Open Discussions about the VoyeurWeb.com site
By domdoc
#3303
I have unfortunately seen way too many contributers leave because of the negative comments of just a few immature members. I would like to see some sort of policy/rule/mechanism to support "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" on the majority of threads where people post their pictures... Censorship or self-censorship, yes it is... You are free to take your disrespecful comments elsewhere. I pay my membership fee to see the pictures & stories, not hear from someone so insecure that the only way they can make themselves feel better is by knocking someone else down. Thank you.
#3358
domdoc wrote:I have unfortunately seen way too many contributers leave because of the negative comments of just a few immature members. I would like to see some sort of policy/rule/mechanism to support "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" on the majority of threads where people post their pictures... Censorship or self-censorship, yes it is... You are free to take your disrespecful comments elsewhere. I pay my membership fee to see the pictures & stories, not hear from someone so insecure that the only way they can make themselves feel better is by knocking someone else down. Thank you.
Totally agreed and New VW Management agrees with this position 100%.
Plus, it just makes no sense-- the entire concept of voyeurism is about people with all sizes, shapes and forms to freely express themselves in a platform where that expression is encouraged--- how does posting negative comments to that expression -- an act of encouragement. There will be none of that-- at least for as long as I am monitoring the site!
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By Jammer
#3362
VWPublicRelations wrote:
domdoc wrote:I have unfortunately seen way too many contributers leave because of the negative comments of just a few immature members. I would like to see some sort of policy/rule/mechanism to support "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" on the majority of threads where people post their pictures... Censorship or self-censorship, yes it is... You are free to take your disrespecful comments elsewhere. I pay my membership fee to see the pictures & stories, not hear from someone so insecure that the only way they can make themselves feel better is by knocking someone else down. Thank you.
Totally agreed and New VW Management agrees with this position 100%.
Plus, it just makes no sense-- the entire concept of voyeurism is about people with all sizes, shapes and forms to freely express themselves in a platform where that expression is encouraged--- how does posting negative comments to that expression -- an act of encouragement. There will be none of that-- at least for as long as I am monitoring the site!
You can't monitor the site 24/7. I know people don't like the thought of having to register...but it might be the only way to ensure that contributors don't leave the site because of abusive comments. The only way to greatly reduce that type of comment is to make it mandatory to register before posting a photo or a comment. When a person has been reported they should be warned...and if reported again, they should be suspended or banned. I'm talking about the free sections of VW here of course. Another option would be to give the contributor the ability to remove any comment that they do not like...as they currently have in the playground. This way with a simple click, the comment disappears. This would not stop the abusive comments, but it would at least give the contributor the feel of being in control of the situation instead of having to just having to accept it. You should note that the number of rude or offensive comments that get posted in the Playground is almost nil. If I had to guess, there have been less then a dozen total since it's inception. On the other hand, you can see a dozen or more in the feedback of just a couple of photos in the tit flash some times.
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By rockclimber
#3411
I agree, negative coments ruin the experience for the content poster and thats what drives the site!
By MDP
#3416
Well practice what you preach then...this whole thing started with negative remarks from this management of this site from the very beginning. You sparked anger... that's a fact.

Its still not back up you made a commitment of 4-7 days its going on 2 weeks plus. The rule is don't over commit and speak truths. Again I do not care who took what and the whole point of view on the so called employee who took it.

Get the site back up and people will shut up.... until then you deserve the critical remarks made.

Paying customers have the right to bitch about poor customer service, that's a customers right. We paid the money you didn't. If its free then no gripes.

I deal with customers everyday and when we fail to perform we hear about it. But the difference is we do something about it and we keep customers because of it.
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By Skeetz
#3417
Let me add my agreement as well and say thank you for the new "report comment" button. I used it the other night and the offensive "Prick," as he called himself was gone by early morning.

That made posting an appropriate comment about a beautiful pic possible. It wouldn't have made sense otherwise, with his nonsense in between.

So I thank management for that!
By som1crzy
#3427
The best way to eliminate degrading comments is to NEVER allow anonymous poster or multi nics.

If they know they will be banned on a "NO TOLERANCE" basis, there will not be anymore abusive language on the BB.

Simple as that.

Mr Som1crzy
By zardoz1962
#3502
VWPublicRelations wrote: Totally agreed and New VW Management agrees with this position 100%.
Plus, it just makes no sense-- the entire concept of voyeurism is about people with all sizes, shapes and forms to freely express themselves in a platform where that expression is encouraged--- how does posting negative comments to that expression -- an act of encouragement. There will be none of that-- at least for as long as I am monitoring the site!
I have to disagree here. For many contributors, yes they do not want to see the negative. For others though, its just as important to know they are seeing what is really there, not some unknown, faceless entities filter.

I still say the best way is to give them a choice of o comments, comments only from registered names, and comments from anyone, including anonymous. Maybe implement some sort of filtering on newly registered names until they have made 10 comments or something like that, but afterwards unfiltered except in the case of something extreme. That lets those who want the protection choose the level of protection they want.

