[namngulfvet]

Very nice Odummy you stupid ass jerk. New numbers are out today with 14% unemployment thats 23.4 million out of work now. And all Ojackass can do is campaign.. What a fucking looser...

[IHATELIBERALS]

Oh please Obama don't give a shit about this country! All he cares about is raising money to line his own pockets and having party's at the White House.

[namngulfvet]

I notice dildo bagfull hasnt touched this one yet.

[Leroy]

Obama has not met with his Jobs Council for more than 190 days... But he's had LOTS of campaign fund raisers and several vacations in that time.

[namngulfvet]

I notice a lack of input from Dildo and the other libs on this one..Wonder why

[themission1428]

I notice a lack of input from Dildo and the other libs on this one..Wonder why

Show us your source of this number 14%. And we will respond. More often than not, republicans have a history of cheating, lying and twisting facts. To show that i'm backing this up....look at your postings before this. Most of them were lies and twisted.

Infact, the only reason you started this new thread is because you get proven from your previous post that they were inaccurate. So create a new to disregard the old one.

Show us your source and we will show to the readers here that your 14% is not true based on industry standard.

[BilboBagend]

It's just the usual liar leroy kind of lie. You know, a combination of sound bites, comparing apples to tanks, and just simple made up shit from his delusions.

[Leroy]

Duldumb misses that his messiahs own press-agent has told the public that he's not met with the Jobs Council in 6 months+

CARNEY: No, there’s no specific reason except that the president’s obviously got a lot on his plate. But he continues to solicit and receive advice from numerous folks outside the administration about the economy, about ideas he can act on with Congress or administratively to help the economy grow and help it create jobs.

[BilboBagend]

Sorry liar leroy,

No one denies that there is some small grain of truth upon which you base your distortions and lies. Yet, your reputation precedes you and there is no reason to believe even that which you point out as object fact, let alone you delusional lies.

[namngulfvet]

Dildo bagfull wrote..."Sorry liar leroy,

No one denies that there is some small grain of truth upon which you base your distortions and lies. "

ROFLMAO AT DIDLDO BAGFULL.... LEROY DIDLD AND THEMISSION BOTH KNOW WERE TELLING THE WAY IT IS. THEY HAVE THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP OBONGOS BUTT HOLE THEY CANT SEE DAYLIGHT.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

On MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. David Shuster talks to Dan Gross about what the real unemployment numbers are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIUwsCsWQM

[themission1428]

Dildo bagfull wrote..."Sorry liar leroy,

No one denies that there is some small grain of truth upon which you base your distortions and lies. "

ROFLMAO AT DIDLDO BAGFULL.... LEROY DIDLD AND THEMISSION BOTH KNOW WERE TELLING THE WAY IT IS. THEY HAVE THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP OBONGOS BUTT HOLE THEY CANT SEE DAYLIGHT.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

On MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. David Shuster talks to Dan Gross about what the real unemployment numbers are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIUwsCsWQM

Namgulfvet I knew you were lying by twisting facts again. The same way you did with Obama's statement about small business owners.

Before i proceed to expose your lies let me say something about Obama's small business owner comment. Romney (your republican candidate) doubled down on that smear on Obama by making an ad where a small business owner testified that he and and his family did it on their own. A little bit of research exposed that he was not totally honest and tried to spin some things. His company availed of state and federal business loans to help his business. He also had government contracts awarded to his business. Total of almost $880,000.00 was the amount that the government helped his business thru loans. Everybody reading this can double check my facts at motherjones.com and huffingtonpost.com. I always cite the source for you readers so that you research on your own and that right wing posters here would do the same.

The only way to stop them or catch them lying or twisting the facts is by asking where is their source. Furthermore, having a source is just not merely enough you have to look at the source as well. Most right wing propaganda are made up by right wing who call themselves "journalist" but really are not. They dish out talking points and people like leroy and namgulfvet would cite them. Most americans would believe it in good faith but what they don't know is the "news" is not really a news. But a propaganda.

