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By elklindo69
#53692
We’ve been keeping a close eye on developments in Alabama, where marriage equality is advancing by way of the federal courts, but where a state-based legal crisis is coming to a head today.

The U.S. Supreme Court announced this morning that it would not intervene to stop same-sex marriages in Alabama – the wishes of Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas were ignored – which meant the lower court rulings stand and many same-sex couples have spent the morning getting legally married in the Heart of Dixie.

But not everywhere in the state, thanks in part to one powerful, extremist official.
Alabama’s controversial chief justice, Roy Moore, issued an order to probate judges Sunday that they cannot perform same-sex marriages – one day before gay men and lesbians could begin marrying in the state under a federal ruling.

Moore, who has written several letters and orders on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage in the Southern state, said interpretations of a federal judge’s decision to strike down Alabama’s ban in January were “creating confusion and disarray in the administration of the law.”
Well, someone is certainly creating confusion and disarray in the administration of the law, but in this case, I’m afraid it’s Roy Moore, not the federal courts.

Moore, the chief justice of the state Supreme Court who has long believed federal courts have no legal authority over state laws, has argued repeatedly in recent weeks that Alabama courts can feel free to ignore federal court rulings on marriage. It led to last night’s order in which Moore, because he felt like it, told probate judges that Alabama’s ban on marriage equality remains intact, federal courts be damned.

And some local judges are taking Moore’s instructions seriously.
Alabama today is the 37th state in the nation where same-sex marriage is legal, but the decision whether to issue same-sex couples marriage licenses varies from county to county.

As a ruling ending the gay marriage ban was to take effect, couples around the state arrived at county courthouses this morning. Chief Justice Roy Moore, however, ordered probate judges not to issue the licenses.
What we have, in other words, is a situation in which some in Alabama are ignoring a federal court order, while others honor it.

One local jurist, Washington County Judge Nick Wiliams, explained his refusal to marry gays couples this way: “I’m not worried about following the U.S. Constitution.” Take a moment to appreciate the fact that this comment came from a sitting judge.

If you find yourself thinking this morning about George Wallace, you’re certainly not alone. Indeed, the parallels are important: the last time officials in Alabama said their desire to discriminate outweighed federal court rulings, it didn’t turn out well.

That said, it’s equally important to note who is – and isn’t – filling Wallace’s shoes. The Birmingham News’ Charles J. Dean explained this morning that Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley (R) has decided not to read from Roy Moore’s script (thanks to my colleague Laura Conaway for the heads-up).
Moore’s actions came after Bentley refused more than once last week to fill Wallace’s shoes and take what would have been meaningless actions to try to block the federal court order. Bentley refused to become the next Alabama governor making a show of defying the law in front of TV cameras and in the process sending the message that our state is still intolerant and a lawless place for some of its citizens who happen to be different from the majority.

But what Bentley refused to do, Moore did do. He is trying to stand in the courthouse door as surely as Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door. Shame on him. […]

On Sunday, in his own First Baptist Church of Tuscaloosa, Bentley heard his pastor call on him to “do the right thing” and take some kind of action to stop same-sex marriage. To hear your pastor tell you to do the right thing is to imply you are doing the wrong thing. That has to be hard to hear coming from someone you look to for spiritual guidance. The appeal did not change Bentley’s mind. He was not going to stand in the courthouse door and defy the law, as Wallace did and as Moore did a decade ago when he refused to follow a federal court order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state’s Judicial Building.

Remember, Bentley is no moderate. He’s a staunch, conservative Republican who opposes marriage equality. But he’s also a governor who believes that the rule of law matters – and states can’t simply ignore federal court orders they don’t like. Bentley is well aware of George Wallace’s legacy, and as of this morning, he won’t repeat history.

As for Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange (R), the state official apparently wants to keep his distance from the whole thing: “Strange said that while probate judges did not report to him, he advised them to talk to their attorneys about how to respond to the ruling and referred state agencies to the governor’s office with questions about the ruling.”
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By RealJustme
#53700
Ah the 1958 Dystopia, not only were the rocker panels rust prone, if you didn't keep the cowls clear of pine needles and leaves they would rust, resulting in water leaking onto your floor boards also rusting them.
By Clownkicker
#53708
Oddly enough, 1958 was also the year johnforbes' mother developed her chronic dyspesia when she realized her son would never develop emotionally beyond the second grade level.

She was destined to raise a colossal twit.
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By tvd
#53719
In retrospect, I am pleased that Elk is learning new words, improving his vocabulary, etc.
I remember fondly when he learned "ad hominem", as he began using it in almost every posy.
But these new words are a vast improvement over his standard fare of "LAMO" :lol: and :shock: .
By Clownkicker
#53746
1958 was also the year johnforbes contracted the virulent and incurable "Stultus adfligunt stercore" strain of oral dysentery that struck down so many of his generation.
This debilitating and exhausting illness accounts for the second grade glitch in johnforbes' education.

Since that day, those around johnforbes have been subjected to an endless stream of projectile unsupported and enervating stupid shit befouling their persons.

