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#53787
Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23, a graduate student at UNC-Chapel Hill, his wife Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha, 21, and her sister, Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19, were all found shot to death in a condo near the campus late Tuesday afternoon. Neighbor Craig Stephen Hicks, a vehement 46-year-old self-professed atheist, surrendered to police and has been charged in the triple homicide. Cops are investigating whether the murders were a hate crime.

The man accused of killing three young members of a young Muslim family in an apartment complex near the University of North Carolina campus in Chapel Hill had hate in his heart and targeted the students because of their ethnicity, according to the devastated father of two of the victims.

Police say the triple murder of Deah Barakat, 23, his 21-year-old wife Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha and her sister, Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19, Tuesday afternoon was the climax of a long-simmering parking dispute with 46-year-old neighbor Craig Stephen Hicks.

Hicks, an avowed and vehement atheist according to his Facebook posts, appeared shackled and dressed in an orange jumpsuit during arraignment Wednesday when a judge ordered him held without bond until a court appearance March 4.

“It was execution style, a bullet in every head,” the father of the women, Dr. Mohammad Abu-Salha, told the Charlotte News and Observer Wednesday morning. “This was not a dispute over a parking space; this was a hate crime. This man had picked on my daughter and her husband a couple of times before, and he talked with them with his gun in his belt. And they were uncomfortable with him, but they did not know he would go this far.”

Yusor told her father just last week that the couple lived next door to “a hateful neighbor” who disparaged her Muslim headscarf and religious beliefs, the dad said.

“Honest to God, she said, ‘He hates us for what we are and how we look,’” he told the newspaper.

Hicks' wife, Karen Hicks, argued that the shooting was motivated by the parking spat and had nothing to do with the victims' faith.

The accused killer used his Facebook page to promote his atheistic views and demean those who embrace religion.

“I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me,” he wrote in a long rant under the Religion section of his page, where he identifies as atheist. “There’s nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of its way to insult, to judge, and to condemn me as an inadequate human being — which your religion does with self-righteous gusto. When it comes to insults, your religion started this, not me. If your religion kept its big mouth shut, so would I. But given that it doesn’t, and given the enormous harm that your religion has done in this world, I’d say that I have not only a right, but a duty, to insult it, as does every rational, thinking person on this planet. Because the moment that your religion claims any kind of jurisdiction over my experience, you insult me on a level that you can’t even begin to comprehend. Even if your beliefs had substance, the arrogance of that would be insult enough. But the fact that they have no substance, and are merely a transparent raft of delusions and lies, magnifies the insult enormously.”

Another photo, posted Jan. 20, is of a holstered .38-caliber revolver on a scale with the caption, “Yes, that is 1 pound 5.1 ounces for my loaded 38 revolver, its holster, and five extra rounds in a speedloader.”
#53813
Wow! 3 Muslims killed by an atheist....thank God he wasn't a Christian
Yep if he were a Christian Obama would have already held a press conference to apologize to the world for the hateful Christian attacks happening against innocent Muslims here in the United States. As it is it was a lowlife atheist pissed that they kept parking his parking space. You can bet the DOJ is checking his background to see if he ever attended a Church or if his parents did to try and turn this into a hate crime.
#53905
The Muslims are now demonstrating demanding swift American justice. The guy has been arrested and due process is taking place. What more do this people want?

Where was the outrage from the so called peaceful Muslims when justice was dragging it's feet with that asshole Hasan and now the other asshole Dzhokhar.
#53927
The Muslims are now demonstrating demanding swift American justice.
Muslims have become another privileged group like blacks, the more special treatment they receive, the more they will demand that be treated special to the point they can no longer wipe their own butts or their butt buddy's.
#54062
RealJustme wrote:
The Muslims are now demonstrating demanding swift American justice.
Muslims have become another privileged group like blacks, the more special treatment they receive, the more they will demand that be treated special to the point they can no longer wipe their own butts or their butt buddy's.
Some crazed gun nut white dude just shot 3 Muslims in cold blood over assigned parking spots.

