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#78106
In excerpts from paid speeches, Clinton admits to taking different public and private positions. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton admitted she takes two positions on policy issues.

One in private — ostensibly, the “real” position and one for the public “It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position. Sometimes you just have to tell the public what they want to hear to get things accomplished, then do what you feel is best for our goals. It's amazing how they just need that sound bite to make them feel good about themselves.”
#78111
When you actually read what Trump said, and put it into the context of banter with some entertainment host, the vibe of the kidding around is apparent.

The only people shocked by this are Hillary supporters.

And gays like D Lemon and A Cooper.
#78113
Let's see what Dumb Donnie actually said:


Donald Trump: You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach.

Unknown: She used to be great. She's still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unknown: That's huge news.

Trump: No, no, Nancy. No this was — and I moved on her very heavily, in fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. In the purple.

Various: Whoa! Yes! Whoa!

Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

Trump: Maybe it's a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it's her. It's —

Trump: Yeah, that's her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

Bush: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Bush: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that's good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello, how are you, hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I'm doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We're ready, let's go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Absolutely. Melania said this was OK.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well you've got a nice co-star here.

Trump: Good. After you.

Trump: Come on, Billy, don't be shy.

Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.

Zucker: I'm sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: It's hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good. That's better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is —

Trump: That's better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?

Trump: I don't know, that's tough competition.

Zucker: That's some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one. Yep, I'll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go.

Bush: Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: OK. OK. Oh, you're finished?

Bush: You're my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh, good.

Bush: I'm gonna go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? OK.
#78114
Two guys joking around to kill a little time.

You see that sort of seeking rapport relating to sports, cars, women, and it is often vulgar.

Come on, we are all men of the world here, and nobody is genuinely offended by this.

What is offensive is Hillary telling Wall Street she has a public and a private position on big political issues.
#78116
We better make sure everyone has the opportunity to read Dumb Donnie's straight talk:


Donald Trump: You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach.

Unknown: She used to be great. She's still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unknown: That's huge news.

Trump: No, no, Nancy. No this was — and I moved on her very heavily, in fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. In the purple.

Various: Whoa! Yes! Whoa!

Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

Trump: Maybe it's a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it's her. It's —

Trump: Yeah, that's her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

Bush: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Bush: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that's good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello, how are you, hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I'm doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We're ready, let's go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Absolutely. Melania said this was OK.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well you've got a nice co-star here.

Trump: Good. After you.

Trump: Come on, Billy, don't be shy.

Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.

Zucker: I'm sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: It's hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good. That's better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is —

Trump: That's better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?

Trump: I don't know, that's tough competition.

Zucker: That's some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one. Yep, I'll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go.

Bush: Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: OK. OK. Oh, you're finished?

Bush: You're my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh, good.

Bush: I'm gonna go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? OK.
#78120
"What is offensive is Hillary telling Wall Street she has a public and a private position on big political issues."-johnfool

Don't be so naive, johnny.
EVERY politician has a public and a private position on big political issues.

Remember Romney telling the rich folk fundraiser that "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

Do you think he would dare say that sort of thing publicly as his position on the American public?

You and RealTool are apparently happy to live in your conservative la-la-land where you unquestioningly take at face value whatever your politicians tell you.
You're some of the "useful idiots" we hear about.
#78122
It is certainly true that every politician has a public and private speech pattern, but it is bad for Hillary that she was exposed saying to Wall Street just what Bernie Sanders said she might say.

As to naivete, I grew up thinking JFK was Sir Galahad and then learned he had banged more bimbos than Clinton ever dreamed of.

LBJ and Nixon were skilled liars -- more skilled than Hillary.

Nobody on the forum is naive re politicians.
#78125
"What is offensive is Hillary telling Wall Street she has a public and a private position on big political issues."-johnfool 8:03 p.m.

"It is certainly true that every politician has a public and private speech pattern,..."-johnforbes 9:30 p.m.