A similar example to his is the Romney ad about the business owner who they said built his own business without the help from the government. Turns out he was lying.

Also the real media did some fact checking about Romney and they found out that he as well made that similar comment like Obama. He said during the winter olympics he told the athletes that they didn't do it on their own but others help them. lol.....Just the hypocrisy of republicans. They will do anything up to the point of lying just to win.

Now going back to exposing the lies and twisting of facts by Namgulfvet...

1) It clearly stated in their video source that the actual unemployment is 7.2 percent. If you factor in the UNDERemployment it rises to 13.-14 percent. Unemployment is different that underemployment.

Unemployment and underemployment occurred also during the Bush Administration. Infact, they even went further by counting people working at McDonalds as manufacturing work to increase their numbers on the manufacturing sector.

Manufacturing sector are jobs that usually involved manufacturing cars, toys, household appliances, computers, etc. Jobs that you call really manufacturing not processing food in a restaurant.

The Bush administration want to destroy the middle class so they destroyed the union at car companies in detroit. This is why the car industry manufacturing went down. Most business outsource the jobs to China and other countries because the Bush adminstration encouraged it giving tax deductions to companies who set up businesses overseas.

When the numbers for the manufacturing sector went down the Bush administration change the definition of manufacturing. They expanded it by saying teenagers wrapping burgers at Mc Donalds are counted as manufacturing because wrapping sandwich is manufacturing it.

I'm telling you folks. If you only know how republicans lies and to the degree of how they are willing to go low is amazing. This is why i'm not surprise of people like namgulfvet, leroy and other right wing doing it. I am not worried as well countering their facts because more often than not they are lies, half truths, fact less or sneaky. It is in their DNA to do this. Democrats also do this but not as often, not as rampant and not as blatant as republicans.

Second, the video also stated that the private sector is not producing jobs as much as we want to so the government sector must cover up to lessen the numbers. But it is a fact that REPUBLICAN governors laid off government workers, refused funding from the federal government to add more jobs and fund social safety nets to unemployed people. The numbers went up because many of state workers were laid off all in the name of saving money.

The republicans want Obama to fail so they block every step that Obama takes to improve the economy and laid off state workers so Obama would look bad. People would blame whoever it is in the white house. It is interesting to note, that some proposals of Obama were republican ideas but they still said no. Why ? They want the economy to go down so Obama would not win a second term. Party first. Country second.

Sorry Namgulfvet.....but I just have to expose you again lying. You should be stop because you are destroying this country by serving your ideology first and America only second. We should be Americans first and party second.

[namngulfvet]

Themission you are so brain washed you are stupid.

[namngulfvet]

themisspiss you just keep sucking the shit out of Obaongo ass and pointing fingers. Odummy had two full years to do as he pleased and pissed it away. Hes put the US in debt to the tune of 16 Trillion dollars 6 trillion spent on his watch. there are 23.4 million out of work the housing marked is in the tank and you think he walks on water. Doood that Obama shit must taste really good the way you suck it up.

[themission1428]

Themission you are so brain washed you are stupid.

Hahahaha.....I knew Namgulfvet was twisting facts again. Is your post above the best you can do to refute my facts point by point ?

Bwahaha.....What a smackdown on Namgulfvet !!! He's been exposed again big time that he results to name calling again. Typical right wing radio talk show host response to facts.

Hey Namgulfvet....how's your free government healthcare for life ? Any of your family, relatives or friends using medicare and/or social security ? You should give it back because that socialism being all of them government funded. If you don't you are a hypocrite. bwahahaha !

[themission1428]

themisspiss you just keep sucking the shit out of Obaongo ass and pointing fingers. Odummy had two full years to do as he pleased and pissed it away. Hes put the US in debt to the tune of 16 Trillion dollars 6 trillion spent on his watch. there are 23.4 million out of work the housing marked is in the tank and you think he walks on water. Doood that Obama shit must taste really good the way you suck it up.

lol....dude....is this the best fact you can pull out of your ass ? It's not even yours. They are talking points use by right wing radio talk shows. I know that because i listen to them often to hear both sides of the political spectrum.

