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#30908
The polls giveth and the polls taketh away.

After years of false narratives, misstated data and a remarkably successful campaign to poison the Affordable Care Act in the hearts and minds of the American public, Republicans have finally run into the one force that could improve the perception of healthcare reform in the eyes of the people….

Themselves.

Immediately prior to the shutdown, only 31 percent of Americans believed Obamacare was a good idea. Today, that number is 38 percent, just one percentage point lower than the peak approval number of forty percent that was achieved in July 2012.

The poll could explain why Senator Mike Lee (R-UT)—one of the two leaders of the movement to use the defunding of Obamacare as the mechanism to hold the government hostage—has, according to uber-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, declared that his party is now “past” Obamacare and has “moved on” to different issues to argue over in the battle to re-open our government.

Who can blame the Senator for wanting to “move on”? When you’ve got a sure-fire loser—and the Cruz/Lee strategy (if there ever was one) is now provably a sure-fire loser—why not attempt to move the goalposts and see if you can get a few people back on your side?
#30924
Just because 38% of Americans think Obamacare is a good idea.....does not make it a good idea. I feel Obamacare is going to drive the best doctors we have into other fields.......Obama calls it."affordable healthcare". I call it second rate healthcare. You can not lower the cost of healthcare without affecting the quality. Obamacare is going to invite more corruption in the insurance and health fields than we have now. We need a healthcare plan that does not sacrifice quality.......then you will have more than 38% of Americans supporting it.
#30927
Any poll depends on sample size and the mood du jour.

The other day, there was a big article in WSJ about the national mood and the sample was 800 people.

800 people in the sample; 330 million in the country.

And the national mood can change quite suddenly.

The point with Obamacare is this: It did NOT spring from national approval, but was rammed through on a purely partisan basis because Pelosi, Reid, and Obama were all hard-Left and decided to push their agenda.

Nobody read the mess, which was not discussed on C-Span as Obama promised, but written in complete secrecy.
#30945
the little wannabe faux thinks that Obamacare was "rammed down the peoples throat". Uh, by a majority. While he believes that is correct to repeal it because 20-30 extortionists want it repealed. He is also, obviously, against the simple majority vote on a clean CR, because the 20-30 extortionists in Congress won't get their way. Yet, a 2/3rds majority of the American people want Obamacare or even better single payer universal health care. (reference to 2/3rds majority wants Obamacare or better, the survey which teagaggers use to say 54% don't want Obamacare where they ascribe those who want better as not wanting Obamacare creating a bold faced lie.)
#30992
Any poll depends on sample size and the mood of the moment.

The other day, there was a big article in WSJ about the national mood and the sample was 800 people. 800 people in the sample; 330 million in the country.

And the national mood can change quite suddenly.

The point with Obamacare is this: It did NOT spring from national approval, but was rammed through on a purely partisan basis because Pelosi, Reid, and Obama were all hard-Left and decided to push their agenda.

Nobody read the mess, which was not discussed on C-Span as Obama promised, but written in complete secrecy.
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