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By johnforbes
#120785
None of them met with Trump in the past year.

None of them listened in on the July 25 call in question.

None of them have any firsthand info.

None of them can name an impeachable offense.
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By RealJustme
#120786
All of them are Beltway bureaucrats upset that a President would dare attempt to dictate policy and rock their boats. Doesn't Trump realize the people don't know what's good for them so they need elites like them to think for the people.
By sillydaddy
#120787
The only one the Demos claim to have first hand knowledge, Holmes...
says he overheard the President speaking loudly on the phone..
but that means he only heard pieces of one side of a call he had no business listening to...
and cannot make a true assessment of the President's call :O
By sillydaddy
#120799
Fuck Schiff, Pelosi and the rest of the Demos assholes..
They have been telling us the Russians are our enemies
and here they are kissing Russian ass because they want to bring down a US President...!
they call Ukraine our ally...what a laugh...!
The President was right in trying to get them to investigate Biden..
But of course the Ukrainians were going to balk...
they don't want us to know they are paying Biden with our own money..! :O :O
By Clownkicker
#120800
"None of them met with Trump in the past year."-johnflubs

You don't need to meet with someone to get instructions from them, dimwit. This is the 21st century fer cripes sake.
Are you going to pretend that they didn't get any instructions from the President about U.S. policy to Ukraine in a year? What the fuck was Trump doing all this time? Simply allowing people he considered "bad news" run our foreign policy all that time? That's dereliction of duty at least.

"None of them listened in on the July 25 call in question."-johnflubs

They weren't there to testify about the phone call, dimwit. They were testifying about Trump being manipulated by the Ukrainians to dump an Ambassador that was keeping them in line and enforcing our Ukraine policies.

"None of them have any firsthand info."-johnfibs

Of course they do. They witnessed first hand the dire situation in Ukraine that Trump ignored for personal gain. They told you how critical the aid was to U.S. interests, but Trump delayed it anyway for personal political advantage. He sold out the U.S. for his reelection plans.
Besides that, they provided important hearsay evidence in a Federal proceeding that allows hearsay evidence when the first hand witnesses refuse to testify.

"None of them can name an impeachable offense."-johnfibs

But they didn't say that, did they. They only said that they didn't know firsthand of any crimes Trump committed. They had already named impeachable offenses they knew about from other witnesses. But they weren't there to testify about direct knowledge of Trump's crimes. They were there to provide the context for the phone call and why it was against U.S. national interest. Trump already admitted to campaign violations and extortion in his phone call transcript.
By johnforbes
#120803
None of these people actually witnessed a thing.

The ambassador lady was fired because she supported the other candidate for president of Ukraine, and its new prez wanted her gone.

Even though Schiff is a proven liar, this whole inquiry has been a total charade and Schiff himself needs to be called as a witness because he lied about knowing who the fake whistleblower even is.

Eric Ciaramella, 33, registered Democrat, partisan activist, worked for Brennan and Biden.
By Clownkicker
#120806
Even though Trump is a proven liar, this whole inquiry has been enlightening and Trump himself needs to be called as a witness because he lied about everything he has said about Ukraine so far and the identity of the whistleblower is irrelevant. Trump DID make the phone call the whistleblower told Congress about, so any party affiliation isn't relevant to Trump's crimes.

Remember how Trump immediately told reporters he didn't "know those gentlemen" Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, and then we learned he had met with them ten times? This sort of lie doesn't bother Republicans in the least.
By Clownkicker
#120815
"If the Demos want to remove a duly elected US President.... Everyone is relevant…!"-sillydummy

Apparently sillydummy will be testifying before the House Committees. I wonder what his relevance is?

johnforbes is shaking in his slippers and fuzzy bathrobe as well. And this is despite the fact that he and his doctors know perfectly well that he's irrelevant.
By johnforbes
#120831
This is a key point:

None of them met with Trump in the past year.

None of them listened in on the July 25 call in question.

None of them had ANY firsthand info.

None of them can name an impeachable offense.
By sillydaddy
#120836
"... I wonder what his relevance is?
I have absolutely no first hand information...
and I have never met the President..!

You're right Clown,
I'm going to be subpoenaed any day now...! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#120837
"I have absolutely no first hand information...
and I have never met the President..!
You're right Clown,
I'm going to be subpoenaed any day now...! "-sillydummy

Yet you think it makes sense to subpoena the whistleblower who has no first hand information and has never met the President.

Why do you think it's reasonable to force him before Congress and not you, sillydummy? How do you explain such hypocrisy?
By johnforbes
#120838
The so-called whistleblower started this whole thing, so it is crucial for the Senate to see him and have him cross-examined.

Dems need to hide him because he is Eric Ciaramella, age 33, partisan Democrat, who worked for Brennan and Biden, and who hates Trump and was seeking to dig up Ukraine dirt on him.

This is a little partisan soy boy, not some conscience-driven person who is pure of heart, and the public needs to know that and scrutinize him and assess his credibility and motivation.

This is basic fairness in our Anglo-Saxon system.
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