You are joking when this is the best you can respond right ?

Cheney said Palin was wrong choice for VP. hahaha...slap to tea partiers....Cheney exposed them, tea partiers, that they prefer ideology first...America second.

You Romney screwed up big time in London.....hahaha !!! Chris Cristie was right for saying indirectly that Romney will not win this november.

Poor Namgulfvet his party leaders ditch him and exposed him for his ideology first...America second. bwahaha !

[namngulfvet]

Themishap you dont know shit about my personal life. But lets assume that if I were disabled after spending time in combat and I were on disability then I would say any vet who is disabled from combat earned that right over some welfare puke like you.

The only lies you have exposed are those you and Daily douche spin. The fact remains there are currently 23.4 million out of work. While the numbers Ojacakss puts out is 8.5% unemployment which by the way if I were a president I would highly ashamed of especially after 3 years and dumping 6 Trillion into the economy and still not being able to get that 8% down... Getting back on track here the numbers Ojacakss is putting out is 8.5% but the fact is over all for those who have dropped off the unemployment list for those who have stopped looking is 14% unemployed and you know this is a fact. yet you and daily douche pretend its not you continue to defend the worst president in history only because you love the fact hes a marxist socialist like you. But then we have the hypocrite daily douche who claims hes a very rich wealthy retired PE.

Ojacakss has done nothing to increase the private sector hes thrown billions and billion of money at unions that has done nothing but fuck the tax payers...

[namngulfvet]

High unemployment isn't going away in America — not as long as the economy grows as slowly as it did in the April-June quarter.

Weak consumer spending held growth to an annual rate of just 1.5 percent, even less than the 2 percent rate in the first quarter. And few expect the economy to accelerate in the second half of the year as Europe's financial woes and a U.S. budget crisis restrain businesses and consumers.

The growth estimate Friday from the government suggested that the U.S. economy could be at risk of stalling three years after the recession ended. Economists generally say even 2 percent annual growth would add only about 90,000 jobs a month. That's too few to keep up with population growth and drive down the unemployment rate, which is stuck at 8.2 percent.

http://www.necn.com/07/27/12/Unemployme ... 6d37737f98


Despite unemployment rate improvement, U.S. poverty on track to highest since 1960s

The ranks of America's poor are on track to climb to levels unseen in nearly half a century, erasing gains from the war on poverty in the 1960s amid a weak economy and fraying government safety net.

Census figures for 2011 will be released this fall in the critical weeks ahead of the November elections.

The Associated Press surveyed more than a dozen economists, think tanks and academics, both nonpartisan and those with known liberal or conservative leanings, and found a broad consensus: The official poverty rate will rise from 15.1 percent in 2010, climbing as high as 15.7 percent. Several predicted a more modest gain, but even a 0.1 percentage point increase would put poverty at the highest since 1965.

[namngulfvet]

Keep your head in the sand UYB and Daily douche. keep your head in the sand.

[BilboBagend]

Unemployment is the biggest problem in our country right now. That is true. Ir will continue to be true as long as irrational destructive extreme austerity programs are continued. Continued by Republicans for purely political purposes at the expense of the American people. As long as Republican government officials continue policies of wholesale layoffs. As long as Republicans continue policies of funding entitlements for the wealthy and for corporations. As long as Republicans fail to address the deficit rationally and continue preferential tax entitlements for the wealthy.

There is no economic mystery. There are simply Republican lies about economics. Yes, lies, because Republican leadership does know better. They are simply willing to prey on the weak of mind and the weak of will for political and financial benefit of themselves.

