Political discussions about everything
By BilboBagend
By justdoit
#9392
bilbobagend
And your point??
Not here to argue the fact of inequality, but ask for your opinion as to the fix....
Whats it gonna take to give those responsible the needed kick to force the required change that inproves the life for all.
By BilboBagend
#9428
No entitlements and governmental preferences for the wealthy, high income, and businesses.

Basic equitable social support for all U.S. citizens. Give benefits to one and all. Everyone gets basic medical and dental coverage. Everyone gets the same social security. Everyone gets to contribute to the same tax deferred (revenue deferred) retirement accounts with the same maximums. This not only supports our American citizens, it also creates a better environment for entrepreneurship in this country. No more business concerns and expenses for benefits. No more social benefits provided by businesses.

Change the bankruptcy codes. All employee compensation should be regarded as delayed income, second in line for payout after taxes. All executive compensation should be last to be paid out in bankruptcy.

Simple equitable tax code with no spending in the tax code. None. Say a 4% income tax on all U.S. revenues of all individuals, all businesses, all corporations, all imports, all exports. No credits/ No deductions. No preferences. If government wants to spend money let them spend in in an open straight forward and public way in a spending bill.

Any restrictions/preferences in the free market, like patent protection, crop subsidies, oil depletion allowances should expire on a date certain and should carry an extra return to the American people. If you want to form a monopoly, an oligopoly, you should only be able to do so with temporary government sanction and a clear return to the American people. Laissez Fair is not free market capitalism any more than communism is free market capitalism. Every violation of free market capitalism creates a suboptimal economy and an excess return of capital to a privileged wealth class create by that preference. Adam Smith was right.

Simple fair campaign finance laws. Only humans may contribute to campaigns, and only those humans eligible to vote in the campaign. Local elections should be local. State elections should be state election. Federal district elections should be only in the district. National elections should be only national with no foreign money.

People who commit fraud, financial skimming, and violate free market capitalism regulations should go to jail for long periods of time and need to give back every penny of excess gain and a huge penalty. No more free ride for financial criminals, including government officials.

Separate financial businesses that have natural conflicts of interest.

Eliminate gambling (book making) in the financial markets. No more uncovered options and contracts in the financial world. They should be allowed honestly where they belong, in the gambling markets, openly and honestly presented to the public on an equal footing.

etc.
By BilboBagend
#9430
Bailouts.

Governments should be the financier of last resort and should follow standard "White Knight" standards. Take complete control of the company in need of a bailout. Restructure the company. Cancel all outstanding stock. Cancel all executive compensation and restructure executive compensation consistent with the executive failure. Prosecute all fraud and criminal activity. Restructure all outstanding debt by debt reduction and new stock issues. Retain majority control of the company. Shake up management. Structure to receive a minimum of a 35% annual return on capital. Stabilize the company and sell off the investment as quickly as possible subject to market and company stability. Or, just dismantle and sell off the parts for maximum gain. The company requesting the bailout can always refuse and take their chances. Sadly, executives usually act in their own interests rather than the interests of either the company or it's owners. It is what it is.
By BilboBagend
#9432
Equal access for all people to all the financial markets. No preferential access for high speed trading, financial companies, banks, traders, etc. Everyone accesses each financial, stock, commodity, option, treasury, insurance, etc market on a equal footing. Same access portals. Same applications. Same networks. etc. You know. Free market Capitalism.

Equal, free access to all information. You know, Free Market Capitalism.
By Leroy
#9433
At some point the "Equal Access" turns into hate and violence as people that don't have the resources to pay at some level are incited to hate and violence by people that will never have the resources and feel that someone owes them - like Dildumb does.
By Leroy
#9437
You're the one mixing salads with no dressing, like the typical idiot you are.

You ARE part of the problem, and you're too stupid to see it.
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By namngulfvet
#9446
Word salad mixed with hate and malevolence. The lair leroy signature post.

You know dildo I have yet to see where Leroy has lied. But I have known you for a long time and its very seldom you tell the truth. If ojackass says it you libs jump all over it like the sheep you are. I swear you fallow him over a cliff he told you to. Thats how stupid I see you libs...
By Big
#9451
" No entitlements and governmental preferences for the wealthy, high income, and businesses. "


How about limited entitlements for those that seem to think that having 12 kids out of wedlock with ten babby daddy's is a way of life?..........

How about limited entitlements for those that have been arested multiple times on drug charges?.........

Miss. "I am fucked in the head" Dildo, Just who do you think pays for all those entitlements for those I speak of above?..........

Go ahead you progressive/Leftards/Twits........

Take those at the top out of the loop!.......

Then try and figure out where your gonna get your next meal from.......

Don't come knocking on my door!.......

I'll just tell you to go fuck off as I go back to my table and enjoye a nice big "T" bone......
By BilboBagend
#9492
Ah, the delusions of our local malignant paranoids. I wonder if they will ever have any honest statement. I wonder if they will ever engage in a measured and well thought our response to real issues. I wonder if they will ever address anything beyond they sick delusions.
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By namngulfvet
#9509
the delusions of our local malignant paranoids. I wonder if they will ever have any honest statement.

Dilroyid you are the one without any credit on here. You dont have an oz of credit. all you can do is run your spin machine 24/7
By Demagogue
#9835
I see nothing has changed with the conservatives.

Same old non-responsiveness to very simple questions or statements

but they do respond with lies, hate, misdirection and general nothingness.

Yup, I have seriously not missed a thing in several months !

:lol:
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By namngulfvet
#9899
No entitlements and governmental preferences for the wealthy, high income, and businesses.

Basic equitable social support for all U.S. citizens.

You know what Dildo bagfull of crap Ojacakss and his cronies had two full years to rectify this situation. They could have changed the law and closed the loop holes making it even across the board. Instead Ojackass decided to continue his campaign mode, pay B ball, golf and send Moosechell on all expensive paid vacations... Ojackass is a waste of human breath just like you and themoose.
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By Shimmer
#10059
We should have a tax system that requires every worker to pay federal income taxes and not have refundable credits that pay people more then they payed in. Even if they pay 1 dollar then they will have contributed to the tax base. I have a lot more to say on the subject of economic equality, but this forum being moderated, nothing I have posted has shown up yet so why bother...
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