And somehow you don't think that this may not be a hate crime???

DUH
#54063
RealJustme wrote:
The Muslims are now demonstrating demanding swift American justice.
Muslims have become another privileged group like blacks, the more special treatment they receive, the more they will demand that be treated special to the point they can no longer wipe their own butts or their butt buddy's.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/crimingwhilewhite
#54064
We gotta be careful here. These muzzies might have been carrying skittles and tea.
But on to the real point.....
This guy was an avowed atheist. That was clearly pointed out in the articles and links.
Using ELK logic, that would mean that all atheists are gun nuts, white, hate crime committing "lowlifes".

What we gotta watch out for then is CLOWN, who is definitely an atheist, and therefore a white gun toting lowlife.

Pass yourselves a concealed carry law, that is the only thing that will save you.....Clown's coming for you.
#54072
“I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me. There’s nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of its way to insult, to judge, and to condemn me as an inadequate human being — which your religion does with self-righteous gusto. When it comes to insults, your religion started this, not me. If your religion kept its big mouth shut, so would I. But given that it doesn’t, and given the enormous harm that your religion has done in this world, I’d say that I have not only a right, but a duty, to insult it, as does every rational, thinking person on this planet. Because the moment that your religion claims any kind of jurisdiction over my experience, you insult me on a level that you can’t even begin to comprehend. Even if your beliefs had substance, the arrogance of that would be insult enough. But the fact that they have no substance, and are merely a transparent raft of delusions and lies, magnifies the insult enormously.”

^^^^^^Every word is true.
What I want to know, is he talking about Christians or Muslims?

But not to worry, tvd. I wouldn't kill anyone who wasn't trying to kill me or someone I loved first.
I'm not "coming for" anyone. I'm actually usually walking the other way from anyone with an affiliation to any religion, if at all possible.
No good can come from them. Even the (superficially) nice ones are sitting in a smug judgment or profound pity constantly.
It's insulting.

One time a guy I worked for held us all hostage at a company lunch as he forced my wife and I to listen to his proselytizing. Afterwords I politely told him I would argue religion with him anytime he liked, but please don't drag my wife into it when she can't really say "no" to the invite. He was surprised, to say the least.

He looked at me, puzzled, and asked why I wasn't a Christian. He thought someone like me, someone he saw as a very moral person, HAD to be a Christian.
I explained to him that I had no need of, nor use for, silly superstitions about such things and that religion has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a good person. (Diplomatically phrased, of course)
He remained mystified.....but he never did it again.

tvd, you're probably much safer with me at your back than with a religious person there.
You'll always know where you stand with me, and that doesn't change because of the ridiculous whims of a psychopathic deity who NOBODY can figure out what he actually 'wants'.
One moment he's telling you to love your neighbor.
The next he's ordering you to kill your children if they swear at you. (Leviticus 20:9)(You know, Leviticus, that book religious people adamantly insist must be adhered to to justify condemning homosexuality.)
Every time I read a story about a mother drowning her kids or some such, I know she was just doing what she was told by some god or other. So who are we to say she's wrong? Who are we to question her religion?

Jesus H. Chrisis......




(And yes, I realize it was tongue in cheek, tvd.)
#54074
tvd wrote:We gotta be careful here. These muzzies might have been carrying skittles and tea.
But on to the real point.....
This guy was an avowed atheist. That was clearly pointed out in the articles and links.
Using ELK logic, that would mean that all atheists are gun nuts, white, hate crime committing "lowlifes".

What we gotta watch out for then is CLOWN, who is definitely an atheist, and therefore a white gun toting lowlife.

Pass yourselves a concealed carry law, that is the only thing that will save you.....Clown's coming for you.
The guy claimed he was an atheist. Do you believe him?

When you claim that Obama is a Muslim, do you think I believe you?

Shooting people for parking spots...in North Carolina, do you think I believe that?
Red state gun murder rate....

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