[sugernthor]

Themission you dont even want to go down that road about our veterans. Have you watched your best friends guts open up from an enemy slug then bleed to death all over you while you are trying to pack his intestines back into him while in the heat of fire fight. Have you ever had to put a doz bodies into body bags then ship them out. Have you ever had cancer from Agent Orange or came down with diabetes because of an chemical from being in a combat zone. Have you ever walked through a village and picked a child out of trash can because the mother was an enemy sympathizer. Have you ever taken a slug that tore off your leg or an arm. have you ever ran over an IDE that blew your vehicle apart killing everyone but you leaving you to wonder why.

If not shut the fuck up about our vets being disabled and on the system you sorry ass piece of liberal slim. Each and every Vet when he signed up gave his country a blank check to what ever needed with his life. Yet cowards like you and other liberals seem to find it ok to belittle them. All I can say is its those like you who are nothing but coward who hide behind the political correct skirts of terrorist.

[namngulfvet]

Hey Namgulfvet....how's your free government healthcare for life ? Any of your family, relatives or friends using medicare and/or social security ? You should give it back because that socialism being all of them government funded. If you don't you are a hypocrite. bwahahaha !

Themission, Free government healthcare? Have you ever watched your best friend get his guts opened up from an enemy slug then watch him bleed to death while all you could do is hold his head and watch him die. Have you ever piled bodies bags on to an aircraft after a firefight to ship them home. Have you ever pulled a crying baby out of a trash can because the mother was a US sympathizer. Have you ever had cancer or became dietetic because of Agent Orange. Have you ever been in a vehicle that just ran over an IED and you were the only one to live and you wondered why. Or watched a buddy get his leg ripped off from an enemy slug or IED.

If not shut the fuck up you slime bag liberal terrorist. If I do get any medical "FREE" its because I and any other Vet who is on it paid for it when the government cashed that check I made out to them allowing them to use my life as they wished to maintain and fight for the rights and freedom of this coutry and other like it....

Its liberals like you and Obama who are destroying this country and all we have fought for. . You are the terrorist killing us from within...

[namngulfvet]

America is in its fasted recovery sense WWII were flying at a speed of 1.5%...

[wildcat]

Well I'm back.

[BilboBagend]

Some people feel the need to stray extremely far from the discussion in order to avpoid the reality of the discussion.

Gut wounds. Nasty, horrible stuff. A stupid cheap attempt to distract.

[namngulfvet]

dildo bagfull the mission brought it up about my personal life so fuck you and him. FYI the economy is still in the tank douche thanks to your do nothing but campaign porch monkey

[BilboBagend]

Considering the content and the style of your posts, or the style, I don't believe one thing you say about either politics or yourself. You simply come off as a loud mouthed extremist freak.

[namngulfvet]

dildo you have had more nic then anyone on this board trying to distort spin and put your liberal twist on everything. You dont have an oz of respect from anyone on here. Daily D, Wanderlust, Dildo bagfull, and few before that you fucking terrorist.

[BilboBagend]

More fantasy. ROFLMAO

[namngulfvet]

dildo you and ojackass can tell more lies then anyone I know. You both live in a fantasy world.

[themission1428]

Hey Namgulfvet....how's your free government healthcare for life ? Any of your family, relatives or friends using medicare and/or social security ? You should give it back because that socialism being all of them government funded. If you don't you are a hypocrite. bwahahaha !

Themission, Free government healthcare? Have you ever watched your best friend get his guts opened up from an enemy slug then watch him bleed to death while all you could do is hold his head and watch him die. Have you ever piled bodies bags on to an aircraft after a firefight to ship them home. Have you ever pulled a crying baby out of a trash can because the mother was a US sympathizer. Have you ever had cancer or became dietetic because of Agent Orange. Have you ever been in a vehicle that just ran over an IED and you were the only one to live and you wondered why. Or watched a buddy get his leg ripped off from an enemy slug or IED.

If not shut the fuck up you slime bag liberal terrorist. If I do get any medical "FREE" its because I and any other Vet who is on it paid for it when the government cashed that check I made out to them allowing them to use my life as they wished to maintain and fight for the rights and freedom of this coutry and other like it....

