[Riesen]

This is the only site I know of where they actively remove content so that there aren't professionals mixed in with amateurs and remove photos that are already all over the net and stolen in most cases.

I have reported a few of the contributions myself, and always found that they were taken care of within a few days or so. As was the case with many of the above photos that the posts talk about. I gave them links to pro models and they were removed immediately.

Why not use the system the way it's intended? I don't have an issue with it. Instead all you do is constantly complain and complain. Posting in a random COFF thread and expecting someone to see it? I don't even like viewing the forums anymore cause I constantly have to see this.

Kiki must be a saint, I mean, she leaves this thread up even though it's constantly bumped. It's funny, on other sites this transparency wouldn't be allowed, instead she lets you guys say whatever you want that's negative about VoyeurWeb. She doesn't censor you at all! Her responses are always "Go ahead, it will just help us improve." Igor left, he's gone, but people are trying to help get this site in shape. Help them! Don't just complain. Provide irrefutable proof. It looks like a bunch of the girls you were complaining about are already gone. Fubushaba's gone, Snieff, Vicky but still, just keep complaining over and over. Don't use the correct channels, just bash, cause that's all you want to come here for.

I am hoping that you are all just trying to help here although if that were the case you would think you would just report the photos like the rest of us.

[Nick2009]

Still wonder about the voting system ...

People (webmasters!!!), you have to work on a new voting system. This system strange.. Just think ...

You write VW have more than 2.5 million unique visitors per day. I Mean major rating of any contribution is formed throughout the day by minimum 1000000 unique votes. Even 1 million votes can form a stable rating.

Then how can it be that next days the rating of many contributions falling fast?? If the first few days contri has 4.7 rating for example, then it fall to 4.65 or lower by the day? It is very difficult to downgrade after a million votes... Accuracy is small - about plus or minus 0.02.

You write that your administrator removes bad and good votes ... But It looks as your admin doing it by his preferences .... He reduces the good votes of many contributions and down rating by hand. Wonderful contributions have many positive comments, but their ratings rapidly falling .... And old members too (who have sooooooooooooooo many fans). Not strange???
In this case, many suspicious contributions have stable rating ... SOOOOOOOOOOOO strange. It was never before....

Before this never happened. Now when I look at the rating list head is spinning. This is like "Old sexy monster Voyeurweb" losing its position in the global sex ocean ...

You have to do something ...

Nicole with love

[Ormi]

Hello Everybody,
I tried to read all of the comments and I agree with a lot of things you have written. I don't like this new scoring system. I can only speak about my contris and ratings but interesting thing are happening and had happened befor.
Thanks to Vienna trying to manage our situation.
I agree with Nicole that it's not fair if somebody shares pictures about more modells. I agree that there are a lot of pros and cheaters whom vw would have to delete.
I don't understand this new scoring system. All of my and for example Vienna's ratings are much more lower ever than they was before.
Last month my rating has been over 4,6.. for 2 days, it hasn't been changed just a bit up and down. Last day of march at 11 pm cet suddenly it started to fall and it reduced to 4,58 in 2 hours. Hmmm, I don't think it was an accident. This month my rating was 4,6 and then it started to go up and in a few hours it became 4,65 and it stagnated a bit and after that it started to fall and now it is only 4,59 and it has been reduced in 3 days slowly, so I don't think it's normal. I cannot believe that nobody likes the pics in the last 3 days. I really don't understand. My rating reduces continuously, why?
You should do something. And it's not about the money, okay, it's an important thing but not the most important, the most important thing would be to have clear competitions. It should be about the joy and fun sharing pics wih others not always about the ratings and problems. I feel that my enthusiasm reduced because of the chaters and cheating. I know it's difficult to exclude cheaters who uses programs to vote, anyone can find those programs who is a bit interested in programming but you must manage it because the manual override is not enough and the automated script doesn't work well. I'm very dissapointed now.
I don't want to look being self-confident, I'm really not, but I think that my current contri is good enough and it isn't comparable with the current 3rd contri which pictures are awfully photoshopped, I'm sure she will overtake me or rather my rating will be reduced.
Sorry for being long but I'm really dissappointed. What do you think?
Kiss and have a nice day,
Ormi

[VWSupport]

Nicole, Please note that administrators do not change votes, only our users have the power to decide who gets to win through majority rules. In fact the administrators do not have any capability to change the votes, the only way votes get changed is done by an automated programming script which seeks out fraudulent votes, therefore there is ZERO possibility of bias, as scripts don't know who anyone is or care, they just have a job to seek out cheaters who try to manipulate the voting system.

