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#63101
Since there has been much evasion and obfuscation about Hillary Rodham Clinton’s email use, it seems appropriate to step back and simply review what we know in light of the law. It’s also instructive to compare Clinton’s situation to arguably the most famous case of our time related to the improper handling of classified materials, namely, the case of Gen. David Petraeus.

Instead of turning his journals — so-called “black books” — over to the Defense Department or CIA when he left either of those organizations, Petraeus kept them at his home — an unsecure location — and provided them to his paramour/biographer, Paula Broadwell, at another private residence. (None of the classified information in the black books was used in his biography.)

On April 23, Petraeus pled guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials under 18 USC §1924. Many in the intelligence community were outraged at the perceived “slap on the wrist” he received, at a time when the Justice Department was seeking very strong penalties against lesser officials for *** to the media.

According to the law, there are five elements that must be met for a violation of the statute, and they can all be found in section (a) of the statute: “(1) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, (2) by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, (3) knowingly removes such documents or materials (4) without authority and (5) with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location [shall be guilty of this offense].”

The Petraeus case meets those conditions and so does Clinton’s.

Clinton originally denied that any of her emails contained classified information, but soon abandoned that claim. So far, 150 emails containing classified information have been identified on her server, including two that included information determined to be Top Secret.

She then fell back on the claim that none of the emails in question was “marked classified” at the time she was dealing with them. The marking is not what makes the material classified; it’s the nature of the information itself. As secretary of state, Clinton knew this, and in fact she would have been re-briefed annually on this point as a condition of maintaining her clearance to access classified information.

Then there’s location. Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).

Two examples demonstrate this point.

When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location — for both storage and transfer.

Additionally, when Clinton moved the server to Platte River Networks (a private company) in June 2013, and then again when she transferred the contents of the server to her private lawyers in 2014, the classified materials were in each instance again removed to another unsecured location.

Next we have the lack of proper authority to move or hold classified information somewhere, i.e., the “unauthorized location.”

While it’s possible for a private residence to be an “authorized” location, and it’s also possible for non-government servers and networks to be “authorized” to house and transfer classified materials, there are specific and stringent requirements to achieve such status. Simply being secretary of state didn’t allow Clinton to authorize herself to deviate from the requirements of retaining and transmitting classified documents, materials and information.

There is no known evidence that her arrangement to use the private email server in her home was undertaken with proper authority.

Finally, there’s the intent to “retain” the classified documents or materials at an unauthorized location.

The very purpose of Clinton’s server was to intentionally retain documents and materials — all emails and attachments — on the server in her house, including classified materials.

The intent required is only to undertake the action, i.e., to retain the classified documents and materials in the unauthorized fashion addressed in this statute. That’s it.

It borders on inconceivable that Clinton didn’t know that the emails she received, and more obviously, the emails that she created, stored and sent with the server, would contain classified information.

Simply put, Mrs. Clinton is already in just as bad — or worse — of a legal situation than Petraeus faced.

Does this mean she’ll be charged? FBI Director James Comey has a long history of ignoring political pressure. So it’s likely that the FBI will recommend prosecution, and then it will be up to President Obama’s Justice Department to decide whether to proceed. Stay tuned.
#63102
There is no doubt she is guilty, and could be charged with one count for every classified e mail she sent, received and for each time she moved e mails from one server to another, ie, from her home server to the company she hired to maintain the server, Platte River something or other (the one that kept the server in an apartment bathroom closet).
(Note to AssClown Loser Lucky: this isn't my take on the matter, but the opinion of a former Federal prosecutor I heard being interviewed on the matter yesterday. Sorry to have to spike your anticipated tantrum of righteous indignation over my posting legal opinions).

The question is: will the Obozo Justice dept. choose to do anything about it?

On a totally separate but interesting note, I watched on Netflix the other day a documentary on Boston crime kingpin Whitey Bulger. Apparently that fucker had everybody in Boston bought and paid for. Except those he either murdered himself or had murdered. Local cops, FBI, Justice Dept. officials, anyone he could find that would take a buck.
So the idea of getting justice from any of our law enforcement agencies is an open question.
#63105
There are about a dozen statutes involved in this, so the problem is even worse for Hilly.

Everybody at the Dept of State, and a bunch of tech and other folks at the W House, surely knew there was no chance she could ever comply with FOIA requests.

Every person who has ever worked for the fed govt is aware you cannot conduct public business with private email. This is basic.

Also, your work products belong to the public -- not you.

Also, a Sec of State deals with classified material on a daily basis. Were it otherwise, you could just ask some fellow you meet on the street to negotiate some treaty.

The question is: Will the Dept of Justice, which was turned into a dept of unequal justice by Holder, do anything about this mess with Hillary?
#63116
Well, the reply would be that he is a member of the Right Wing and hates women.

Just yesterday, the head of Planned Parenthood said that it was sexist to question matters such as the sale of baby parts.

So what is left for her to do but play the "You're a sexist" card?
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