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By snakeoil
#90892
If you want to understand what all the ranting and raving over the health care bills is about, read "An American Sickness" by Elizabeth Rosenthal, a doctor and a journalist. It has almost nothing to do with providing health care to the citizens; it's about protecting the income stream of all who profit from health care.

From the book:

a. A drug was coming off of patent protection. The pill cost $6 a pill. The drug company added an enteric coating to the pill ( many aspirins are coated.) Since it is a new formula, a new patent was issued. The pill now costs $350 a pill.

b. Many of the ambulance companies are owned by Wall Street investors and must show a profit for the investors.

c. Hospitals are buying up the private practices around them as feeders for the hospital. These has the effect of decreasing competition in the area. My own GP sold his practice and is now an employee of the hospital though still providing the same services to his old patients.

d. When you pay your doctor bill there are many others with their hand out. The book explains physician extenders, Medicare coding consultants, centralized billing companies, consultants to set up your practice, consultants on how to word your Medicare bill to maximize income, consultants on how to reword procedures to create a new billable procedures, consultants on how to outsource hospital departments to maximize hospital profits, etc.

e. The success of a drug usually results in a price increase not a decrease.

An aside: Insulin was discovered in 1936 by a Canadian physician. He patented the drug and gave it to the University of Toronto. The University decided the drug was too important to humanity and released the drug to the public domain for free. Now, many peoiple cannot afford their insulin.
By sillydaddy
#90895
Insurance lobbyists making the rounds on Capitol Hill...
I bet McCaine has already been told no need to use his insurance or worry about a deductible..
unlke any other common vet who would be told his eye surgery is not service connected...
McCaine's medical bills will be paid in full for life.....just keep voting NO..! :lol:
By snakeoil
#90948
It speaks volumes that this post about such an important issue as health care gets lukewarm attention in the comments. Maybe it's because I mentioned the unfamiliar concept known as reading. It just might be that the Kock cartel has done such a great job brainwashing the unthinking. It might be that people don't care that 25 million will lose their health insurance (which will raise the cost of your heath care even if you do have insurance.) I can hear it now, "those slackers should buy insurance. Why should I have to pay for their insurance?" 17.5 % of the population of the USA lives below the poverty level and insurance is out of the question,so to buy insurance means that they will die of starvation. The unknown but very real percent of the population living just a bit above the poverty level will also find it impossible to afford health care. In the book referenced above it was stated that health care costs for the uninsured are billed at a higher rate than for the insured as the uninsured do not have an insurance company to mediate for them.

I have read that many of the health problems in the USA are the result of life-style. Maybe some of the money spent on advertising drugs could be spent on life-style education. Because of my family history (heart problems) I long ago became a vegetarian. I don't smoke and I have an alcoholic drink maybe 5 times a year. I feel that I am saving money by not paying a doctor to correct the wrong life-style choices I might make.

Mitch McConnell got polio as a child. His health care costs to defeat this disease was paid for by a charitable organization. There is no charitable organization large enough to pick up the tab for all of the people that would be uninsured by taking away their health care coverage. His stand seems to be, "I got mine. Go get yours."

There, I've given you enough to start bashing me as that is the only reason many of you are hear.
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By RealJustme
#90950
I have read that many of the health problems in the USA are the result of life-style. Maybe some of the money spent on advertising drugs could be spent on life-style education. Because of my family history (heart problems) I long ago became a vegetarian. I don't smoke and I have an alcoholic drink maybe 5 times a year.
Dude, the vast majority of health and mental problems are a direct result of life-style. If they don't know that inactivity, unhealthy eating, smoking, drugs, dangerous activities and excessive alcohol are risks to their health by now, they have a mental problem or just don't give a shit. No amount of tax money trying to educate them on those dangers is going change them, it's throwing money away. If it's a life-style related health issues, those people should be low priority for treatment.
By snakeoil
#90961
Clownkicker: A friend of mine who was a minister once gave a sermon, "If it was a crime to be a Christian, Would there be enough evidence against you to convict you in a court of law"? This is a bit deep for some of these Christians here but maybe one of them will dwell on this a bit.
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By RealJustme
#90963
Asking someone to pay for or earn their lunch is Anti-Christian? :shock: Everyone should contribute to society the best they can, if a healthy person wants food stamps they should be required to do something for the community, whether that be picking up garbage from the roads and parks to mowing the elderly lawns. Tell a libtard that they as an individual, "must" do something to receive something and they'll explode.
By Clownkicker
#90990
Well, the Republicans controlling the House and Senate and White House can't seem to fulfill their simple seven-year pledge to repeal Obamacare....again.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/32 ... e-medicaid

I guess they all got tired of winning so much and decided to take a break from their long string of victories.

Looks like a long couple of weeks coming up for the GOP. No wonder they're going to stay in Washington and work. They're all scared shitless to go home and face their voters.
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