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There is zero way to prove that distancing worked.

The contrary would seem true because of the extremely wide asymptomatic spread.

The lawsuit re HCQ summed up experience with its use -- 91 percent efficacy.

It has been used on 1 million people with no significant cardiac issues, although as with any drug you need to know the patient and use the proper dosing.

It's now clear to everyone the lock down was based upon liberal "panic porn" time for everyone to get their asses back to work and the shut downs to end.

Coronavirus was nothing more than a new virus. So called scientists and the media wanted it be so much more have inflated the numbers of those may have died of the new virus to avoid losing face for the dire predictions. Most of the so called coronavirus deaths were probably flu related, which is the real killer.

Actually we don't know that at all.

All of the random testing has shown very wide asymptomatic spread, which drives the covid mortality rate down to about that of an ordinary bad flu year.

Also, it is unknown what the real covid death toll is because death WITH it is classified as death BECAUSE of it.

There is nothing mathematical or scientific about the mortality rate or number of deaths "caused" by COVID-19.

Germany has scientifically proven that the real infection rate is approximately 10 times higher than is being reported making the mortality rate 10 time less than reported.

Trump needs to put an end to this scam and just announce States that continue to stay shut down can not count on any financial aid from the Federal government for their decision to destroy their economies. The States needs to put all their effort into protecting the people who might die from a flu and put everyone else back to work. It's just another new nasty flu folks.

Large detailed studies of HCQ remain undone.

The VA "review" was an absurd mess, and this latest "observational" one is not a scientific one either.

Unlike Elkin and the other leftists who want people to die rather than try anything Trump mentioned, I'd like to know what the science is.

As to mortality rates, we have no idea what the covid rate is, although suggestions are about the same as a bad regular flu season.

We do know 33 million are unemployed, and that is a NEW public health crisis.

Big businesses and the government are the only ones who will profit from this COVID-19 scam. This is destroying small businesses, many which will never return, while insuring big businesses' monopoly. You government tyrants basking in their new power and authority to order citizens to give up rights for the good of the whole (socialism). They have established they can control the masses through fear, thus the constant "panic porn". You are witnessing Governors and Mayors letting real criminals out of prison for their safety while threatening to lock up law abiding citizens if they disobey their commands.

The new world order is hard at work and the have big businesses and the media on their side.

The studies in NY and CA show that the actual infection rate may be 50 to 85 times than previously thought.

If that is confirmed by wider random testing, then everything we thought we knew about covid-19 will have to be reassessed.

Already, we know the mortality rate is about that of a regular bad flu year, and that is even with every other co-morbidity being ignored and almost every death being ascribed to the virus.

"If that is confirmed by wider random testing, then everything we thought we knew about covid-19 will have to be reassessed."-johnflubs

Thank you for admitting that Trump has so far failed to insure widespread testing at adequate levels across the U.S..

Until we have that information, we must act according to standard pandemic response protocol. Stop politicizing the nonpartisan science.

And when we finally do get adequate testing, it could just as easily show that the epidemiologists were right in their response to the virus. You don't know, yet you keep posting as though you do know. You continue to ignore the current science in favor of mere partisan politics.

And I predict you will return to continue to do just that very soon. You just can't fix stupid.

The US has tested more than any other place.

You don't need to test everybody, but to just do more of the randomized testing done in CA, NY, NJ, and elsewhere, which suggested far, far wider asymptomatic spread (perhaps 85 times more).

Everybody was slow on covid.

Fauci said Feb 17 the risk was "minuscule."

On Feb 24, Pelosi was strolling Chinatown and inviting people to come there*.


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* Poor choice of words given Clown's tawdry, tainted tenure in Frisco.

Thank you for admitting that Trump has so far failed to insure widespread testing at adequate levels across the U.S.

How do you test for a new virus when scientists are trying to develop tests for it? As it under Trump's leadership tests were rapidly developed resulting in more test than the whole world combined. We are the envy of other countries as to how this new flu has been handled, especially over States led by conservative leaders. Our liberals Eastern States are our only embarrassments. New York's liberal leadership alone, has led their State to more deaths than most countries.

Elkin, pause a moment and think.

You do NOT need to test more, but to do more random testing to ascertain whether we really have national wide asymptomatic spread.

Such spread is GOOD, not bad as the dumb media outlets think, because it means we are on the road to wide antibodies and herd immunity.

Testing that would be helpful would be testing for those who have had the virus, testing for it, unless you're sick is a waste of time. You can test negative today but catch it tomorrow, which means you would have to test every American every day until we insure no Americans have it...we would then need to seal our borders and let NO ONE enter forever. In that case testing everyone would "eventually" eliminate the virus in the United States.

True.

The testing I support, for people with zero symptoms, would be more random testing such as that which revealed 50 to 85 times wider asymptomatic spread than previously assumed.

It may well be that America got covid in November 2019, and that many, many more people are asymptomatic.

Already, estimates are the covid's mortality rate is no worse than a bad regular flu seasons.

But...we have THIRTY THREE MILLION UNEMPLOYED and we have already spent TWO AND A HALF TRILLION.

Trump says that people don't need to get tested if they feel good....but Trump goes and goes and gets tested every day.