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#35671
WASHINGTON — Embattled Rep. Trey Radel of Florida resigned Monday, a little more than two months after pleading guilty to misdemeanor cocaine possession.

Radel, 37, a Republican from Fort Myers, submitted a resignation letter to House Speaker John Boehner that took effect at 6:30 p.m.

"Unfortunately, some of my struggles had serious consequences," Radel said in his letter to Boehner. "While I have dealt with those issues on a personal level, it is my belief that professionally I cannot fully and effectively serve as a United States representative to the place I love and call home, Southwest Florida.

Radel, who was facing an ethics investigation, sent shorter resignation letters to Republican Gov. Rick Scott and Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner. They will have to coordinate a special primary and general election to choose the next person to represent Florida's 19th District. A date has not been set.

STORY: Radel takes leave of absence after cocaine charge

"I believe that Trey is making the right decision for him and his family," Scott said in a statement. "I'm glad that he has sought help, and it's my hope he continues to put his attention on rehabilitation and his family."

A former conservative radio show host, Radel was caught buying $250 worth of cocaine on Oct. 29 at a Washington restaurant from an undercover federal law enforcement officer. He blamed alcohol abuse and returned to Capitol Hill this month after 28 days at a Naples, Fla., treatment center.

Radel's office will remain open to handle constituent issues but will be managed by the clerk of the House until Radel's successor is elected and sworn in, according to Radel's chief of staff, Dave Natonski.

Radel is believed to be the first sitting member of Congress charged with cocaine possession.

In an interview this month, he sounded optimistic he could overcome his troubles and continue to represent his Southwest Florida district.

"This is something I will continue to work on the rest of my life," he told reporters at the time. "I will take it one day at a time and, in doing so, I hope to rebuild and regain trust."...................................................
#35688
Pretty much everyone in congress, especially those affiliated with the Tea Party, needs to be stoned. And I mean with actual stones and not the condition that arises from smoking marijuana, a creation of the conservatives' God.
#35707
"America became great with high freedom, low taxes, high capitalism, no socialism."-johnforbes

As with most of your idiotic truisms, this one is seriously out of touch with American history.
"High Capitalism" ignores such important contributions to America's greatness as the great bridges and railroads built because of socialism.
Capitalism didn't get them built. It was not until the Federal government socialized the enterprise and gave away land and rights of way without cost and allowed incorporation of companies with monopolies on routes that such things that made America great were achieved.
There's the electrical grid the Government forced to be built out to every part of the country, not just the parts that were profitable at the time. And the telephone system built by socialist granted monopoly and regulation.
Then there's the National Parks System, TVA, and the great interstate highway system that still feeds and clothes this country. All did what capitalism couldn't or wouldn't and all indisputably played a part in making America great.

And what about the army, johnforbes, one of the biggest socialist entities we have?
It played a huge part in making America great.
And FDIC insurance that helped make our banking system great.

Then there are socialist entities such as the fire departments. Before they were socialized, the private capitalist fire departments would let a building they were standing beside burn to the ground while they watched because the owner hadn't subscribed. These fires would sometimes spread to entire neighborhoods. That's what your "high capitalism" will always end up like. Everyone is safer when all fires are controlled and extinguished.
There are our socialist police forces. Private police forces were a travesty of thuggery and injustice. It was government police forces that brought about safer cities, equal enforcement, and due process for all.

The joke is, all you conservatives who believe you hate socialism wouldn't give up a single one of these things and will, in your next breath, pretend to greatly respect the men and women who serve in some of our largest socialist programs.
#35765
If capitalism is so horrible and whatever form of collectivism you choose to champion is so wonderful, then please point out where in the world communism/socialism/liberalism has been a howling success. The former Soviet Union? Cuba? North Korea? East Berlin where they had to build a wall around half the city to keep all those envious westerners out of the workers paradise?
Go hit the bong again you delusional junkie. And for what it's worth, you have succeeded in changing my views about legalizing drugs. I now think all drugs should be provided free of charge and in whatever quantities the drug user desires in order to quickly remove their defective DNA from the gene pool.
Man up you sissy bitch and stop skin popping your heroin. Stick the needle in a vein like a real man like Keith Moon, John Belushi, Jimi Hendrix or Mitch Hedburg etc, etc etc.
#35776
"If capitalism is so horrible and whatever form of collectivism you choose to champion is so wonderful, then please point out where in the world communism/socialism/liberalism has been a howling success."-Insipid

I just did, you dumb fuck.
Read my post before you comment on what you pretend I 'said'.
And I never said capitalism is "horrible". I simply told you what it would do if left to its own devices.
I just listed you a dozen socialist and liberal things that made this country great.
Notice our loudmouth, educated, superior johnforbes doesn't have a thing to say about it either.
He's caught with his pants around his ankles and he slinks off hoping no one will notice.

"Go hit the bong again you delusional junkie. And for what it's worth, you have succeeded in changing my views about legalizing drugs.
Man up you sissy bitch and stop skin popping your heroin. Stick the needle in a vein like a real man like Keith Moon, John Belushi, Jimi Hendrix or Mitch Hedburg etc, etc etc."-Insipid

By the way, I would give odds that I use far less and far fewer drugs than you do.
I would give even money that I use less and fewer drugs than johnforbes.
And for what it's worth, I have no doubt that you and those around you would benefit greatly if you would consume marijuana instead of the alcohol you swill down.

I give you a list of socialist programs that made this country great that you and johnforbes can't debate or dispute.
You come back with nothing but a bunch of stamping of your feet and whining because, like johnforbes, you've got nothing besides a loud mouth. You epitomize the useless reactionary scum that have nothing of value to add to our world.
#35802
johnny, you're clearly lying when you say you don't read my posts.
You lift phrases from them in your failed put down responses, you moron.
You don't reply to what I said because you can't reply to what I said, since you know that what I said was indisputably true and makes you look like the fool you are.