Omri, Looking at your contri right now I see that it is a 4.6, so you will notice that there is natural up and down fluctuation which is normal for voting, we don't have any control over how people vote, all we can do is ensure that there are the very minimal amounts of voting fraud. If you have any advice or suggestions, please feel free to email me!

We do everything we can to prevent voting issues and we disqualify several people each month who are found to be cheaters or professionals, if you ever find there to be professionals on the site just click on the "Report This Contribution" link on the specific contribution's page and include all information with clear proof as to why you are reporting it, including URLs of other sites.

The additional measures put into place to prevent voting fraud is much more than we had in the past and has helped reduce tons of cheating since it was implemented, and has not been changed.

[Ormi]

Hi Kiki,
Thanks for your answer but I'm still not convinced. Have you seen my rating now? It's only 4,56 and continously reducing... :-( Could you please send me a statistic about the votes I got this week? It would be enough to see how much poor I got during the week.
And yes, I have a suggestion maybe how you could manage this whole rating system if only registered users would have the permission to vote once. What do you think about it?
Have a nice day,
Ormi

[Ormi]

Hi Kiki,
Again about my rating, 1 week ago it started from 4,65 now it is only 4,5375, my lowest rating ever, do you still think it's only natural down fluctuation? I don't. I'm really-really disappointed you can do nothing... As I can see girl's rating who share pics on the other site have lowest rating as ever... strange, interesting. I do not share any pics on that site this month, maybe thatswhy happens what happens? I don't know but this whole situation is very irritating and makes me sad.
Have a nice day,
Ormi

[maaario]

Hi Kiki,
we must support Ormi here. We noticed the same strange effect with our contribution (Judy, Nude In Public).
While after posting the rating was for a few days around 4.66/4.67, thereafter it dropped down continuously, until now at 4.63. The other competitors are not or less affected by this downvoting.
While we were long time on 1st rank, now dropped to 2nd. I smell manipulation here.
Please have a look a it.

On a side note - while most contri's (Vienna, Nora, Valerie, Julie, Bri) are definitely public, the contri's of Zeenah and Alissa aren't. They do not show any public ... Empty stores and pools are hardly public ... why are they admitted at all in the "Nude In Public" section? Should be Free Style. Is nobody checking if a contri is in the right category?
I think for most "public" contributors it is a huge disappointed, if the top winners in these sections can get away with showing no public at all.

[Ormi]

Hi Maaario,
I absolutely agree with you. HOw can pictures be in NIP near to a swimming pool without any people? How can/could win special awards-pantyless in public a contri taken at beach or in forest with no public??? I don't understand, look at last month winners too.
Kiki, you should select, freestyle contri should not be in pantyless in public category for example.
And, my rating is now only 4,5262... and now it stopped. I think it's more than strange.
There are problems here, I hope you'll answer us soon.
Ormi

[VWSupport]

I completely agree that all of our contributors must be supported in each and every way, they are the best part about our site and these lovely ladies are what makes coming here so much fun!
Regarding scoring, at the end of each month the tech guys always go over the scoring logs with a fine toothed comb to check for anomalies that the script might have missed, however I have spoken to the team and they will be checking and triple checking over the next three days for any discrepancies and before any winners are officially announced. I apologize for any frustrations the fluctuations have caused and VW will be implementing new voting registration requirements very soon to further mitigate any cheating.

As far as contris, the general rule that the contributions department goes by is that anytime there is another person in the photo who is clothed it is considered public and can be eligible for Nude In Public, as some of our contributors are really brave and take fabulous photos in the middle of a crowded square, while others are still working up the nerve and start out small. The voters usually lean towards the more brave as they like to see how our contributors love to show off their gorgeous bodies, but it can vary month to month. The themed contests for next month will be designated into specific categories to avoid any confusion, as I do agree with you there. As long as there are people in the pantyless in public, it is considered public, however there will be all new contests as of tomorrow!

[Jbe]

I would like to toss this out for consideration... to both Nicole and Ormi.