Its liberals like you and Obama who are destroying this country and all we have fought for. . You are the terrorist killing us from within...

Raising the patriotism flag again...Just because you fight for this country it does not give you the right to spew hate and racism here. The same is true with law enforcement here domestically. Just because someone is a cop it does not give them the right to do illegal things.

I have the utmost respect and forever gratitude to people who serve and fought for this country. I have uncles and cousins who fought for America. Some of them are still in the military. Others have retired and are disabled as well. We are all americans when it comes to defending this country. It does not know any political party, race, creed or sexual orientation. Also people have this notion that the military is made up of only one particular race. No it is not. From generations to generations different ethnic and diverse american fought and died for this country.

What i object to people here are spewing hate, racism and their political ideology behind the curtains of military service. The post that I am responding to is one clear example. All the things he said about experiences by vets may be true and i don't doubt it. But the way he uses it was too hide behind it to spew hate among other americans. Because if what he said was true...we might as well go to the topic of uranium and how it affected some of our veterans AND the most important part what did the republicans or specifically the Bush administration do ignoring it ? Also the post above is talking about the experiences of veterans and my question is where were this people when republicans trash and destroyed John Kerry's veteran record ? Where they passionate like this in posting this post ? Where was NAmgulfvet defending publicly John Kerry ? John McCain stood up for John Kerry's record as a veteran even though he is a republican. I can live with a John McCain presidency because of his service to this country. I don't care if he is a republican.

But this Namgulfvet and other right wing hate tea party republicans here so bitch and whine that Obama is black and call him a socialist but get free healthcare and hides behind his military service to spew hate and racism but never defends John Kerry when he was crucified by sean hannity and rush limbaugh and karl rove i find them hypocrites.

Where were they when Tammy Duckworth another veteran who lose her leg in combat and run for a senate seat as a democrat but was demonize by republicans by putting an ad where her face evolve to Osama Bin Laden. Did the hypocrite republicans defended her ? Probably not because for you its your hate against the person in the white house because of the color of his skin and your love for your ideology comes first. America is only second.

Consistencies my friends...consistency....you can't create rules for others and have that rule different when it comes to you.

[BilboBagend]

Military personnel like namngulf are soon separated from the military.

[namngulfvet]

Dildo bagfull says Raising the patriotism flag again...Just because you fight for this country it does not give you the right to spew hate and racism here. The same is true with law enforcement here domestically. Just because someone is a cop it does not give them the right to do illegal things.

Bagfull of liberal shit this is what themission threw at me in his Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:33 am post..
Hey Namgulfvet....how's your free government healthcare for life ? Any of your family, relatives or friends using medicare and/or social security ? You should give it back because that socialism being all of them government funded. If you don't you are a hypocrite. bwahahaha !

Now your telling me I dont have a right to defend my self... then you make false accusations that im racist.... Really is that the best you have... Heres a big hint bagfull.. I have no respect for anyone who belittles or mocks our troops.. Both you and themission are both terrorist and all liberals are nothing more then common terrorist. You know Ojacakss is the worst president in history... WTF Even he knows it. He cant even get donations to further his campaign.. Hes so hard up he is now digging into his own personal funds.

[justdoit]

What about those pesky liberal troops? Are you saying their terrorists?

[BilboBagend]

Where did I say anything about patriotism??? Mo shit from a shit for brains.

Now that you mention it for false superficial flag waving is pure bullshit.

[namngulfvet]

Ojackass and all his minions are terrorist commie fuck wads.

[BilboBagend]

Yes, we know, that's all you have, shit mouth and nothing more. :lol:

[themission1428]

dildo bagfull the mission brought it up about my personal life so fuck you and him. FYI the economy is still in the tank douche thanks to your do nothing but campaign porch monkey

Another evidence that Namgulfvet lied when he said that he is not a racist. Porch monkey is a racist term. I think whether the president is a democrat or republican the office of the presidency should be respected. The office of the US President has not party affiliation because once a person occupies that job temporarily he/she is thinking of America as the first priority above anything else.

