[elklindo69]

Stage 1: denial

Stage 2: it disagrees with the bible

Stage 3: yeah...we knew about it all along...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYMD0oS ... pp=desktop

[johnforbes]

But "denial" suggests that man-caused global warming is the reality, and that only these delusional people inexplicably dissent from that.

Thus, the thread title is egocentric -- it presumes Democrats are possessed of The Truth.

In reality, the entire history of science and math -- from Euclid at the peak, from monarch Newton -- consists of episodes in which The Establishment was certain it was correct.

But it was wrong, or incomplete.

It is vain of Gore, a C student who dropped out of divinity school (which he entered to get an early out from the Army) and flunked out of law school, to assume he know The Truth.

[RealJustme]

Al Gore "People think about geothermal energy - when they think about it at all - in terms of the hot water bubbling up in some places, but two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, 'cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot …”

Idiots!

[RealJustme]

We all support rational measures to protect and improve our environment, but it makes no sense at all to back expensive programs that divert resources from "real needs" and are based on alarming claims of man made global warming based upon untenable claims of "incontrovertible" evidence. Climate alarmist either have a mental illness, they're naïve, or they have a financial motive

[BilboBagend]

All climate denial proves is the low level of function and honesty in the deniers. That is the sum total. So very sad. It's no surprise that most of them are Republicans, teagaggers, birthers, racists, etc.

[johnforbes]

Will Bilbo and Elkin post their own scientific credentials?

No, they won't because they have none.

The word "denial" suggests that man-caused global warming is the reality, and that only these delusional people inexplicably dissent from that.

Thus, the thread title is egocentric -- it presumes Democrats are possessed of The Truth.

In reality, the entire history of science and math -- from Euclid at the peak, from monarch Newton -- consists of episodes in which The Establishment was certain it was correct.

But it was wrong, or incomplete.

It is vain of Gore, a C student who dropped out of divinity school (which he entered to get an early out from the Army) and flunked out of law school, to assume he know The Truth.

[BilboBagend]

"reality", as used by little wannabe faux. More bullshit.

Sorry, science makes an assumption about the philosophical term "reality". It assumes the objective physical world is real, physical, and objectively observable. Then it makes observations of that assumed physical reality, makes models, makes predictions based on those models, compares the predictions to the objective observations, modifies the modesl to fix the observations, iterates, discusses, tests, and moves to finer and finer details.

Science has no legitimate statement about any alternate realities not covered by the assumed phjysical and objectively observable reality.

On a purely philosophical level, there is only one philosophical certainty. "I think, therefor I am". The rest is conjecture.

Most scientists are totally unaware of any philosophical nature to science. They are imbedded in the purely physical assumptions of the philosophy of science. The assumption of the physical reality as a reality. The existence of an objectively observable universe with "simple" deductible rules. Observations, models, predictions, testing. It seems to work very well.

"Denier Science" is outside these assumptions and methodologies. Just as science can not legitimately say anything about alternate non-physical realities. The alternate realities of "denier science" can not be used to counter science. To counter science, one must use the methods of science and the assumptions of an objectively observable universe.

Now, I must admit, when I use the word delusions I am referring to the arguments about physical reality that are bas3ed outside the realm of science, the physical world, objectivity, rationality, logic, and any physically testable reality. In your non-physical, non-objective world they may have some reality.

[RealJustme]

Science has no legitimate statement about any alternate realities not covered by the assumed phjysical and objectively observable reality.

Good to see your opening you mind Bible, rather than continuing to drink the Gore koolaid. Better late than never. Lots of other people fell for the hoax, so don't feel to bad about it.

[johnforbes]

But neither Bilbo nor Elkin posted their credentials in climate science.

If they really have some credentials in that field, they'll be delighted to post a link to where people may view them.

But they have no such credentials.

[BilboBagend]

Aw, wittle wannabe faux continues to cred troll.

How pathetic he must be.

[johnforbes]

Bilbo, you've been invited many times to view my credentials.

But you can't do that because you would have to reveal your own first, and you have none.

[BilboBagend]

It's your disingenuous wittle wannabe faux cred troll. It's your cred anxiety, not mine.

Go ahead. Post all your creds here. Name, address, business address, phone numbers, birth certificate (original long form with original state seal whether is was used or not at the time of your birth), grade school graduation certificate (if you graduated).

No one has stopped you from doing the logical, honest first step in your cred trolling.

I will check the validity of your purported creds. Really, I will.

[elklindo69]

Bilbo, you've been invited many times to view my credentials.

But you can't do that because you would have to reveal your own first, and you have none.

Post a link to your linkedin account.

Other than that STFU....

[RealJustme]

Post a link to your linkedin account.

Elk if you had been paying attention you would already have his linkedin account. He is who he says he is and his creds are unquestionably among the best that have ever graced this board. Get over it.

Carlos

[BilboBagend]

A linkedin account proves identity and creds?

Wow.

I guess Santa is really real.

[johnforbes]

Elkin, you seem like a fairly amiable, but not very bright, young chap.

Of course, a kid like you wouldn't shut me up in any scenario, cybernetic or real.

If either Elkin or Bilbo had any serious credentials of their own, they would have long ago accepted my offer.

But Elkin and Bilbo are silly kids on the Internet, so they can't.