Of course, if you mean you don't read my posts with any comprehension, then I agree with you.
#35803
WASHINGTON — Embattled Rep. Trey Radel of Florida resigned Monday, a little more than two months after pleading guilty to misdemeanor cocaine possession.
Why did he resign? Obama bragged of using cocaine in his books, if the President of the United States doesn't have to resign why should any politician or citizen be held to a higher standard?
#35804
"Why did he resign?"-RealTool

Maybe Radel resigned because he has a drug problem and can't do his job.
Maybe Radel resigned because his wife threatened to leave him if he kept on the destructive path he was traveling. (I mean politics, not drugs)
Maybe Radel resigned because he realizes he's unfit for public office.
Maybe Radel resigned because he's the first Republican in three decades to have some iota of shame.... :lol:
Maybe Radel couldn't face being as bad as G.W. Bush who was busted for the same thing but dishonestly had the record expunged and held many offices anyway. (Most Republicans are fine with drug use unless it's someone else doing them. Then they are outraged.)
Maybe Radel resigned because he realized he's just a douche bag and he's tired of being a douche bag. (You should consider that one, RealTool)

I'm going with: he "wants to spend more time with his family."
#35805
Maybe Radel resigned because he has a drug problem and can't do his job.
Maybe Radel resigned because his wife threatened to leave him if he kept on the destructive path he was traveling. (I mean politics, not drugs)
Maybe Radel resigned because he realizes he's unfit for public office.
Maybe Radel resigned because he's the first Republican in three decades to have some iota of shame.... :lol:
Maybe Radel couldn't face being as bad as G.W. Bush who was busted for the same thing but dishonestly had the record expunged and held many offices anyway. (Most Republicans are fine with drug use unless it's someone else doing them. Then they are outraged.)
Maybe Radel resigned because he realized he's just a douche bag and he's tired of being a douche bag. (You should consider that one, RealTool)
So why doesn't Obama resign?
#35836
As part of my overall charitable nature, I read one sentence of one of Clownhicker's postings (supra).

In it, Clownhicker envisions the Army as socialist, which reveals -- yet again -- the abysmal depth of Clownhicker's genuinely remarkable stupidity.
#35862
RealJustme wrote:
WASHINGTON — Embattled Rep. Trey Radel of Florida resigned Monday, a little more than two months after pleading guilty to misdemeanor cocaine possession.
Why did he resign? Obama bragged of using cocaine in his books, if the President of the United States doesn't have to resign why should any politician or citizen be held to a higher standard?
Radel is a hardcore cokehead.

Obama experimented in college.

So you want all politicians to resign because they experimented with drugs in college?

LMAO
#35864
Radel is a hardcore cokehead.

Obama experimented in college.

So you want all politicians to resign because they experimented with drugs in college?
It's illegal, in fact hard drugs is a felony, Obama committed a felony that he bragged of. Obama wouldn't have been allowed to enter the military as a Private with his drug use, don't you think Obama should be held to at least the same standards privates in the military are held to? After he his the Commander and Chief of the military. I have no respect for the man.
#35923
RealJustme wrote:
Radel is a hardcore cokehead.

Obama experimented in college.

So you want all politicians to resign because they experimented with drugs in college?
It's illegal, in fact hard drugs is a felony, Obama committed a felony that he bragged...
You lie. He never said how much he had in possession.

BTW....Radel pleaded guilty for misdemeanor posession of coke, and he'll end in rehab, which is appropiate.

Obama or any college student who experimented with drugs is one thing, an elected official should know better..........
#35931
You lie. He never said how much he had in possession.
Obama admitted to using hard drugs in fact he bragged in his books about it. Just because he didn't document how much drugs he had in his possession doesn't mean I lied about repeating what he said in his books. Are you saying Obama lied about using the drugs?
#35944
RealJustme wrote:
You lie. He never said how much he had in possession.
Obama admitted to using hard drugs in fact he bragged in his books about it. Just because he didn't document how much drugs he had in his possession doesn't mean I lied about repeating what he said in his books. Are you saying Obama lied about using the drugs?
LMAO

Are you trying to put words in my mouth?

You claimed he was a felon not me. Accusing someone of a felony is serious. A felony is a serious crime, murder, rape, kidnapping, etc. And you need to be in possession of a certain amount to become a felon, correct?

Bush did coke, Clinton did weed, Obama did shit as well and nobody denies that, it's old news.

So where does it say that he had a particular amount of substance?
#35958
Obama in his two books (one of them probably ghostwritten given its flowery style) discussed using beer and pot and crack.

The terms he used were "heavily" and "enthusiastically" and he probably did so for the reason that he didn't want to fence himself in on some legal matter like that.

But what else could Obama do after wasting his teen years on alcohol and pot, but still wanting to engage in a race-baiting political career?

He had to try to seize the moral high ground by himself admitting that he had abused illegal drugs and alcohol, thus casting himself as a victim of an addictive personality.

Even as president, Obama was still smoking cigs, and the White House was very careful not to claim he had quit entirely lest he be photographed smoking.

Obama's father was a hopeless booze addict, so likely Obama inherited some degree of addictive personality.

It is very well known that Irish people have alcohol addiction problems, which is why I don't drink. Why take the risk of destroying your life?

Did Obama offend to the point of felony in Hawaii? It wouldn't be surprising, but there would be no present evidence or any testimony, and anybody who prosecuted Obama for anything would instantly be accused of white racism.
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