[themission1428]

Dildo bagfull says Raising the patriotism flag again...Just because you fight for this country it does not give you the right to spew hate and racism here. The same is true with law enforcement here domestically. Just because someone is a cop it does not give them the right to do illegal things.

Bagfull of liberal shit this is what themission threw at me in his Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:33 am post..
Hey Namgulfvet....how's your free government healthcare for life ? Any of your family, relatives or friends using medicare and/or social security ? You should give it back because that socialism being all of them government funded. If you don't you are a hypocrite. bwahahaha !

Now your telling me I dont have a right to defend my self... then you make false accusations that im racist.... Really is that the best you have... Heres a big hint bagfull.. I have no respect for anyone who belittles or mocks our troops.. Both you and themission are both terrorist and all liberals are nothing more then common terrorist. You know Ojacakss is the worst president in history... WTF Even he knows it. He cant even get donations to further his campaign.. Hes so hard up he is now digging into his own personal funds.

Namgulfvet....i just posted two post that you made as evidence that you said you are not a racist as what you have written above. In light of those evidence, would you not admit that what you said that you are not a racist as indicated above is a lie ?

You are a veteran and you are a conservative. Conservatives are supposed to be God fearing and follow the commandments of God. One of them is thou shall not lie and thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbors. Also many people are reading this post.

Why are you lying all the time ? Please don't destroy the credibility of other God fearing conservatives and veterans here.

[namngulfvet]

Themoose you really like to play that race card dont you. I got news for you asswipe I could care fucking less if you think Im racist or not. You and bagfull are both terrorist lead by Ojackss the biggest Marxist Commie to have ever held a presidential seat. Ojacakss has circumvented congress, hes still trying to take away out gun rights and destroy the Constitution. He and those like him are infringing on my voting rights hes put this country finances in jeopardy, Hes put our countries security in jeopardy, and you want me to like him.

Fuck you themoose you and all liberals who are doing nothing but creating an entitlement society by tax and spending... You libs are nothing but a waste of human breath.

[namngulfvet]

Themoose you call me racist yet I dont see you correcting Ojackass on his racist moves. Ojacakss has done more to divide and create racism then all the president put together. It wont be long and hes going to have a war between us and Mexico with all the Mexicans poring across the border unchecked. Even the Blacks are now making a stand against Ojackass.

[themission1428]

Themoose you really like to play that race card dont you. I got news for you asswipe I could care fucking less if you think Im racist or not. You and bagfull are both terrorist lead by Ojackss the biggest Marxist Commie to have ever held a presidential seat. Ojacakss has circumvented congress, hes still trying to take away out gun rights and destroy the Constitution. He and those like him are infringing on my voting rights hes put this country finances in jeopardy, Hes put our countries security in jeopardy, and you want me to like him.

Fuck you themoose you and all liberals who are doing nothing but creating an entitlement society by tax and spending... You libs are nothing but a waste of human breath.

First of all Namgulfvet denied that he is a racist. When an evidence of him saying racist statement was posted and he could not deny it he now says and i qoute "I could care fucking less if you think im racist or not." Now he admits and don't care he is a racist.

He tried to lie about being a racist first. Pounding his chest and saying "how dare you accuse me of being a racist when i'm a veteran who serve this country." When confronted and could not deny it he admits and really don't care being a racist.

Now imagine if you have a son or daughter or relative or husband or wife serving in the military and Namgulfvet is his commanding officer. Picture this namgulfvet endangering the safety of your love ones just because the color of his/her skin. Or because of his/her sexual orientation or gender. Is this the kind of military you want your love ones serving for ? With a racist commanding officer or fellow soldier. Or let's say Namgulfvet is a minority and is a racist and doesn't like certain races or gender. How would you feel ?

Would you be in favor of giving your tax money to a racist and liar ? Our military fights for one flag alone and that is the United States of America. It should not have place for racist people because it is a disrespect for other soldiers who have fought for our flag.