Political discussions about everything
User avatar
By RealJustme
#40949
The government has failed at government provided health care, dumping money on health care problems without adult leadership and accountability has failed. A blank check can't fix everything, especially when you have so many greedy corrupt people determining where the money goes. Actual care to the Vet's is the last priority, just as education to children is the last priority in public schools.

Privatization, accountability, demands for performance and cost controls will be the new buzz words after the 2016 elections. Time to undo the damages.
By sillydaddy
#40958
YES! it's long over due.

It took Obama 3 weeks to respond to the VA hospital scandal.......but it took him less than 24 hours to respond to the news that blacks had been offended by remarks Donald Sterling made in the privacy of his own home.

George Rodriguez, Texas state coordinator for the Tea Party puts it this way, in part:

"With his usual dramatic face........"I will not tolerate!".......Obama's comments made for good theater, but that's all it is.
We all remember Senator Obama, as a member of the Veterans Affairs Committee, made the VA hospitals part of his campaign for president. Just another broken promise.

Firing Shinseki, or passing some Bill is not going to fix the problem.
The VA hospitals are a mess because they are government operated. The VA is a bureaucracy with a secured civil service workforce that can hardly be disciplined let alone fired. They are not concerned with production but rather with expanding and maintaining their federal budget. These factors have caused problems at the VA long before Obama and GW.
The problem is government provided healthcare . This is what happens when government bureaucracies take over an industry. They exist for their own sake.....not for the service intended. and once created they are hard to kill or change.
The other part of the problem is that Obama and the Demos believe in government provided health care.

Nancy Pelosi once famously said of Obamacare that we needed to pass it to find out what was in it.
Not true.
All we have to do is look at the VA hospitals to anticipate the massive problems that are coming down the road with Obamacare.
The VA medical system should be abolish,.... let the private sector provide medical care and we should also repeal Obamacare before it's too late."
By johnforbes
#40975
There have been articles for years relating to the nationalized health systems in Canada and the UK.

Long waits, rationed care, poor care...these are just what socialized medicine brings.

In the 1970s, vets knew to avoid the VA unless they simply had no other choice.
User avatar
By RealJustme
#40983
A prisoner sentenced to death receives faster and better health care than our Vets, prisons actually use civilian medical care, not government because it would be considered inhumane treatment to subject a prisoner to government style medical care Vet's receive. That's the truth.
User avatar
By RealJustme
#40991
What is the wait time for a terrorist at Gitmo to receive medical care?
Good point, imagine the uproar among liberals if a terrorist in Gitmo had to wait for months to be seen for a medical condition like many of our Vets. Imagine the uproar if they had to wait for hours! Obama would take immediate action, heads would roll, he wouldn't say "I'm outraged if it turns out to be true, but lets give the system a chance to look into it before we jump to conclusions".
By Clownkicker
#40995
"What is the wait time for a terrorist at Gitmo to receive medical care?
Nothing.
There is no wait time at Gitmo -- no waiting list at all."-johnforbes

Someone you're incarcerating for a decade without any charges or trial had BETTER be getting medical care.
And it's just "government health care" anyway, which you claim is terrible, so what so you care?

What's wrong with you inhumane clowns?
By sillydaddy
#40997
Clown......First of all..fuck all those assholes locked up at Gitmo, America doesn't owe them shit.

The real inhumanity is that Vets have died waiting to get a first appointment to get a diagnosis, never mind treatment.
User avatar
By RealJustme
#41163
More information released today, apparently leaders in the VA were told they had to "report" veterans were receiving care within two weeks to avoid embarrassing the President who frequently used those numbers in his speeches. Everything that stinks in the government leads right back to hollow chocolate bunny with his feet up on the desk and his hand appointed Czars.
User avatar
By RealJustme
#41201
Obama needs to step down. What he's doing to our Vets and our active duty military members if criminal. The only vet he cares about is one who defected to the Taliban.
By johnforbes
#41210
Obama is the most radical president ever.

He ran against gay marriage, but now -- facing no future election -- he is for gay marriage.

On issue after issue, Obama has been dishonest. Does anybody have a doubt that the IRS special scrutiny of the Tea Party was orchestrated from the White House?

It is now beyond dispute that the lies told about Benghazi were for campaign reasons.
By snakeoil
#41214
No to privatization of government responsibilities. I was in NE Pennsylvania for the last few days and I read about the big RE developer being sentanced in the "Kash For Kids" scandel in that area. It seems that a private company built a youth detention facility and was paid by the state for every youth sent to the facilty. Whenever money is involved people get greedy. The developer paid 2 judges (now serving time) $2.5 million to send scores of kids to the facility for even the most minor of infractions. Naturally, the rich developer only got one year in a minimum detention facility and a $250,000 fine. Meanwhile, scores of kids had their lives ruined and their families were forced to suffer the loss of the family reputation.