It is pretty easy to drift from a rule of nothing abusive to nothing negative to nothing not positive. The attraction of the site is that is is real. Just like MFF, filtering of comments changes it into a manufactured site, something far less interesting.

Any filtering needs to be carefully considered and judiciously applied. A blanket
There will be none of that-- at least for as long as I am monitoring the site!
is way to big of a hammer.
By VixenHotwife
#3514
I do not think we should ban negative comments...
We need only to remember that those making them are almost certainly associated with, and will profit from, keeping VW and Rc gone as long as possible, and taking membership from here to their ******** site.
How could anyone be so off base as to praise the very people who caused this to happen????
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By Jammer
#3525
I think the original post was talking about disparaging comments on the site itself. That's been a very big concern of mine...and one that I hope will be addressed when this site comes back into operation. I can't imagine why any woman would take the time and effort to pose for a photo of herself and then to post it when there is a decent chance that she will be publicly insulted. There have been way too many contributors that have either left for other sites or simply stopped posting because of this abuse. And just to be clear here, it's not the types of comments that suggest using better lighting or a better camera...and it's not the graphic comments that suggest what the commenter would like to do with or to the contributor that I'm talking about here. It's the comments calling them fat, ugly or claiming that they are male that most of the contributors (and I) are objecting to.

I don't think many people have a serious concern about critical or negative comments that get posted in a BB such as this...at least it's a level playing field with everyone having to register and no one is showing their tits...almost no one. By the way...has anyone noticed a critical comment posted anywhere on this BB about any of the tit pics that have been uploaded here?
By mark9
#3536
My wife and I have been on this site since it started, I have a suggestion. Since it is impossible to moderate 24/7 how about making it easier to submit a complaint and then moderators can judge for themselves what action to take. The problems we had were never traced because it happens fast and it was difficult to call attention to the offender. We stopped posting a long time ago due to either no comments or worse, bad comments
By Torga
#3759
I advocate no censorship of any comments, and without qualification. The existing VW mechanism of "flagging as inappropriate" which then leads to review and removal of any comments should be continued, because that reflects a peer review after the fact, not censorship. As to the notion that negative comments cause people to decline to submit pictures, that's not a strong enough reason for censorship. No censorship and having a risk of losing a future submission go together. Freedom to express outweighs losing submissions.
By coldheartt
#5327
personally, I think there is a big difference between a negative comment and an abusive, rude and/or intentionally hurtful or spiteful comment, I have posted comments that were critical of a pose, lighting, outfit, photo quality, but never knocked a persons looks, weight, or questioning their heritage!
By FAQ
#5332
We should require each viewer to register before viewing any image, and before being able to view the next image, the viewer should write a fifty word comment full of praise and appreciation subject to some auto-bot filtering to ensure each comment reflects the subject of the image and is not duplicated from a previous image.

This will attract contributor loyalty to posting here. Of course, only a few contributors will remain to heap false praise on each other.
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By Jammer
#5334
Torga wrote:I advocate no censorship of any comments, and without qualification. The existing VW mechanism of "flagging as inappropriate" which then leads to review and removal of any comments should be continued, because that reflects a peer review after the fact, not censorship. As to the notion that negative comments cause people to decline to submit pictures, that's not a strong enough reason for censorship. No censorship and having a risk of losing a future submission go together. Freedom to express outweighs losing submissions.
If you have been paying attention to the tit flash for the last two years, you would know that a lot of great contributors have left because of abusive treatment. I'm talking about the real, legitimate contributor, the woman that posts her own photos, not the fakes who post pics copied from other sites or guys that post pics of their ex-wives or ex-girlfriends. Those of us who have frequented the tit flash for a long period will remember some very good contributors that have been chased away by this abuse. What has gradually happened over this period is the 'real' women are leaving and we are left with more and more 'fakes'...the revenge pics or the stolen pics. I don't know about you, but if I just wanted to see nudity without caring about where it came from, there are much better free sites out there then VW to get it from. VC is instituting the ability for the contributor to remove unwanted comments quickly and easily. If VW returns and does nothing to reduce the abuse, then we will get to see how important this ability is to the contributors...
By Livinthalowlife
#5630
This is a HUGE ISSUE for me!!! I have been a loyal fan since week 1!!!! My 2 previous girlfriends were also devoted fans and both contributors. But because one, the model from memphis TN, had b cup tits and the other, a 34 year old MILF with d cups and the body of an 18 year old, had a small scar from a c-section and were critisized on the first 2 times the posted, they never posted again! And for you fuckers that hated on them you know damn well you were sitting your fat ass in a bean bag chair in your mom's basement jerking with some pam spray or olive oil!
By twdoggggx
#5658
I do not believe that they will re-launch. Probably just waiting until everyone just goes away and ignores this. We will see if we get our new user names and passwords! Remember this was only going to be for 5 - 7 days they first said! Believe it when I see it!
By Dooder
#5867
The best way to eliminate disparaging comment is to eliminate photos that do not rise to the quality expected of contributors. Examples of low quality photos are: series of photos that are nearly identical, series of photos taken from a movie, off-topic photos, ugly and fat subjects, photos taken from too far away, blurry photos, too dark photos, photos with faces distorted, etc.

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