impotent?

[johnforbes]

According to the press, we must "Follow the science."

Which leads to Fauci and Birx, two Democrats who have destroyed the economy.

[Clownkicker]

An answer worthy of Trump, johnny.

You not only failed to address my question, but also managed to blame someone else for Trump's decisions.

Why is he even in office? He can't stand up to anyone. Not Democrats, not Kim, not Putin, not Xi... the only people he stands up to are the "best people" he hired that disagree with him. Well, except for Fauci and Birx, it seems, right?

Why will you vote for such a pussy again, johnny?

[johnforbes]

My opening post was trenchant, and it would appear Clown is unable to answer it.

[Clownkicker]

I think you meant your opening post was "trench foot" and appeared pretty gross.


I see johnforbes is still dancing around the question, which is tantamount to admitting his legal education was wasted.

His Constitutional Law professor also apparently told him to stop being so naive and then said "Go suck an egg," so now he's asking me for some reason.

Keep on dancing around the question, johnny.

[johnforbes]

I am merely a humble fellow seeking truth on the Interwebs.

Surely some leftist here, Clown or Elkin, can point out to me the part of the Constitution which grants this power?

[Clownkicker]

It is unforgivable that johnforbes got credit for his Constitutional Law course without having ever read the Constitution.

When he does finally get around to it, perhaps he will be able to return to this illustrious forum and answer his own idiotic question.

[johnforbes]

I'm not worried.

With two legal scholars like Clown and Elkin hot on the trail, they will soon locate that elusive provision and tell us.

[Clownkicker]

I located it long ago, johnny, and without a law degree either.

But I'm not about to do your homework for you, you lazy partisan weasel.

There is no way you could have gotten through law school without learning how to do legal research.

If you say you can't research it yourself, that only proves you lied about attending law school.

[johnforbes]

I am relying on the fine scholarly skills of Clown and Elkin.

Added together, they spent 26 years in high school, after factoring in all the times they flunked and repeated.

Given their intellectual heft, surely they will soon answer the opening query?

[Clownkicker]

No, I just told you I'm not going to do your homework for you, johnny.

What part of your own stock reply don't you understand?

[johnforbes]

Surely it doesn't suffice for Clown and Elkin, these towering intellects of this fine forum, these esteemed comrades, to sit idly by while this question lingers in the April twilight?

I am relying on the fine scholarly skills of Clown and Elkin.

Added together, they spent 26 years in high school, after factoring in all the times they flunked and repeated.

Given their intellectual heft, surely they will soon answer the opening query?

[RealJustme]

The silent majority is rising up and questioning liberal Governors on their powers to deprive them of their Constitutional rights...and it's working the Governors are caving. A wake up call for libtards, there aren't as many sheeple as they thought.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, the Kaiser Family Foundation Health Poll says 80% of Americans approve of the shutdown steps being taken to fight the pandemic. That includes a lot of Trump supporters.

"A majority of Americans — 8 in 10 — say strict shelter-in-place guidelines are worth it, to keep people safe from COVID-19 and control the spread of the virus, according to a new Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll. The same percentage, of around 80% of Americans, also say they can follow the restrictions for at least one more month."
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... poll-finds

Your 20% is not a "silent majority" you imbecile. Do the math, fer cripes sake.

Oh, right, your math is about as good as you English. They are neither silent (they grunt, pump their fists and chant) nor a majority. You don't even understand what "majority" means.

Never mind, dimwit.

[johnforbes]

YouTube took down the video of the two doctors who pointed out the absurdity of California's lockdown.

If people believe sheltering in place is a good idea, it is likely because the leftist media outlets preach that, but never mention the truth that fresh air and sunshine are perfect cures for pandemic influenza.

As proof, deBlasio went for a walk in a Brooklyn park just yesterday and was filmed.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes is too dimwitted to understand that what is right for one part of this huge country may not yet be right for another part at a different stage of infection.

Sadly, if a solution to a problem isn't black-and-white, yes-or-no, one-size-fits-all, the conservative mind has no way to understand or cope with it.

[johnforbes]

I actually agree that, in a large and complex country, what may be correct for a county in New Mexico may not be proper for a county in New Jersey.

However, I still can't seem to locate the executive power to shut down a beach, or a park, or one kind of business versus another.

Nor can I find where Dr Fauci or Dr Birx get the authority to declare the country closed.

[Clownkicker]

"However, I still can't seem to locate the executive power to shut down a beach, or a park, or one kind of business versus another."-johnflubs

So ask Trump about it, johnny. Why are you letting him simply do whatever he wants without any authorization from the Constitution? Your partisan hypocrisy is destroying the country you pretend to love so much.

"Nor can I find where Dr Fauci or Dr Birx get the authority to declare the country closed."-johnflubs

Then it should comfort you to know they don't actually have that power, johnny. Trump is the one making all the decisions.
And we know you trust his judgment explicitly.

[johnforbes]

Implicitly...

[Clownkicker]

explicitly-- in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.

It's what you do here every day, johnny. You let us know clearly in words that you support what he does. You twist yourself into a pretzel to support him and rationalize whatever stupid thing he says or does. It isn't tacit support.

Either your explicit support for EVERYTHING he says and does reflects explicit trust in his judgment, or else you're just an incredibly cynical, partisan, and vile human being. take your pick.

[johnforbes]

No big deal, lots of people make that mistake.

Back to the central question of this thread:

What is the answer?

[elklindo69]

So if you are not willing to figure anything out for yourself why don't you ask Jared Kusher?

A credentialist like yourself could appreciate the fact Trump put his under-qualified idiot son in law in charge of allocating scarce medical resources.

So what could be more than on brand for Trump to have Kushner go out and spin his disastrous coronavirus response as a victory.

[johnforbes]

Where doctors differ, lawyers decide.

That is the old axiom.

[elklindo69]

The congress is going to investigate Trump's response to COVID-19.

How much do you wanna bet that Trump ain't going to let Dr. Fauci testify?

[johnforbes]

Fauci emailed his admiration and "love" for Hillary.

By July, Fauci will be a paid consultant on CNN attacking Trump every night.