I have been on VW for a while now and have been fans of both Nicole and Ormi. IMHO they are both beautiful women and submit some top notch contris. Yet both of them are here talking about their rating scores dropping.

So here is something to think about. It doesn't appear either one of you ladies interact with your fans. Yet you both used to on the Contri Connections- formerly the Feedback Sections- back before the crash. I know for a fact that you, Nicole, have been invited over recently cuz I invited you.

The cold hard truth, ladies, is no matter how beautiful you are it takes effort on your part to keep at the top. If you want to keep the good scores, interact with your fans. Show them you appreciate the support. You can comment in the Contri Comment section if you don't want to join in on the Forums. If it wasn't for the fans, you wouldn't be where you are. No interaction from you equals less suppport from your fan base.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

[Marilyn]

My head is spinning reading all of these comments. I am very concerned about the score manipulation and hesitant to post here. Within 24 hours my contributions here get ratings all over the board! Not the consistency it use to be. I'm not sure where to post anymore?

HOWEVER, VW has always been kind and courteous in their responses, and paid on time. They also some new requirements in place to collect awards which is a start. I agree with the comments about only letting registered people vote - then you could really track who is manipulating.

IMO I would spend any additional funds on time removing pro/stolen posts. I never remember this being a problem before the crash of VW. Any posts I was suspicious of were removed within days. What happened to that efficient system that use to be in place?

Also, Kiki has been super professional and courteous with all her responses. Very impressive customer service and shows her patience and kindness. Thank you Kiki!

[jenn]

Great post, Marilyn! Hopefully your ideas will be implemented by VW. I know I'll be much more likely to submit here if they are.

Jenn

[VWSupport]

Marilyn, just wanted to let you all know that registered voting has already been implemented earlier this month :-)
Please feel free to leave any comments or additional suggestions regarding voting registration here: http://forums.voyeurweb.com//viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4788" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you see ANY stolen content/pros please click on the "Report this contribution" button on the contri, it is in red text right below the star rating. It is very important that you provide a URL of where else the content/pro can be found, and please check the date it was published on the other site, as proof is required so no contributions are removed without reason.

Please keep the suggestions coming!

Thank you so much for the kind words, it really means a lot to me!

[contributor]

Kiki,the new voting system which allows only registered users to vote has a weak point and I am afraid certain individuals are taking advantage.My guess is that each contri generates 10-20 times less votes than before.Please confirm if I am right.This way the rating can be very easily influenced by a small number of poor votes.Here is an example-if 1000 registered users had voted for a post and the average score is 4,70 ,just 30 poor votes can drop this score to 4,5922 .I think it is possible for a single or a couple of individuals to vote 20-30 times poor for a certain post.This can be achieved using multiple accounts with different IP locations.My contri which was published today generated such multiple poor votes.Originally my score has to be in the 4,60-4,70 range(I post for a long time and I know exactly how much a post worth). My initial score however was 3,50-4,00?? for the first couple of hours.At some point my score reached 4,56 and I was to overtake the first two contris in the competition but then suddenly it dropped to 4.50 in a matter of 2 minutes.I would not like 20-30 or 50 poor votes which could be generated by a couple of individuals to determine my score.HERE IS MY SUGGESTION:Ignore the worst 100 and the best 100 votes for each contry.You can calculate the average score from the remaining votes.This way individuals who vote multiple times or ask friends to vote..etc,would not be able to influence the score

[Thinker]

Don't forget that the scores are not update with each score submission. More than likely, it is done every now and then so the frequency could be every hour. Very easy to submit 50 votes in an hour.

[contributor]

Kiki,the situation with the voting system is completely out of control at the moment.Few contributors including myself were seriously downvoted.Due to a multiple poor voting our score is about 0,15-0,25 lower than it should be.I explained in my previous post how it happens.Few examples-Nicole`s post got 4,48 and it worth at least 4.65.Marilyn`s erotic clip scored just 4,40.Potentially it had to be in the 4,70 range.I uploaded 2 contris this month-the first one is worth around 4,70 and the second 4,20-4,30.The score I got however is 4,54 and 3,98.I do not mind being overtaken by posts which are better than mine but we do not have such situation here.I suggested a simple and fair solution -exclude worst 100 and best 100 votes for each post.This way contributors who downvote others and upvote themselves will not effect the final score.Another possible solution is to turn back the old voting system and apply scripts at the end of the month