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#49335
California provides up to 75% of vegetables for the United States but a real crisis is about to end that supply. Aquifers are running dry as California becomes over populated and abuse is reverting it back to a desert and soon will look like Tijuana in more ways than one. It's a shame, it was once a beautiful State and great place to raise a family, then came liberals and their gluttonous abuse of the land and resources.
#49352
Now RealTool is blaming liberals for stopping the rain
Actually it's the liberals' gluttonous abuse of the resources which have drained the aquifers in California. California is reverting back to it's natural desert form right before our eyes and the liberals party on. Already once million dollar homes in some cities can't be sold for half their former value because the wells are running dry. Then on the other side illegals are moving in turning cities in to little Tijuanas.

California reached it's peak 40 years ago and was going down hill until 2008 when Obama turbo charged the rate of decline, now California is quickly turning into another arm pit with many of it's city already competing with Detroit for the title.
#49356
RealTool took the bait.
He's so easy it's hardly worth the time.

Since RealTool claims that diminishing aquifers are the result of the party or political philosophy running the state, then he will no doubt blame the Republicans for their management of the Ogallala aquifer that mostly lies beneath South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, and Texas.
These are all solidly conservative, Republican states.

The Ogallala provides over a quarter of the country's irrigation water and it is shrinking at an alarming and accelerating rate.
Of these states, the worst depletions have taken place in Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas.

So according to RealTool, conservative gluttonous abuse of the resources will be responsible for causing these areas to return to their natural semi-arid state when the wells run dry and he will no doubt blame conservatives when crops begin to fail in those areas over the coming decades for lack of water.
Let's all hold out breaths until his coming diatribe against conservatives for draining the Red State aquifers and fomenting the real coming crisis on the plains.

While we're waiting, someone cue up the Jeopardy theme. That might draw out johnforbes' attention to RealTool's foolishness.
#49364
RealJustme wrote:
South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, and Texas.
those States will all be going strong long after California's State language is changed to Spanish and the State dries up.
It's one thing to use ground water for farming and drinking water and it's completely different issue when it's used to frack for nat gas and oil.

Ever wonder why tech companies go to Cali instead of South Dakota...

LMAO
#49373
"those States will all be going strong long after California's State language is changed to Spanish and the State dries up."-RealTool


^^^^^^And there's your predictable partisan hypocritical response.
When liberals do it, it's a sign of incompetence and ideological failure.
When conservatives do it you couldn't care less, pretend it doesn't matter, and simply look the other way.

You ARE The Tool!
Kudos!
#49376
And there's your predictable partisan hypocritical response.
You're the one that came up with the list of States you claim have the same water shortages as California which is a lie and I pointed that out...are you trying to tell me you came up with the list of those States just because they're under adult control of Republicans?
Experts say the California water shortage has destroyed crops and sparked wildfires for three years, will only get worse. It could become a "megadrought," according to researchers at the University of Arizona and Cornell University.

"A megadrought is a drought that's just as bad, in terms of severity, just as dry as the big droughts of the 20th Century, so think 1930s Dust Bowl, think 1950s drought, but much longer lasting," Toby Ault, a professor at Cornell University, told KABC in Los Angeles.

He stressed the importance of conserving water.

"I think we'd really have to change the way we think about water and the way that we can use water because right now we're on a path of water use that's unsustainable," Ault said.

The drought crisis in California is so bad that some residents are now stealing water out of fire hydrants.thieves, one of whom even left a hose attached. The thefts come at a time of extreme drought in the Golden State, meaning cities have become extremely strict with water usage--even imposing fines on households that exceed limits.