Bottom Line...I am against the government privatizing their responcibilities.
By snakeoil
#41215
I have a few other thoughts on that "Kash For Kids" scandal.

1. 25% of the people incarcerated in the world are in US prisons.

2. I am against the government paying private corporations to administer their corrections responsibilities. Corrections Corporation of America is a huge corporation whose stock is sold on the stock exchange.

3. I have read of several cases of abuse by private corrections firms and there are many lawsuites filed by abused prisoners. (I'm not sure if the state is liable for those damages.)
User avatar
By RealJustme
#41223
3. I have read of several cases of abuse by private corrections firms and there are many lawsuites filed by abused prisoners.
I assure you private companies are more responsive, act with higher ethics and are more accountable than any government agency outside of the Military. Look at the VA hospitals for example, if any civilian would have done what they did, arrests would have been made and the hospital would be have been sued out of business. Contract ran detention facilities are ran much better and at lower costs than government ran facilities, that's because the
contract ran facilities are held accountable.
By snakeoil
#41225
(NaturalNews) According to "Dead By Mistake," a report detailing the findings of an investigation by the Hearst Corporation, approximately 200,000 people die in the United States every year from hospital infections and preventable medical errors. To make matters worse, the situation has not changed from 10 years ago, when the recommendations of a similar report by the federal government went ignored.
http://www.naturalnews.com/028274_hospi ... error.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Those held at YSI facilities across the country have frequently faced beatings, neglect, sexual abuse and unsanitary food over the past two decades, according to a HuffPost investigation that included interviews with 14 former employees and a review of thousands of pages of state audits, lawsuits, local police reports and probes by state and federal agencies. Out of more than 300 institutions surveyed, a YSI detention center in Georgia had the highest rate of youth alleging sexual assaults in the country, according to a recent report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/ ... s_20131022#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

State lawmakers who embraced private prisons as a cost-cutting measure are starting to have trouble ignoring their abysmal conditions. Corrections Corporation of America, the largest and most powerful private prison company in the nation, lost four prison contracts in the past month after extensive reports of abuse, neglect, and even fraud within their operations.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/0 ... one-month/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A major U.S. private prison operator known for inmate abuse, violations, and disregard for the truth reported a 56-percent spike in profit in the first quarter of 2013, due in part to its new strategy for drastically reducing its taxes, the Associated Press reports. During a conference call touting its success, representatives at GEO Group boasted that the company continues to have “solid occupancy rates in mid to high 90s” and that they are optimistic “regarding the outlook for the industry,” in part due to a “growing offender population.” GEO Senior Vice President John Hurley assured investors during the call:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/0 ... population" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
After years of widespread violence and sexual abuse at Mississippi's for-profit prison for juvenile offenders, state officials and civil rights groups signed a federal court decree in March aimed at overhauling a facility described by a federal judge as "a cesspool of unconstitutional and inhuman acts."

U.S. Justice Department investigators found that both state officials and the GEO Group Inc., the nation's second-largest operator of private prisons, had essentially ignored the safety of youth prisoners, denying them basic health care and employing guards with known gang affiliations. Sexual misconduct between staff and inmates at the Walnut Grove youth prison was "among the worst we have seen in any facility anywhere in the nation," the Justice Department's investigation concluded.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/1 ... 98293.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A publicly traded company that runs private prison facilities across the country is again facing accusations of human rights abuses against inmates in its facilities.

Immigrants at a Washington State detention center run by the GEO Group, Inc. are being held in conditions that violate both international and U.S. law, says a new report released by the Seattle University School of Law and the human rights group OneAmerica.

The report concludes that immigrants at the Northwest Detention Facility, including refugees and asylum seekers, are being held in "an atmosphere of intimidation" which includes verbal abuse, sexual harassment, strip searches, and poor to non-existent mental and physical health care.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5466166&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
By RealJustme
#41237
A publicly traded company that runs private prison facilities across the country is again facing accusations of human rights abuses against inmates in its facilities.

Immigrants at a Washington State detention center run by the GEO Group, Inc. are being held in conditions that violate both international and U.S. law, says a new report released by the Seattle University School of Law and the human rights group OneAmerica.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Stick their asses in a State or Federal prison where they'll be turned into bitches, beat daily and be forced to give their food to their owners...then they'll have something to complain about. :lol: :lol: :lol: We don't owe illegals anything but we should be transporting them back to their country's borders and turning them lose.
Big Beautiful Ballroom

Johnnie.... So it cost 400 MILLION DOLLARS […]

I hear the jury found the guy not guilty. Apparent[…]

Is there a bigger cuck piece of shit?

Green Energy

You Clean energy guys shot yourself in the foot, w[…]

Secret Slut

When I was dating my wife I discovered she had an […]

Red state gun murder rate....

So that's when Sparkles was recruited as a traitor[…]

Farewell Tour

Superb thread. When the history of the early days[…]

Exposing wife in phoenix

Any interested voyeurs. We are looking to expose[…]