Sadly, RealTool is the latest victim of this contagion that has never really been brought under control, even a half century later.
By johnforbes
#53769
Clownhacker is not fit to shine Freddy Fender's fender skirts.

Clownsicker does wear skirts, but doesn't have the legs for 'em.
By Clownkicker
#53772
"Clown there is no town or city named Dystopia, you're loosing it dude."-RealTool
"Clown you wouldn't recognize a 1958 Dystopia if it ran over you."-RealAsswipe

There is no car named Dystopia either, you dumbfuck.
Does that mean YOU'RE "loosing" it, dude?

You just never know when to leave it alone. You're determined to make an ass of yourself, even when someone tries to let you off the hook.

If you're not smart enough to get the joke, you should have enough sense to shut your mouth.
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By RealJustme
#53775
If you're not smart enough to get the joke, you should have enough sense to shut your mouth.
So you were trying to be funny when you said he lived in Dystopia? Dystopia means "not a good place", so why would that be funny?
By elklindo69
#53776
tvd wrote:But these new words are a vast improvement over his standard fare of "LAMO" :lol: and :shock: .
Here's another one that will dazzle you...dyslexia!

LMAO
By elklindo69
#53777
tvd wrote:elk learns a new word and decides to impress everybody.
We'll be impressed if you show up with a brain...

The muzzie and birth certificate standard fare are worn out.
By Clownkicker
#53789
"So you were trying to be funny when you said he lived in Dystopia? Dystopia means "not a good place", so why would that be funny?"-RealTool


Tool, the dimwitted really shouldn't try to play this game.

Look at what sillydope said: "Here I thought Dystopia was Clown's home town !"
He was trying to be funny by saying exactly what you explained. He said I must live in a"not good place" as his idea of a joke. But do you call him out for it?
No. You're fine with it when your guys do it and only pretend it's not funny when someone else does it.
That makes you a hypocrite once again.

What you're too stupid to understand is that I turned his joke around on him by acting as though I didn't understand that he was trying to insult me and innocently suggested that to live in Dystopia I would have to be living in his home town....which would be DYSTOPIA, dumbfuck.

It's not the joke itself that's funny, dimwit.
It's that he's dumb enough to set himself up to be humiliated. That's what's funny about it.
It's that, like you, he just isn't too bright. That's what's funny.

That you need to have this spelled out for you puts you into a class of stupid beyond even that of sillydunce.
You're too stupid to understand that people are constantly laughing at your stupidity because you can't see what's glaringly obvious to everyone else.
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By RealJustme
#53791
So Clown let me get this straight, so when Sillydaddy said you live in Dystopia, you reversed it on him and said he lives in Dystopia...pure genius, now I get it, that really is funny, good one dude!
By Clownkicker
#53797
I just explained to you that it was NOT the joke itself that's funny, you moron.
The joke itself is as stupid as the one he told.

"It's not the joke itself that's funny, dimwit.
It's that he's dumb enough to set himself up to be humiliated. That's what's funny about it.
It's that, like you, he just isn't too bright. That's what's funny."


Ya spell it out for him and he's still too stupid to get it. :lol:
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By RealJustme
#53816
I just explained to you that it was NOT the joke itself that's funny, you moron.
The joke itself is as stupid as the one he told.

"It's not the joke itself that's funny, dimwit.
It's that he's dumb enough to set himself up to be humiliated. That's what's funny about it.
Clown you think at such a high level I sometimes have problems following you. So let me get this straight, Sillydaddy's attempt at a joke wasn't funny but you humiliated him by repeating the joke thus making it funny?
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By tvd
#53821
elklindo69 wrote:
tvd wrote:But these new words are a vast improvement over his standard fare of "LAMO" :lol: and :shock: .
Here's another one that will dazzle you...dyslexia!

LMAO
Yep yuo are right....I do have dyslexia. How did you figure that out? :roll: :o :? 8-) :!: :!: :!: :?: :?:
By Clownkicker
#53822
No, Tool.
The joke itself isn't funny when I tell it and it isn't funny when he tells it.

What's funny is you jump all over me for telling it and try to ridicule me for it but you give him a pass for it because you see him as being on your side.
The joke is stupid. That's the point.
That both he and you are stumped by it, that's what's funny.

I warn you. I have my limits.
I won't try to explain your stupidity to you more that five or six more times. Duuuhhhh....... :lol:
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By RealJustme
#53832
The joke itself isn't funny when I tell it and it isn't funny when he tells it.

What's funny is you jump all over me for telling it and try to ridicule me for it but you give him a pass for it because you see him as being on your side.
The joke is stupid. That's the point
I thought I had it but now you have me confused again, I still don't understand why you repeated a joke you didn't find funny. It's one thing to say something that really isn't funny, but for another person to say it's not funny and then try and use the same joke is strange, really strange, so why did you do it?

Carlos
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By tvd
#53839
johnforbes wrote:So, this dyslexic guys walks into a bra...
Oh my dog....you guys crack me up.
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