Groundwater now accounts for 60 percent of the state's water use and those pockets of water are running dry as California increases it's need for water every year. The pumping has been so great in recent years that wells are running dry and the land is actually falling as water-drained soil is compressed. That in turn has led to billions of dollars in damage to roads, aqueducts, canals and pipelines. There are no solutions in sight and many are leaving California while their properties still have value all at a time when California needs their tax dollars, just to pay public retirees and other benefits; never mind it's other obligations. Some blame global warming, other point out California is a natural desert, it's not that it's raining or snowing less, it's that the groundwater is running out. One must ask, how could intelligent people not see this coming?
#49411
"You're the one that came up with the list of States you claim have the same water shortages as California..."-RealTool

No, I never said they have the "same water shortages" as California. Sprechen Sie Englisch?

I said they were doing the same thing with their aquifers as 'liberals' in California, and said they will be facing the same problems as California. They're over-pumping, the aquifers are being depleted, and when they lose rainfall in the future, as they will, they won't have enough water for crops.

"...are you trying to tell me you came up with the list of those States just because they're under adult control of Republicans?"-RealTool

No, I came up with that list because they happen to be sitting atop the diminishing Ogallala aquifer, you moron.

We are talking about bad water management policies and how the Party overseeing them are supposedly responsible for the water shortages of the future.
You say these policies are bad in California but just fine in Republican controlled areas.
That's because you're The Tool.
#49414
No, I never said they have the "same water shortages" as California. Sprechen Sie Englisch?

I said they were doing the same thing with their aquifers as 'liberals' in California, and said they will be facing the same problems as California. They're over-pumping, the aquifers are being depleted, and when they lose rainfall in the future, as they will, they won't have enough water for crops.
They get less than 10% of their needed water from aquifers, California needs 60% and growing from their aquifers, the ground is actually starting to compress and sink in many areas of California and instead of addressing the coming disaster they're spending billions on a high speed rail to Vegas and now $30 million to relocate birds nesting on a bridge that needs to be torn down...at a cost of $40,000.00 a bird. When you have a State run by liberals they run it with fairy dust and rainbows, California is doomed to bad times (worse than it already is)

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Efforts to relocate protected birds so the old eastern span of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge can be torn down could cost the state more than $30 million, a newspaper said Monday.





Transportation officials are trying to move hundreds of double-crested cormorants and other birds that nest in the 10,000-foot-long steel structure, the San Francisco Chronicle (http://bit.ly/10ehXPU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) reported.

The California Department of Transportation wants to adhere to restrictive requirements of the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act and the California Fish and Game code, spokeswoman Leah Robinson-Leach said.

"There are penalties if we don't," Robinson-Leach said.

Officials have spent $709,000 to build nesting "condos" to lure the birds to the underside of a new eastern span, the newspaper reported. Another $1 million was spent trying to lure them with bird decoys, cormorant recordings and nests made from discarded Christmas wreaths.

Officials also have installed nets over the old eastern span to keep birds away.But the birds haven't moved and more are arriving to roost. Consultants found 533 cormorant nests on the old bridge this year, double the number found three years ago, according to the Chronicle.

Transportation officials estimate the agencies could need an additional $17.1 million to deal with the bird problem, according to the Chronicle. And it could cost another $12.5 million to speed up demolition ahead of next spring's nesting season because the work must stop once the birds start laying eggs
#49416
"They get less than 10% of their needed water from aquifers,..."-RealTool

Are you going to provide some evidence for that one? :lol:

No, I didn't think so.

"The California Department of Transportation wants to adhere to restrictive requirements of the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act "

So now RealTool holds 'liberals' in California responsible for adhering to Federal Law.
You mean they have a choice?
That's what conservatives believe? :lol:
#49422
The California Department of Transportation wants to adhere to restrictive requirements of the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act "

So now RealTool holds 'liberals' in California responsible for adhering to Federal Law.
I thought it would be Elk who bit on the one but it was Clown. :roll:
The Migratory Bird Act is a treaty originally signed between the United States and Great Britain (acting on behalf of Canada) in 1918 for the purpose of ending the extensive commercial trade in feathers.
It's a real gut-buster that politicians in California are using the 1918 bird feather treaty as an excuse to spend $40,000 a bird to relocate them costing Californians millions they don't have. It's even more telling that Clown invokes the feather treaty to support those politicians.
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