Wow! It now takes johnforbes only an hour and a half to admit he's a hypocrite. :lol:
#78126
Bubba Boy Clinton is a rapist and serial sexual predator and the left is totally silent.

Trump uses crude language and they are shocked, SHOCKED!

Killery ignores repeated requests for increased embassy security and the result is an American ambassador is sodomized and killed along with three other Americans.

But Killery and her leftist minions are consumed with Trump releasing his tax returns.

Anything wrong with this picture?

Absent AssClown Loser Tool's anticipated silly ass word game, no one will be able to defend the absurdity of the left.
#78128
We probably should once again look at Dumb Donnie's locker room straight talk.


Donald Trump: You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach.

Unknown: She used to be great. She's still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unknown: That's huge news.

Trump: No, no, Nancy. No this was — and I moved on her very heavily, in fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. In the purple.

Various: Whoa! Yes! Whoa!

Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

Trump: Maybe it's a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it's her. It's —

Trump: Yeah, that's her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

Bush: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Bush: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that's good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello, how are you, hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I'm doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We're ready, let's go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Absolutely. Melania said this was OK.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well you've got a nice co-star here.

Trump: Good. After you.

Trump: Come on, Billy, don't be shy.

Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.

Zucker: I'm sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: It's hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good. That's better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is —

Trump: That's better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?

Trump: I don't know, that's tough competition.

Zucker: That's some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one. Yep, I'll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go.

Bush: Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: OK. OK. Oh, you're finished?

Bush: You're my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh, good.

Bush: I'm gonna go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? OK.
#78132
Hmmm. Looks like we need to repost Trump's locker room straight talk.


Donald Trump: You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach.

Unknown: She used to be great. She's still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unknown: That's huge news.

Trump: No, no, Nancy. No this was — and I moved on her very heavily, in fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. In the purple.

Various: Whoa! Yes! Whoa!

Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

Trump: Maybe it's a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it's her. It's —

Trump: Yeah, that's her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

Bush: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Bush: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that's good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello, how are you, hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I'm doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We're ready, let's go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Absolutely. Melania said this was OK.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well you've got a nice co-star here.

Trump: Good. After you.

Trump: Come on, Billy, don't be shy.

Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.

Zucker: I'm sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: It's hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good. That's better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is —

Trump: That's better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?

Trump: I don't know, that's tough competition.

Zucker: That's some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one. Yep, I'll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go.

Bush: Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: OK. OK. Oh, you're finished?

Bush: You're my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh, good.

Bush: I'm gonna go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? OK.
#78143
Obviously, as a Trump Deplorable, Forbes is simply neither intellectually nor morally equipped to distinguish between locker room talk and boasting about committing sexual assault.

That's why he and millions of other deplorables are voting Trump!
#78148
And so another Trump Deplorable apparently believes non-deplorable folks should get over Trump assaulting women because he likes pussy.

I guess that makes perfect sense to deplorable people and thus explains why they are deplorable.
#78162
Another emailed leak in which Hillary called Bernie supporters "a bucket of losers" That after yesterday's leak where she promised 'open trade and open borders' in her private, paid speeches while she tells voters she against open borders and open trade.

Yet libtards are stuck on Trump for saying women like stars and they'll let you touch their pussies. :lol: :lol: :lol:
#78167
Trump "apologizes" for his comments about women...then goes on saying that he wants to discuss Bill Clinton???
He should, he may a locker room type "comment" Bill Clinton raped and molested women and Hillary Clinton not only enable him, she trashed the victims. The most damaging though is when Hillary told a jury that a 12 year old rape victim who was in comma for 5 days was a tramp who sought older men. Then laughed about she got the man off with a light sentence although he was guilty as hell. That 12 year old girl was probably the first female victim trashed by Hillary then came at least 20 more to defend her husband. I hope during the debate Trump compare his "comments" to the Clinton's actions. It would destroy her.
#78172
Pretty sure this has already been posted. But just in case:


Donald Trump: You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach.

Unknown: She used to be great. She's still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unknown: That's huge news.

Trump: No, no, Nancy. No this was — and I moved on her very heavily, in fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. In the purple.

Various: Whoa! Yes! Whoa!

Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

Trump: Maybe it's a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it's her. It's —

Trump: Yeah, that's her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

Bush: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Bush: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that's good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello, how are you, hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I'm doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We're ready, let's go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Absolutely. Melania said this was OK.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well you've got a nice co-star here.

Trump: Good. After you.

Trump: Come on, Billy, don't be shy.

Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.

Zucker: I'm sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: It's hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good. That's better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is —

Trump: That's better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?

Trump: I don't know, that's tough competition.

Zucker: That's some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one. Yep, I'll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go.

Bush: Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: OK. OK. Oh, you're finished?

Bush: You're my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh, good.

Bush: I'm gonna go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? OK.
#78226
Come on, John McCain?

Paul Ryan?

They never supported Trump in the first place.

The interesting one is Romney, who should have run himself if he wanted to be in the mix.

Why didn't he instead of just hanging around hoping somebody would bring him in as a substitute?
#78228
Yeah, who cares about McCain? He was a loser that was captured and spent time in a North Vietnamese prison camp.

Like Trump, Forbes prefers guys who weren't captured by the enemy.





You and Team Trump got the Deplorable train running at full speed today, Forbes.
#78236
No, I grew up knowing a fellow who was a POW in WW II.

I wrote up a report on his time which is in the National World War II Museum in New Orleans.

Most who become POWs have little choice -- nobody wants to die today as opposed to perhaps surviving long-term.

I respect McCain's time as a POW. Heck, I'd be impatient after 30 minutes as a POW, much less years.

But McCain has done nothing in his decades in power to deserve respect otherwise.
#78239
Trump isn't my "leader" any more than Hillary is your "leader."

As the babble goes, this is a binary choice and Hillary would be very bad for America.

Trump is hardly a perfect candidate, and Hillary (a corrupt old windbag married to Bill of Many Mistresses) sure ain't.
#78246
Many people make this mistake, but look up what "exponent" means.

Also, the outlook of a person governs what merit one assigns a candidate.

For example, if a person likes where America is heading (toward 20 trillion in debt, open borders, nigh stagnant GDP growth), they should vote for Hillary.

If a person believes America is heading in the wrong direction, then he should vote for the change agent capitalist in this race.
#78263
3. rising or expanding at a steady and usually rapid rate:

Example: Forbes experienced exponential arousal with each mile he drew closer to The Tool House, a gay beach hangout on Fire Island where he has reigned as Queen for many years.
#78270
It is a common use, as we both know.

I was merely noting that most people don't know what it means and why it is generally inaccurate.

It was the wrong word for Grog to use, but then this entire forum has been one of the best educational experiences of his lifetime.
#78277
No. It was the correct word used correctly.

You don't know that probably because when you got your "education" from Trump University, you missed the grammar class when you were hosting some soirée at Fire Island.
#78284
Grog, I really wasn't being very critical of you.

You used it casually, as most people do. I understand that use.

Clearly, if you knew more math, you would not have tossed out that word as you did.

You'll be more careful in the future, in places where words actually matter, so you've learned something here.
#78288
Well Trump put the pussy comment to bed and woke up the Hillary lies, what a debate. You notice no televised after debate party by Hillary, she crawled out of there, didn't even wait for Bubba who almost sprinted to exit as soon as it was over. People tried to shake his hand and he acted like they weren't even there as he fled.
#78320
You think Trump put the "locker room talk" of sexual assault to bed?
"Those women let stars touch their pussy" is sexual assault? Plus he said they let stars do it, nothing about him ever doing it or wanting to do it. Now you want to talk about sexual assault listen to the Clinton victims.
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